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In Reply, Please Refer to
File No.
UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION
Albuquerque, New Mexico
May 8, 1964
UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECT
SOCORRO, NOW NEALCO
APRIL 24, 1964
Special Agent D. Arthur Byrnes, Jr., Federal
Bureau of Investigation, stationed at Albuquerque, New
Mexico, was at socorro, New Mexico, and at the State
qua bloo
Police
Office there on business late afternoon of
April 24, 1964.
At approximately 5:45 to 5:50 P. M., Nep Lopez,
radio operator in the Socorro County Sheriff's Office,
located about thirty feet down the hall from the State
Police Office, came into the State Police Office.
dato the stato
Mr Lopez advised M. S. Chavez, New Mexico State
Police, that he had just received a radio call from Officer
Lonnie
Zamora to come to an area about one mile southwest
of Socorro.
The call was in relation to some unknown
object which "landed and has taken off."
Agent Byrnes
finished his work in the State Police Office at Socorro
at approximately 6:00 P. M., April 24, 1964, and there-
after proceeded to the site
where Officer Zamora,
Socorro County Undersheriff Jim Luckie, Sergeant M. S.
Chavez, and Officer Ted Jordan, New Mexico State Police,
were assembled.
It may be noted that it has been the observation
of Agent Byrnes that Officer Zamora, known intimately for
approximately five years, is well regarded as a sober,
industrious, and conscientious officer and not given
to fantasy.
Officer Zamora was noted to be perfectly sober
and somewhat agitated over his experience.
Special Agent Byrnes noted four indentations
in the rough ground at the "site" of the object described
This decument contains neither recommendations
it is the property
of the FBi, and is a loan to your agency; it and/or
its contents are not to be distributed outside your
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UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECT
by Officer Zamora.
These depressions appeared regular
in shape, approximately sixteen by six inches rectangular.
Each depression seemed to have been made by an object
going into the earth at an angle from a center line.
Each
depression was approximately two inches deep and pushed
some earth to the far side.
Inside the four depressions were three burned
patches of clumps of grass.
Other clumps of grass in the
same area appeared not to be disturbed. One burned area
was outside the four depressions.
There were three circular marks in the earth
which were smooth, approximately four inches in diameter
and penetrated in
the sandy earth approximately one-eighth
of an inch as if a jar lid had gently been pushed into
the sand.
No other person was noted in the area the night
of April 24, 1964. No other objects were noted in the
area possibly connected with the incident related by
Officer Zamora.
So far as could be noted, there were no houses
or inhabited dwellings in the area
or in sight of the area.
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In Reply, Please Refer to
File No.
UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION
Albuquerque, New Mexico
May 8, 1964
UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECT
SOCORRO, NEW BALCO
APRIL 24, 1964
Special Agent D. Arthur Byrnes, Jrโข, Federal
Bureau of Investigation, stationed at Albuquerque, New
Mexico, was at socorro, New Mexico, and at the state
Police
Office there on business late afternoon of
April 24, 1964โข
At approximately 5:45 to 5:50 P. M., Nep Lopez,
radio operator in the Socorro County Sheriff's Office,
located about thirty feet down the hall from the State
Police Office, came into the State Police Office.
Mr Lopez advised M. S. Chavez, New Mexico State
police, that he had just received a radio call from officer
Zamora to come to an area about one mile southwest
of Socorro. The call wes in relation to some uninown
object which "landed and has taken off." Agent Byrnes
finished his work in the State Police Office at Socorro
and beate
M. S.
were assembled.
It may be noted that it has been the observation
of Agent Byrnes that Officer Zanora, known intimately for
approximately five years, is well regarded as a sober,
industrious, and conscientious officer and not given
to fantasy.
Officer Zamora was noted to be perfectly sober
and somewhat agitated over his experience.
Special Agent Byrnes noted four indentations
in the rough ground at the "site" of the object described
This decument centains neither recommendatiens
nor conclusions of any kind.
It is the property
of the FBi, and is a loan to your agency: it andler
its contents are not to be distributed outside your
agency.
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UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECT
by Officer Zamora.
These depressions appeared regular
in shape, approximately sixteen by six inches rectangular.
Each depression seemed to have been made by an object
going into the earth at an angle from a center line. Each
depression was approximately two inches deep and pushed
some earth to the far side.
Inside the four depressions were three burned
patches of clumps of grass. Other clumps of grass in the
sane area appeared not to be disturbed. One burned area
was outside the fow depressions.
There were three circular marks in the earth
which were smooth, approximately four inches in diameter
and penetrated in
the sandy earth approximately one-eighth
of an inch as if a jar lid had gently been pushed into
the sand.
