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DECLASSIFIED
Authority:
NND 90986
IN REPLY
REFER TO:
HEADQUARTERS
AIR DEFENSE COMMAND
MITCHEL FIELD, NEW YORK
12 September 1947
SUBJECT: Unidentified Flying Objeot
(Interview - Alpheus 0. Powell)
SUMMARY OF INPORMATION:
The following information was received 12 August 1947 from Mr.
Alpheus 0. Powell, 28 Redwood Road, New Hyde Park, Long Island, relative
to the sighting of a possible flying dise 4 August 1947•
On 4 August 1947, Mr Powell, an Airlines Captain with Pan American
Airways, Inc., was the first pilot of a Constellation type airoraft on a
flight from Gander, Newfoundland, to La Guardia Pield, New Tork. Mr. Powell
took over the aircraft at Gander, Newfoundland and departed at approximately
1230 P.M., Eastern Daylight Saving Time for La Guardia Fleld, New York. At
1600 P.M., at a position approxinately midway between the Everett (lass) Pan
Marker and the Bedford Radio Beacon (Everett is 3 miles NW of Boston, Mass..
and Bedford is 15 miles NW of the same oity) both Nr Powell and Mr W. Thite,
navigator on this trip, sighted unidentifiable flying objeets. To the beat
of Mr. Powell's Inowledge, the following weather conditions existed at that
times Visibility was good; cloud coverage was from 6-8/10ths, with tops at
10,000 feet; end the wind at the 8,000 foot level was estimated as being
270/25 miles per hour, The aircraft was at 8,000 feet; airspeed 265 mph:
and the course was 244 degrees, magnetic.
Mr White, who was sitting in the co-pilots seat (the right side of
the cockpit) first called Mr. Powell'a attention to a bright orange objeot,.
which was on the right side of the plane, and slightly below the level of the
aireraft. Mr Powell was unable to see the object, as he had no visibility to
the right and down, from his position. Mr Powell immediately Glanced out his
side window and noticed, at a 45º angle to the loft, and identified flying
It was about one mile away at an altitude of approximately 7,800
feet.
Mr Powell banked to obtain a better view of the object, The object
was under observation for approximately 30 seconds, and during this time was
viewed by Mr Powell, Mr Powell described the object as being about the length
of a P-40 fuselage, blunt at both ends, eylindrical in shape, and having a
bright orange hue. Mr Powell stated that the object had a definite shape, and
that there was no suggestion of gaseous dissipation as there would be if the
orange color were the exhaust from a rocket,
or a jet airoraft. Mr Powell
estimated the course of the objeet to be 200º magnetic, and that the objeet
was travelling at approximately 160 mph. Mr Powell lost sight of the object,
when a cloud oame between the aircraft and the object. The pursuit of the
object was not continued, inasmuch an it would have necessitated a departure
from the established airways.
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IN REPLY
REFER TO:
HEADQUARTERS
AIR DEFENSE COMMAND
MITCHEL FIELD, NEW YORK
15 September 1947
SUBJECT:
Unidentified Flying Objects
(Interview - Walter I. Whito)
SUMMARY OR INPORMATION:
The following information relative to the sighting of a possible
flying diso 4 August 1947, was recoived 10 September 1947 from Mr. Walter
I. White, 19-57 79th Street, Jackson Heights, New Tork.
On 4 August 1947, Mr. White, Pan American Airways Ino., wes the
navigator of a Constellation type airoraft on a flight from Gander, New-
foundland to La Guardia Field, New York. At 1600, at a position approxi-
mately 10 miles NT of Boston,
Mass., Mr Thite sighted a flying objeet which
he was unable to identify.
At this time Mr White was sitting in the co-
pilots seat, and looking out the right side for other aireraft that might
be in the vicinity. Mr White stated that when he first sighted the object.
It appared to be about 3 miles away, and at least 1,000 feet below the level
of the Constellation. Mr White belleves that he studied the objeet for almost
30 seconds before he elled the pilot's attention to it. Mr White deseribed
the object as being a deep gold in color, and that ital surface reflected
It appeared to be about 15 feot in length, and from 2-3 feet in depth;
elliptical in shape and blunted at the ends. Mr white estimated the speed of
the objeot as being 175 miles per hour, and that it was travelling in on eust-
orly direction, on a course of approxinately 110° magaetie. Mr White then
told the aireraft commander that there was an unidentified object to the right,
and again glanced out to observe the object, oatching a momentary glimpse of
it before the pilot banked the plane to the left.
Then the afroraft banked
Me White lost sight of the objaat.
At thia point, Mr Powell, the aireraft
Captain, exclaimed that he was able to see a similar objeet on his side.
Mr White was unsble to see the object on Mr Powell's side. He stated that
he does not believe that it was the sane objeot that he had viewed inasmuch
as the one he saw if it had remained on the same course would have been
hidden from view by that time by the wage and tail seotion of the Constella-
tion.
