NASA-UAP-D008, Apollo 12 Medical Debriefing - Tape 12, 1969
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NASA-UAP-D008 is an audio recording of a medical debriefing conducted with the Apollo 12 crew โ Commander Charles Conrad, Command Module Pilot Richard Gordon, and Lunar Module Pilot Alan Bean โ following their 1969 mission. The debriefing, conducted by a NASA medical team in Texas, documents each astronaut's account of seeing brief flashes and streaks of light while attempting to sleep in darkness aboard the spacecraft. The crew described the phenomena as internal to vision โ appearing in one or both eyes, sometimes as pinpoints, sometimes as streaks โ and noted they could isolate which eye was affected.
The record is notable because it establishes that NASA was actively investigating this phenomenon across multiple Apollo missions, referencing similar reports from Apollo 11's Buzz Aldrin and tracing inquiry back to Mercury-era retinal photography programs. The medical team concluded the flashes were caused by cosmic ray or heavy-particle strikes on retinal cells rather than external light sources. The OCR transcription is significantly degraded, making portions of the crew's specific descriptions difficult to parse precisely. The document is relevant to the UAP record primarily as baseline evidence of NASA's systematic approach to distinguishing physiological anomalies from external phenomena during spaceflight.
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During a medical debriefing of the crew of the Apollo 12 mission, Commander Charles โPeteโ Conrad, Command Module Pilot Richard โDickโ F. Gordon, and Lunar Module Pilot Alan L. Bean describe their observations of instances of light flashes or โstreaks of lights.โ The astronauts each reported that these experiences occurred in the dark as they tried to sleep.
The NASA medical team considered whether similar phenomena reported by Apollo 11 Lunar Module Pilot Buzz Aldrin had been attributable to exposure of the retina by cosmic rays. NASA later determined that the phenomena reported by the Apollo 12 flight crew were internal to the astronautsโ vision rather than external light sources.
โฅ TRANSCRIPT
We read this paragraph in here about these quotes coronal discharges that you guys were
seeing and that completely stops us. Tell us how this came about and who talked to you
about and what you saw.
They reported it on somebody who reported it on one of the earlier plates that some guy
up like a letter to his paper or somewhere and he's just an enemy in the case of that
two things where the V8 get radioed by which could be this yardage for some places to play.
And the other one where I thought he was like, you know, he was like, he's standing up for it
to see his plate, he's going to face it.
It's nice when they're eyes closed.
Or not, you know, when they're eyes closed.
They noticed that when they were away they'd make the spacecraft look dark.
And they thought they were in the spacecraft.
But whoever this guy was, you know, that's a personally known phenomenon.
You can get this yardage from the right, from gamma rays or something.
So they had it once you think, would we hold our eyes and face the moon, you know,
when we were orbiting it because it would be more, you'd get less discharges facing the moon
than away from it.
But, you know, that's the main way to do the moon or anywhere.
It's for a night happening and it gets, you know, keep your eyes closed and your whites down there
and it's dark and you think about it.
But it happens because you can sit down and it's one eye.
It's the side of this yardage.
You can see it's both eyes.
You can really do it with one eye or the other eye.
You can see what point it is.
We have two kinds.
I guess, as far as I believe, there's right the eyeball perpendicular
or as far as there is parallel.
And we get either a flag like that or we get a streak.
And I knew the design of the bay.
They got a flag or a streak.
And I, for some reason, got a mark with my eyes.
And my right eye.
But I could tell which eye it was.
And I was not sick.
I'm trying to tell the reason you did it because his birdie's laugh was always out of that night
of the spacecraft.
I got a quick look across there and I call all the lights on the bottom.
Yeah.
I remember playing Microsoft.
I split down a minute.
They should have protected you, Dick.
They should have picked them all up.
I'm trying to say that I may try to get an earbud just because we were asked to specifically
experiment with this kind of thing.
I remember their conversation about it.
I remember their conversation about it.