No other person was noted in the area the night
of April 24, 1964. No other objects were noted in the
area possibly connected with the incident related by
Officer Zamora.
So far as could be noted, there were no houses
or inhabited dwellings in the area or in sight of the area.
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In Reply, Please Refer to
File No.
UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION
Albuguergue,
New Mozico
ay 8, 1964
UNIDENTIFIED FIXING OBJECT
SOCORRO, NSV MAXECO
APRIL 24, 2964
Special Agent D. Arthur Byrnes, Jr., Federal
Bureau of Investigation, stationed at Albuquerque, New
Mexico, was at Socorro,
Now Menico, and at the stato
Office there on businoss late afternoon of
April 24, 1964.
At approximately 5:45 to 5:50 P. M., Nep ะพัะตยป,
radio oporator in the Socorro County Sheriff's Office,
located about thirty feet dom the hall from the State
Police Office, cano into the State Polico offico.
lt. Lopez advised 1. S. Chavez, New Mexico State
polico, that he had just received a radio call fron Officer
Lonale
Zanoza to come to an area about one mile soutiwest
of Socozzo.
The call was in relation to some uninow
object which "landed and has talen off." Agent Byrnes
finishod his vork in the State Police Office at Socorzo
at approximatoly 6:00 P. M., April 24, 1960, and there-
after proceeded to the site wiere Officer Zamora,
Socorro County Undersheriff Jim Luckie, Sergeant M. S.
Chavez, and Officer Ted Jordan, New Mexico State Police,
wore assoubled.
It may be noted that it has been the observation
of Agont Byznen that Officer Zanora, known intimately for
approximatoly five yoars, in well regarded as a sober,
industzious, and conscientious officer and not given
to fantasy.
2iceะณ Zamore was noced to be persectly sober
and sonawhat agitated over his experience.
Spocial Agent Byrnos noted tow indentations
in the rough ground at the "site" of the objeet described
This document contains neither recommendations
ner conclusions of any kind. I is the property
af the FBi, and is a loan to your agency; it and/or
its contents are not to be distributed eutside your
agency.
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UNEDRNEIFIED FLYING OBABCT
These depressions appeared regular
in shapo, approximately sixteen by six inches sootangular.
Bach deproseion seened to have boon made by an object
going into the earth at an angle from a center line. Bach
depression was approximately two inches deep and pushed
sone carth to the far side.
Inside the fow depressions were three burned
sane area appoared not to bo disturbed. One burnod aron
was outside the four depressions.
There were threo cirouler maks in the enth
which weze snooth, approximataly four inches in dieter
and penotrated in
the sandy ourth approzimately one-eighth
of an inch an if a jar lid had gently been pushed into
the sand.
No other person was noted in tho area the night
of April 24, 1964.
No other objects were noted in the
aros possibly connected with the incident related by
officor Zamora.
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In Reply, Please Refer to
File No.
UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION
Albuquerque, New Mexico
May 8, 1964
UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECT
SOCORRO, NEW MEXICO
APRIL 24, 1964
The following data were obtained from Officer
Lonnie Zamora, Police Department, Socorro, New Mexico,
the night of April 24, 1964, and early morning, April 25,
1964, as related by Officer Zamora.
Lonnie Zamora, 606 Reservoir Street, Socorro,
New Mexico, 835-1134, Officer Socorro Police Department
about five years, office phone 835-0941, now on 2:00 P. M.
to 10:00 P. M. shift.
About 5:45 P. M., April 24, 1964, while in
Socorro 2 Police Car (1964 Pontiac white) started to chase
a car due south from west side of Courthouse. Car was
apparently speeding, and was about three blocks in front.
At point on Old Rodeo Street, (extension of Park Street
south), near George Morillo residence (about one-half mile
south of Spring Street). The chased car was going straight
ahead toward rodeo grounds. Car chased was a new black
Chevrolet, (it might have been Floyd Reynolds' boy, Vivian,
about 17). Chased car still about three blocks ahead.
This document contains neither recommendations
nor conclusions of any kind.
it is the preperty
of the FBI, and is a loan to your agency; it and/er
its contents are not to be distributed outside your
agency.
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UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECT
Lonnie alone.
At this time heard a roar and saw a flame in the
sky to the southwest some distance away--possibly a half
mile or a mile. Came to mind that a dynamite shack in that
area had blown up. Decided to abandon the chase, and to
check on the flame. The flame was bluish and sort of orange
too. Could not tell size of flame. Sort of motionless
flame, slowly descending. Was still driving the police car
and could not pay too much attention to the flame. It was
a narrow type of flame. It was like a "stream down"-- a
funnel type--narrower at top than at bottom. Flame possibly
three degrees or so in width--not wide. The flame was
possibly a mile south of Socorro, in isolated area.