Mr White stated that the pilot then righted the plane. The entire in-
oldent transpired in less than a miaute and one-half.
Mr White deseribes then
woatheticondition at the time of sightings as
follows, about 5/10th scattered cumulus, with tops at 10,000 feet; visibility
10 miles; wind at flight level, lest at about 15 mph. The flight level of the
aireraft et this time was 8,000 feet, TAS 270, and the magnetle course was ST.
AGSUTS JOTES, Mr Walter I. White haggbeen employed by Pan Amerioan Airways
for the past five years as a Navigator, and during the war worked with PAA
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in conjunction with contract flying for the AAP. Mr White states that he
has flow with Mr Powell on a number of occasions, and he considers him
to be a very stable persons completely reliable, and not given to
"flights of fancy",
Related Report: See Summary of Information, 12 September 1947. Hg ADC,
subject, "Unidentified Flying Objects" (interview - Alphaus 0. Powell).
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AGENTS NOTES: Mr. A. O. Powell is a graduate of the Aviation Cadet Flying
Training Program, having graduated from Maxwell Field, Alabana, with the
Class of 41-C•
Since graduation, Mr. Powell has flown for Pan American
Airways end, at this date, has over 4,000 command pilot hours to his eredit.
Mr. Powell appears to be a calm, intelligent individual, not given to
flights of faney, or easily swayed by what he has previously read in the
newspapers as regards reports of this typo. Mr. Powell has a fear of publi-
city and seemed hesitant to even tell his story lest he become the object of
ridicule. Mr Powell was questioned as to the possibility that what he
sighted might have been a tow target, a pilot balloon, or a radiosonio device
used for meteorologieal purposes.
Mr Powell stated that he has seen numerous
pilot balloons, radiosonic devices and tow targets, while on flights, the
ob jeot observed on this flight definitely was not one of them.
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HQ. BARTD, Birminghen ANT, Birminghen, Ale., ata & July 47,
subj: Report on Local "Flying Disc."
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HEADQUARTERS, FOURTERNTH AIR FORCI, Orlando, Morida,
UL 211947
TO:
Commending General, Alr Defense Command, Mitchel Meld, New Jork,
1. Forvarded for information of your Headquarters.
This Headquarters has made no investigation of "ying Diac"
reports because this 1s an isolated case.
FOR THE COMMANDING GENERAL:
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Asst, Adje Gen
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BIRMINGHAM AIR RESERVE TRAINING DETACHMENT
BIRMINGHAM ARMY UR FIELD
Birmingham, AJabama
1/3 00/010
& July 1047
SUBJECT: Report on Local "Flying Dise"
TO :
7795
Commanding Genere 1
Pourtoenth Air Force, 1D0
Crlando, Florida
Attn:
4-2
asso, milan to ricort a nobodier satan in their reno
of Sunday, 6 July 1017.
2.
Attention is invited to the two light apots on the print end
the light trail following the two discs. The arronet the top of the
photograph indicates the direction of fli ht. This has been examined
by professional photographers in Birminghen and their general opinion
is that the two spots shown on the light trail
Jere no flawsin the
negative, but instead, an actual photograph of
mysterious dise.
3.
The undersigned officor did not personally witness the flight
of any disc, however, in view of the numerous reports recoi ed fron the
nationa na than it to one con not dare name that lo
a statement made by the only military personnel of this organization
who perconally witnesed the flight of the mysterious dise.
nor sadi-
tional information attached as Inolosure number three nro cliprings cror
one of the local newsrepers giving an a cecuat of the mony percas uno re-
ported seeing the mny mystoricus objects.
4.
The intelligence ofticor of the Mabera lilitory Distriot has
forwarded a similar re
ort through ground force channels to the Commanding
General, Third Army, Atlante 3, Georgia.
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Report on Local "Flying Diac"
D333.5 ID (8 Jul 47)
2nd Ind
HQ., AIR DEFENSE COMMAND, Mitchel Field, New York, 25 July 1947.
TO:
Connanding General, Army Air Forces, Washington 25, D. C.
ATIN: AC/AS-2
Forwarded for your information.
FOR THE COMMANDING GENERAL:
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62-83894 - 130 THE WEA
*Furnished by the U, S. Weather
For
Birmingham and Vicinity-
Partly cloudy and warm today, to-
night and tomorrow with a
scattered showers
this afternoon.
High today 86, low tonight 70, high
tomorrow 90.
PRICE: 5 CENTS
Flying
Saucers Reported
From 39 States, But Seem
To Be Concentrated Here
City Is Baffled By
Dazzling Display
Of Spooky Discs
The
strange
things that have
been in night skies since June 25,
were over Birmingham last night.