They thought it was something, you know, penetrating the spacecraft.
What teachers write is the exact phenomena of all three of us.
You can see all the lights.
There's a flag out there.
Or sometimes it would be up on the street.
And I saw them in both eyes.
Either I, I can't remember.
It was one of the more phenomena of the other.
But I agree with you, the phenomenon that you're not seeing in both eyes.
It's not something external to you.
It's something that you're starting to hear.
You're coming across each other.
Apparently they know that.
Well, we've been looking for cosmic rays, you know, cosmic ray strikes and heavy particles,
heavy nuclei that go through.
You know, we started a clear back in Mercury taking photographs of the retina,
see if you could see streaks across the retina stuff.
We never could find any in there.
And so we stopped that up early in the world by the end of the fight.
Your eye is like a fancy dealer on your body.
And if it's doing anything, you're never going to see it.
If I'm going to get a guy back earlier, I'm going to see it.
It's going to get photographs of right after a circle over the body.
Well, probably what it's doing anyway, it's probably hitting just a single cell.
And yeah, that's all it had to do.
Particularly make this flash.
You know, you hit a single cell.
That's all right.
So I was looking at the M.D.C. and a handrail with a couple of them.
And one of them I lost, I don't know whether it went here, you know, right?
It's very long on a handrail.
It's about that.
It's about this.
And I just had to be looking at that.
And I'm just going to almost see him as well.
That's where I go.
He's lying there.
He's pulling your eyes.
What if they don't want to see you?
I don't want to see you.
He doesn't want to see you.
He doesn't want to see you.
He doesn't want to see you.
He doesn't believe it.
It hurts.
He doesn't stop the Earth, right?
I know.
Hey, I'm here today.
It's a great lawyer for that.
People on the Earth ask, do you see him?
They've got a plan on the weekend.
They've just been able to make him wake up at night.
They say, well, they thought of seeing you.
Close your eyes.
Those ladies come about one minute.
Let me ask you one more question about heart.
Oh, here.
Where do you live?
Where do you live?
We live in a random distribution of these parts.
Where do you live?
There's no reason to seem to be a friendly horizontal.
Okay, were these things random?
Or did they all seem to be in one direction?
Like were they always horizontal?
Or were they at random?
They could be at any kind of angle.
Does this creep slide slide on?
Or a minus 1 line?
Or a minus 1 line?
I've said I'd say that's just missing mind.
It seems to me the idea of prices
is that they were always roughly in the same place
in mind where our horizontal trees were always
If I knew where I would look at it, it would always be like a hard on all three foot, a little bit above the center.
And it always even went from right to left.
And I would hide with it.
The disc yard pieces were more important than the center.
And it would be different.
It would just like pinpoint a lightweight and close again.
Like somebody was flashing a light at you.
That's right.
Yeah, it would not be bigger like that.
Yeah, it would still be a very small lot.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's about the same for both of you.
Is that the same reaction you had, Dick?
And how the way he described it?
This was about 30 degrees or so on.
But I didn't know it was going from the right or left.
That's pretty awesome.
But they seem to appear about the same place.
No, I know.
That's not what it is.
But one of the more dominant ones that I saw were generally above, I don't.
Same one.
It was generally hot.
I don't know.
I can't include any other.
I can't remember.
I just don't remember any of the other ones.
Down on the lower part of the country.
Well, I think that Dick's telling you best enough for his eyes open.
And other things that he's centered on.
The lights on the instrument panel.
I used to notice that the most one down there had to leave a bag of a pitch black down there in the hole.
And we're making areas where the lines were open or close.
And I can lay there for, I mean, if you don't find that way, say it's for a half an hour.
And either open up or fold them and wait until you're not there for a while.
You can get one.
And then I sit there for a while and say, okay, there's a little left eye on the right eye.
I think you'll always sort it out.
But when you usually figure out when we die, it was in.
Now you know what you do.
You're supposed to be sleeping on them.
Yeah.
And there was a comment that.