The flame about twice as wide at bottom as top,
and about four times as high as top was wide. Did not
notice any object at top, did not note if top of flame was
level. Sun was to west and did not help vision. Had green
sun glasses over prescription glasses.
Could not
see bottom of flame because it was behind the hill.
No smoke noted. Noted some "commotion" at bottom--
dust? Possibly from windy day--wind was blowing hard. Clear
sunny sky otherwise--just a few clouds scattered over area.
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UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECT
Noise was a roar, not a blast. Not like a jet.
Changed from high frequency to low frequency and then
stopped. Roar lasted possibly ten seconds--was going towards
it at that time on the rough gravel road. Saw flame about
as long as heard the sound. Flame same color as best as
recall. Sound distinctly from high to low until it disappeared.
Both car windows were down. No other spectators noted--no
traffic except the car in front--and car in front might have
heard it but possibly did not see it because car in front
was too close to hill in front, to see the flame.
After the roar and flame, did not note anything,
while going up the somewhat steep rough hill toward the
flame site. Got up about half way first time, wheels started
skidding, roar still going on, had to back down and try twice
again before made the hill. Hill about sixty feet long, fairly
steep and with loose gravel and rock. While beginning third
time, noise and flame not noted.
After got to top, traveled slowly on the gravel
road westwardly. Noted nothing for awhile, for possibly
ten or fifteen seconds, went slow, looking around for the
dynamite shack--did not recall exactly where the dynamite
shack was.
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UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECT
Suddenly noted a shiny type object to south
about 150 to 200 yards. It was off the road. At first
glance, stopped. It looked, at first, like a car turned
upside down. Thought some kids might have turned over.
Saw two people in white coveralls very close to the object.
One of these persons seemed to turn and look straight at
my car and seemed startled--seemed to quickly jump somewhat.
When I first saw the object, (when I thought it
might be a car), I saw what appeared to be two legs of
some type from the object to the ground. At the time, I
didn't pay much attention to what it was--I thought it was
an accident--I saw the two persons. I didn't pay attention
to the two "legs?". The two "legs" were at the bottom
of the object, slanted outwards to the ground. The object
might have been about thee and a half feet from the ground
at that time. I just glanced at it.
At this time I started moving my car towards them
quickly, with idea to help. Had stopped about only a
couple seconds. Object was like aluminum--it was whitish
against the mesa background, but not chrome. Seemed like
in shape and I at first glance took it to be an
overturned white car. Car appeared turned up like standing
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UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECT
on radiator or on trunk, at this first glance.
The only time I saw these two persons was when I
had stopped, for possibly two seconds or so, to glance at
the object. I don't recall noting any particular shape
or possibly any hats or headgear. These persons appeared
normal in shape--but possibly they were small adults or
large kids.
Then paid attention to road while drove towards scene.
Radioed to sheriff's office, "Socorro 2 to Socorro, possible
10-44 (accident); I'll be 10-6 (busy) out of the car checking
the car down in the arroyo."
Stopped car, was still talking on radio, started
to get out, mike fell down, reached back to put up mike,
then replaced radio mike in slot, got out of car and turned
to go down to where knew the object (car) was.
As my mike fell, I got out of car, at scene area,
I heard about two or three loud "thumps," like someone
possibly hammering or shutting a door or doors hard. These
"thumps" were possibly a second or less apart. This was
just before the roar. The persons were not seen when I got
up to the scene area.
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UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECT
Hardly turned around from car when heard roar,
(was not exactly a blast), very loud roar--at that close
was real loud. Not like a jet--knows what jets sound like.
Started low frequency quickly, then roar rose in frequency
(higher tone) and in loudness--from loud to very loud. At
same time as roar saw flame. Flame was under the object.
Object was starting to go straight up--slowly up. Object
slowly rose straight up. Flame was light blue and at bottom
was sort of orange color. From this angle, saw what might
be the side of object (not end, as first noted). Difficult
to describe flame. Thought, from roar, it might blow up.
Flame might have come from underside of object, at middle,
possibly a four feet area-very rough guess. Can not
describe flame further except blue and orange. No smoke,
except dust in immediate area.
As soon as saw flame and heard roar, turned away,
ran away from object but did turn head several times towards
object. Bumped leg on car--back fender area. Car facing
southwest. Glasses fell to ground, left them there. Ran
to north--car between him and object.
Object was
in shape. It was smooth--no
windows or doors. As roar started, it was still on or near
ground. Noted red lettering of some type, like
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UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECT
Insignia was about two and one-half feet high and about
two feet wide, guess. Was in middle of object, like
โข Object still like aluminum-white.
After fell by car and glasses fell off, kept
running to north with car between me and object. Glanced
back couple of times. Noted object to rise to about level
of car, about twenty to twenty-five feet, guess--took I
guess about six seconds when object started to rise and I
glanced back. I ran I guess about half way to where I
ducked down--about fifty feet from the car is where I ducked
down, just over edge of hill. I guess I had run about
twenty-five feet when I glanced back and saw the object about
level with the car and it appeared about directly over the
place where it rose from.
I was still running and I jumped just over the
hill--I stopped because I did not hear the roar. I was
scared of the roar, and I had planned to continue running
down the hill. I turned around toward the object and at
same time put my head towards ground, covering my face with
my arms. Being that there was no roar, I looked up, and I
saw the object going away from me, in a southwest direction.
When the roar stopped, heard a sharp tone whine from high
tone to low tone. At end of roar was this whine and the
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UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECT
whine lasted maybe a second. Then there was complete
silence about the object. That's when I lifted up my head
and saw the object going away from me. It did not come
any closer to me. It appeared to go in a straight line
and at same height--possibly ten to fifteen feet from ground,
and it cleared the dynamite shack by about three feet. Shack
about eight feet high. Object was traveling very fast. It
seemed to rise up and take off immediately across countryโข
I ran back to my car and as I ran back, I kept an eye on the
object. I picked up my glasses, (I left the sunglasses on
the ground), got into the car, and radioed to Nep Lopez,
radio operator, to "look out the window, to see if you could
see an object." He asked, "What is it?" I answered, "It
100ks like a balloon." I don't know if he saw it. If Nep
looked out his window, which faces north, he couldn't have
seen it. I did not tell him at the moment which window to
look out of.
As I was calling Nep, I could still see the object.
The object seemed to lift up slowly, and to "get small" in
the distance very fast. It seemed to just clear the Box
Canyon or Six Mile Canyon Mountain. It disappeared as it
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UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECT
went over the mountain. It had no flame whatsoever as it
was traveling over the ground, and no smoke or noise.
Can't tell how long saw object second time (the
"close" time), possibly twenty seconds--just a guess--from
time got out of car, glanced at object, ran from object,
jumped over edge of hill, then got back to car and radioed
as object disappeared.
Just before Sergeant Chavez got to scene, I got
my pen and drew a picture of the insignia on the object.
Feeling in good health. Last drink--two or three
beers--was over a month ago. Noted no odors. Noted no
sounds other than described. Gave directions to Nep Lopez
at radio and to Sergeant M. S. Chavez to get there. Went
down to where the object had been and I noted the brush was
burning in several places. At that time, I heard Sergeant
Chaves, (New Mexico State Police at Socorro), calling me
on radio for my location, and I returned to my car, told
him he was "looking at me." Then Sergeant Chavez came up,
asked me what the trouble was, because I was sweating and
he told me I was white, very pale. I asked the Sergeant
to see what I saw, and that was the burning brush. Then
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UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECT
Sergeant Chavez and I went to the spot, and Sergeant
Chavez pointed out the tracks.
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In Reply, Please Refer to
File No.
UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION
Albuguerque,
New Mexico
May 8, 1964
UNIDENFIPIED FLYING OBJSCT
SOCORRO, NEW MEXICO
APRIL 24, 1964
The following data vere obtained fron officer
Lonnie Zanora, Police Department, Socorro, New Mexico,
the night of April 24, 1964, and early morning, April 25,
1966, as zelated by officon Zanora.
Lonnie Zanora, 606 Reborvoir Street, Socorzo,
New Mexico, 835-1134, OffIcer Socorzo Police Department
about five years, office phone 835-0941, now on 2:00 โฝ. M.
to 10:00 P. M. shift.
About 5:45 P. M., April 24, 1964, while sa
Socorzo 2 Police Car (1964 Pontiac white) started to chase
a car due south from west side of Courthouse. Car was
apparontly speeding, and was about three block in front.
At point on Old Rodeo Street, (extension of Park Street
south), noar Goorge Morillo residence (about one-half mile
south
of Spring Street). The chased car was going straight
ahead tovard rodeo grounds. Car chased was a now black
Chevrolet, (it might have been Floyd Reynolds boy, Vivian,
about 17). Chased car still about three blocks ahead.
This document contains neither recommendations
nor conclusions of any kind.
it is the property
of the FBI, and is a loan to your agency; it and/or
its contents are not to be distributed outside your
agency.
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UNIDENIZEIED FLYING OBJSCT
Lonnie alone.
At this time houd a zoar and saw a flane in the
sly to the southwest sono distance away--possibly a hale
nile on a mile. Came to mind that a dynuite shack in that
aron had blown up. Decided to abandon the chase, and to
chock on the flane. The flane was bluish and sort of orange
too. Could not tell size of flane. Sort of motionless
#lane, slowly descending. Vas still driving the police car
and could not pay too much attention to the flame. It was
a narrow type of flame. It wes lile a "strean down"- a
funnel typo--narzover at top than at botton. Plane possibly
thres degreos or so in width--not wide. The flano was
possibly a nile south of Socorro, in isolated area.
The flane about twice as wide at bottom as top,
and about four tines as high an top was wide. Did not
notice an
y object at top, did not note if top of flane was
Jovel. Bun was to west and did not help vision. Had green
mun glamos over patersation glasses
Could not
sea botton of flane because it was behind the hill.
No snole notod. Noted some "coumotion" at botton-
dust? Possibly from windy day-wind was blowing hard. Clear
sunny sky otherwise-just a few clouds scattered over area.
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Noise was a roar, not a blast. Not 11ko a jet.
Changed tron high trequency to low frequency and then
stopped. Roar lasted possibly ten seconds--was going towards
it at that time on
the rough gravel road. Sow 2lane about
as long as heard the sound. Plane sane color as bost an
recall. Sound distinctly from high to low until it disappeared.
Both oar windows were down. No other spectators noted--no
traffic except the ear in tront--and car in front night have
hoard it but possibly did not see it because cur in front
was too close to hill in front, to see the flane.
After the roar and flame, did not note anything,
while going up the sonerhat sceep rough hill toward the
flane site. Got up about half way first tine, whole started
skidding, roar still going on, had to back down and try twice
again before made the hill, l1l] about sixty feat long, fairly
steep and with loose gravel and rock. While beginning third
time, noise and flene not noted.
After got to top, traveled slowly ou the aravul
road westwardly. Noted nothing for awhile, for possibly
ten on fifteen seconds, wont plow, looking wround for the
dynanite shack--did not recall exactly where the dynanite
shack was:
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UNIDENTE LED PLYING OBJECT
Suddenly noted a shiny type object to south
about 150 to 200 yards. It was off the road.
At 212st
glance, stopped. It looled, at first, like a caz turned
upside dow. Thought sone kids night have turned over.
Saw two people in white coveralls very close to the object.
One of those persone sooned to turn and look straight at
my car and seened startled-stenod to quickly jump somewhat.
When I firet saw the object, (when I thought it
might be a oar), I saw what appeared to be two legs of
soute type fron the object to the ground. At the time, 1
didate pay much attention to what it was--I thought it was
an accident--I saw the two porsons. 1 didn't pay attention
to the two "legs?".
The two "logs" were at the botton
of the object, slanted outwerds to the ground. The object
might have boon about thee and a half feet fron the ground
at that time. I just glanoed at it.
At this time I started moving ny car towards them
quickly, with idea to help. lind stopped about only a
couple seconds.
Object was 11k0 aluntnum--it was whitish
against the nees background, but not chrone, Seemed like
'(In shape and 1 at kirut glance took it to to an
ovorturnod white car. Car appeared turnod up like standing
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on radiator or on trunk, at this firet glance.
The only tine I saw these two persons was when I.
had stoppod, for possibly two seconde or so, to glance at
the object. I don't recall noting any particular shape
oz possibly any hate or headgear. Those persons appeared
noral in shapo-but possibly they were small adults ox
lango kids.
Then paid attention to road while drove towards scane.
Radiood to sheriff's offico, "Socorso & to Socorro, possiblo
10-46 (accident); I'13 be 30-6 (busy) out of the car checking
the car down in the arroyo."
Stopped car, was still talking on radio, started
to set out, mile fell down, zonched backs to put up nilse,
then replacod radio mile fa slot, got out of car and turned
to so dow to where knew the object (car) was.
An my mike fell, I got out of car, at soone area,
I heard about two or three loud "thumps," lie soneone
possibly humoring or shutting & door or doors ha. These
"Chunpa" vere possibly a second or loss apart. This wan
just before the zoar. Tha pezsons wore not seon when I got
up to the scene area.
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UNDENELF IND FLYING OBJRCT
Hardly turned around fron car when heard roar,
(was not exactly a blast), very loud roar-at that close
was roal loud. Not like a jet--lows what jets nound like.
Started lou frequency quickly, then roar robe in frequency
(higher tone) and in loudness--fron loud to vezy loud. At
sane timo as roar saw flano, Flame was under the object.
Object was starting to go straight up-slowly up. Object
slowly rose straight up. Plane was light blue and at bottom
was sort of orange color. Pron this angle, saw what night
be the side of object (not end, as first noted). D1ยฃf1cult
to describe flane. Thought, fron roar, it might blow up.
Flame might have come fron underside of object, at middle,
possibly a fow feet aren--very rough guess. Can not
deseribe flane further except blue and orange. No smole,
except dust in inmodiate area.
As soOn aS saw flane and heard roar, turnod away,
zan avny from object but did turn hoad several times towards
object. Bumped leg on car--back fender area. Car facing
southwest. Glasses fell to ground, left them there. Ban
to north--can between him and object.
Object was
in shape. It was snooth--no
windows or doors. As roar started, it was still on or near
ground. Noted red lettering of some type, like
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UNIDENTIEIED FLYING OBJECT
Insignia was about two and one-half feet high and about
two foot wide, guess.
Was ta aiddle of object, 11l0
โข Object still like alumina-white.
After fell by car and glasses fell off, kept
running to north with car betwoon me and object. Glanced
back couple of times. Noted object to rise to about level
of car, about twenty to twenty-five feet, guess--took I
guess about siz socinde when object started to zine and I
ginaced back. I ran I guess about half way to whore I
ducked down--about fifty foot tron the car is where I dueled
down, just over edge of hill. I guoss I had run about
twenty-five feet when I glanced back and saw the object about
lovel with the car and it appeared about dizoctly over the
place where it rose from.
I was still zuming and I jumped just over the
hill--] stopped because I did not hear the roar. I was
scared of the ross, and I had planned to continue zunntag
down the hill, I turned around toward the object and at
sane tine put my head tovards ground, covering my face with
my arms. Being that there was no roar, I looked up, and I
saw the object going any fron no, in a southwest direction.
When the roar stopped, heard a sharp tone whine fron high
tone to low tone. At end of roar was this whine and the
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whine lasted maybe a second. Thon there was complate
silence about the object. That's when I lifted up my head
and saw the object going away from me. It did not cone:
any closer tone. It appoazed to go in a straight line
and at sine height--possibly ten to fifteen feot fron ground,
and it clered the dynanite shack by about throo foot. Shack
about eight feet high. Objoct was traveling vory fast.
It
seened to rise up and tale off immediately across coutzy.
I zan baok to my car and an I ran back, I lept an oye on the
object. I picked up ny glasses, (I left the sunglasses on
the ground), sot into the car, and radioed to Nep Lopes,
radio operator, to "lools out the window, to son if you could
soo an object." He askod, "What is 1t?" I newered, "Iโฌ
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like a balloon." I don't know if he sew it. I8 Nep
loosed out his window, which faces north, he couldn't have
seon it. I did not tell him at
the moment which window to
looks out of.
As I was calling Nep, I could still see the object.
The object seoned to 112t up slowly, and to "get ena1]" in
the distanco vory fast. It seoned to just clear the Bos
Canyon or Six Mle Canyon Mountain.
It disappeared as it
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went over the mountain. It had no flane whatsoover as it
was traveling over the ground, nad no smole or noise.
Can't tell how long saw object second time (the
"close" tine), possibly twenty seconds--just a guess-tron:
time got out of car, glanced at object, ran from object,
jumpod over edge of hill, then got back to car nad radioed
as object disappeared.
Just befoze Sergeant Chaven got to scene, I got
my pon and drew a picture of the insignia on the object.
Feeling in good health. last drink -two or three
beers--was over a month ago. Noted no odore. Noted no
sounds other than deseribed. Gave directions to Nep Lopen
at radio and to Sergeant M. S. Chavez to set there. Went
down to where the object had boen and I noted the brush was
burning in several places. At that timo, I hoard Sergeant
Chaves, (jew Maxico State Polico at Socorzo), calling me
on radio for my location, and 1 returned to uy car, told
him he was "looking at ne." Then Sergeant Chavez cane up,
asied ne what the trouble was, because I was swoating and
he told me I wan white, very pale, I asked the Sergeant
to soo what I saw, and that was the burning brush. Then
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Sergeant Chavez and I went to the spot, and Sergeant
Chavez pointed out the tracks.
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In Reply, Please Refer to
File No.
UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION
Albuquerque, New Mexico
May 8, 1964
UNIDENTIFIED FLZING OBJECT
SOCORRO, NEW MEXICO
APRIL 24, 1964
The following data were obtained from Officer
Lonnie Zanora, Police Department, Socorro, New Mexico,
the night of April 24, 1964, and early morning, April 25,
1964, as related by 0f2icer Zamora.
Lonnie Zamora, 606 Reservoir Street, Socorzo,
New Mexico, 835-1134, Officer Socorro Police Department
about five years, office phone 835-0941, now on 3:00 P. M.
to 10:00 P. M. shift.
About 5:45 P. M., April 24, 1964, while in
Socorro 2 Police Car (1964 Pontiac white) started to chase
a car due south from west side of Courthouse. Car was
apparently speeding, and was about three blocks in front.
At point on Old Rodeo Street, (extension of Park Street
south), near George Morillo residence (about one-half mile
south of Spring Street). The chased car was going straight
ahead toward rodeo grounds. Car chased was a new black
Chevrolet, (it might have been Floyd Reynolds' boy, Vivian,
about 17). Chased car still about three blocks ahead.
This document contains neither recommendations
nor conclusions of any kind.
it is the property
of the FBI, and is a loan to your agency; it and/or
its contents are not to be distributed outside your
agency.
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Lonie alone.
At this time heard a zoar and saw a flame in the
sky to the southwest some distance away--possibly a hale
mile or a mile. Cano to mind that a dynamite shack in that
area had blown up. Decided to abandon the chase, and to
check on the flane. The flane was bluish and sort of orange
too. Could not tell size of flane. Sort of motionless
flane, slowly descending. Wan still driving the police car
and could not pay too much attention to the flane. It was
a nazzou type of flane. It was like a "stream down"- a
funnel type--narzover at top than at botton. Plane possibly
throe degrees or so in width--not wide. The flame was
possibly a mile south of Socorro, in isolated area.
The flane about twice as wide at bottom as top,
and about four times as high as top was wide. Did not
notice any object at top, did not note if top of flane was
level. Sun was to west and did not help vision. Had green
Could not
see botton of flame because it was behind the hill.
No snoke noted. Noted sove "comotion" at bottou-
dust? Poseibly from windy day-wind was blowing hard. Clear
sunny sky otherwiso--just a few clouds scattered ovor area.
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Noise was a roar, not a blast. Not 11le a jet.
Changed fron high trequency to low frequency and then
stopped.
Roar lasted possibly ten seconds--wus going towarde
it at that time on the rough gravel road. Baw flame about
as long as heard the sound. Flane same color as best as
200R12, Sound distinctly fron high to low until it disappeared.
Both car windows wexe dow.
No other spectators noted--no
traffic except the car in frout--and car in front might have
heard it but possibly did not see it because caz in front
was too close to hill in front, to see the flano.
After the roar and flane, did not note anything,
while going up the sonewhat stop rough hill, tovard the
flane site. Got up about half way first time, whoals started
skidding, roar still godag on, had to back down and try twice
again before made the hill, 11ll about sixty feet long, fairly
steep and with loose gravel and rock. While begiming third
timo, nosse and flane not noted.
After got to top, traveled slowly on the gravel
road westwardly. Noted nothing for awhile, for possibly
ten or
lifteon soconds, went slot, looking around for the
dynamite shack--did not recall exactly where the dynanite
shack was.
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Suddenly noted a shiny type object to south
about 150 to 200 yards. It was off the road. At first
Glance, stopped. It looked, at first, 11ke a can turned
upside dow. Thought sone lids might have turned over.
Saw two people in white coveralls very close to the object.
One of those persons seened to turn and look straight at
ny car and sooned startled--seened to quickly jump sonowhat.
When I first saw the object, (when I thought it
might be a car), I saw what appeared to be two legs of
some type from the object to the ground. At the time, I
didn't pay much attention to what it was--I thought it was
an accident--I saw the two persons. I dida't pay attention
to the two "Jegs?". The two "legs" were at the botton
of the object, slanted outwards to the ground. The object
might have been about thee and a half feet fron the ground
at that time. I just glanced as it.
At this time I started moving my car towards them
quickly, with idea to help. Had stopped about only &
couple seconds. Object was like ahminus--it was whitish
against the mesa background, but not chrone. Seemed like
in shape and I at first glance took it to be an
overturned white car. Car appeared turned up like stending
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on radiator on on trunk, at this first glance.
The ouly time I saw these two persons was when I
had topped, for possibly two seconde or so, to glance at
the object. I don't recall noting any particular shape
or possibly any hate or headgear. These persons appeared
normal in shape--but possibly they were small adults or
Large kids.
Then paid attention to road while drove tovards scene.
Radioed to sheriff's office, "Socorto 3 to SocorTo, possible
10-44 (accident); I']] be 10-6 (bury) out of the car checking
the car down in the arroyo."
Stopped car, was st111 talking on radio, started
to got out, nile fell down, reached back to put up mile,
then replaced radio mile in slot, got out of car and turned
to go down to where knew the object (car) was.
As wy mile fell, I got out of car, at scene area,
I heard about two or three loud "thumps," like someone
possibly hamoring or shutting a door or doors hard. These
"thumps" vere possibly a socond or less apart. This was
just before the roar. The persons were not seen when I got
up to the scone area.
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Hardly turned around from car when heard roar,
(was not oxactly a blast), very loud roar--at that close
was zeal loud.
Not l1lse a jet-lnows what jets sound Jile.
Started low frequency quickly, then roar zone in frequency
(higher tone) and in loudness--fron loud to vory loud. At
sane time as roar saw flane. Plane was under the object.
object was starting to go straight up--slowly up. Object
slowly rose straight up. Plane was light blue and at bottom
was sort of orange color. Pron this angle, saw what night
be the side of object (not end, as firet notod). Dizzicult
to describe flane. Thought, fron roar, it might blow up.
Flame might have cous tron underside of object, at middle,
possibly a four feet area-vory rough guess. Can not
describe line further encept blue and orange. No smole,
except dust
immediate azes.
As soon an saw lone and heard roar, turned away,
zan avay fron object but did turn head several times towards
object. Bumped leg on caz--bick fender area. Car tacing
southwest. Classes fell to ground, left then there. Ran
to north--car between him and objeet.
Object was
in shape. It was snooth--no
windows or doors. As roor started, it was still on or neur
ground. Noted red lettering of none type, like
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Insignia was about two and one-half feet high and about
two foot wide, guess. Was in middle of object, 11le
โข object still like alumina-white.
After tell by can and glasses fell off, lept
running to north with car botween me and object. Glanced
back couple of times. Noted object to zise to about level
of car, about twenty to twenty-five feet, guess--took I
guess about six seconds when object started to zise and 1
glanced back. I ran I guess about half way to where 1
duched down--about fifty feet trou
the car is where 1 duelad
down, just over edge of hill. I guess I lnd zun about
twenty-five feet when I glanced back and saw. the object about
lovel with the car and it appeared about directly over the
place where it zose fron.
I was still zuming and I jumped just over the
h11]--] stopped because I did not hear the row. I was
scared of the roar, and I had planned to continue running
down the hill. I turned around toward the object and at
sane tine put my head towards ground, covering my face with
my arus. Being that there was no roar, I looled up, and I
saw the objoot going away fron no, in a southwest direction.
When the roar stopped, heard a sharp tone whine fron high
tone to low tone. At end of roar was this whine and the
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whino lasted maybe a second. Then there was complete
silence about the object. That's when I lifted up my head
and saw the object going avay fron me. It did not come,
any closer to ne. It appeared to go in a straight line
and at sane boight--possibly ten to fifteen feet fro ground,
and it cleared the dynanite shack by about three feet. Bhack
about eight feet high. Objoot was traveling very fast. It
seened to zise up and taise off immediately across country.
I ran back to my car and as I ran back, I kept an eye on the
object.
I picked up uy glasses, (1 left the sunglasses on
the ground), got into the car, and radioed to Nep Lopez,
radio operator, to "look out the window, to see if you could
sea an object." He askod, "Whnt is 1t?" I answered, "It
100ks like a balloon." ] don't lwow 11 ho saw it. Il Nep
looled out his window, which faces north, he couldn't have
soon it.
I did not tell him at the monent which window to
look out of.
I was calling Nep, I could still see the object.
The object seoned to lift up slowly, and to "get small" in
tho distance very fast. It seemed to just clear the Box
Canyon or Six Mile Canyon Mountain, It disappenred as it
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went over the mountain. It had no flame whatsoever as it
was traveling over the ground, and no snoke or noise.
Can't tell how long saw objeet second time (the
"elose" tine), possibly twenty seconds--just a guess--from
tine got out of car, glanced at objeet, ran from object,
jumped over edge of hill, then got back to car and, radioed
as objoct disappeared.
Just before Sergeant Chavez got to scene, I got
my pen and drew a picture of the insiguia on the object.
Peeling in good health. Last drint-two or three
beers-was over a month ago. Noted no odors. Noted no
sounds other than described. Gave directions to Nep Lopes
at radio and to Sergeant M. B. Chavez to got there. Went
down to where the object had been and I noted the brush was
burning ta sevoral places. At that tine, I heard Sergeant
Chaves, (low Maxico State Police at Socorro), calling me
on radio for my location, and I returnad to ny car, told
him he was "looking at no." Then Sergeant Chavez came up,
asised no what the trouble was, because I was swoating and
ho told ne I was white, very pale. I asked the Sergeant
to see what I saw, and that was the burning brush. Then
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Sergeant Chavez and I went to the spot, and Sergeant
Chavez pointed out the traci.
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