On one thing everyone who has
seen the mysterious objects agree
-they are round, saucer-like. After
that, every story differs. Each of
the
hundreds of callers who re-
ported witnessing the baffling sky
demonstrations here last night had
a different version of what they
saw.
Some said
the objects were
large, some small. They were mov-
ing at great speed. They were sus-
pended in the air. There was sound
along with their movements. They
moved noiselessly through the black
sky. They were at great distance
from the earth. They had fallen to
the ground. They were in perfect
formation.
They
were colliding
with each other.
But whatever the things are that
have set the nation agog since first
reported 12 days ago by a man in
Washington State, they definitely
were over the Magic City last night.
It seems, in fact, that more Bir
mingham residents saw the objects
than in any other place.
**
REPORTS BEGAN coming into
the Age-Herald eity room around
8 o'clock last night. For more than
an hour thereafter, the place was
bedlam. The switchboard operators
were swamped with calls. Report-
ers, office boys, copy readers-
CAMERA HERE CATCHES "FLYING SAUCER"-Robert Cross-
land, Age-Herald copy reader, has camera proof that the much-dis-
cussed flying discs were over Birmingham last night. The picture
above was made by Mr. Crossland at 8:37 p.m. last night at his home
at 29th. Street and Highland Avenue.
He said he gave the film la
15-second exposure.
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everyone in the place was called
into action.
Reports came in from Edgewood,
Mountain Brook, Avondale, South-
side, Fairfield, Pratt City,
West
End, Central Park, Bessemer.
There was fear, excitement,
hor-
ror, skepticism in the voftes. One
can the ob
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5_ THE BIRMINGHAM NEWS
Mysterious Flying
Saucers Reported
In Birmingham Skies
Continued From Page 1
Although the reports to The Age-
Herald last night dwindled off at
about 9 p.m., there was a final call
from a man at 10, saying he had
seen the objects over the south.
eastern section. This morning, there
were more reports, more queries
coming into The News.
Maj. White issued a message to
Birmingham residents: "We'll do
everything the Army Air Forces is
empowered to do to run down the
mystery of the discs. This thing
seems to have gotten beyond the
point of, speculation. Birmingham
can rest assured the air base will
keep on the alert until the mys-
tery is settled."
man admitted baving
jects several weeks ago
"but was
ashamed to tell my wife."
Whatever it is going on in the
night skies, it has the entire nation
in a dither.
The flying discs have
eclipsed every other national and
international event in the minds of
the American people.
Broadcasts
from England last night said the
Britishers were scoffing at the
story. But when persons in 30-odd
states have reported seeing the ob-
jects, there must be something to
the story.
Birmingham police headquarters
was flooded with calls, too, last
night. So was the Weather Bureau,
the control tower at the airport, air-
line officers,
At the Birmingham Army Air-
field, Maj. Jack C. White,
com-
mandant, ordered an alert and dis-
patched a plane to fly around the
eity. The plane, with Lt. L. S. Rob-
inson at the controls, circled the
city for an hour and 15 minutes at
from 4,000 to 5,000 feet. He was un-
Pable to report any unnatural ob-
jeets.
Scientists indicate that the ob-
jects are merely tricks of the eyes.
In fact, Howard Blakeslee, Associ-
ated Press scientific writer, has
stated he has seen similar objects
from his home on Long Island for
many years and associated no. mys
tery with them. They are a combi-
nation of eye and light tricks, is..
his answer.
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MONDAY, JULY 7, 1947
RADIO-GUIDED, SAYS LAD
"I'd like to give my opinion
about what the flying saucers
really! are,"
Michael Eisman,
10, told The News this morn-
"The grammar school youth,
in the fifth grade and going o1
to
the sixth"
at Crestin
Heights School, eagerly gave
his theory.
"They are new radio-guided
rocket discs from
another
country that is planning war
on the United States," he said.
"They are
cameras. They '
guided
back
to their home
anyone
from
seeing
to
get their pietures
young Eisman.
biggest
cotton gin.
the West Coast.
at 4 Clarendon Road.
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Charles F. Bradley,
• Birmingham
weather man, said he did not believe
the spectacle was a weather phe-
nomena,
"I have
instructed
my
staff to be on the alert for any in-
into its the lying saucers,
rushed
"I saw the land-
formation they might gather on the
ing lights of a DC-3'and 17 light-
matter.
he said.
GREATEST
EXCITEMENT of
ning bugs," he reported.
Mrs. James Bain, 1225 South 29th
the evening came when a man re-
Street, saw three discs traveling
ported some of the discs had faller
from east to west. Two more
were
in a ravine near Avonwood. A re
portes ends photographer went to
spotted later, followed by a single
disc, as neighbors gathered.
scenes-and
found nothing.
Residents of the district said the
J. L. Kardus, 2100 Clanton Street,
discs had passed low and appeared
Bessemer, reported seeing "strange
to have fallen in the trees.
lights" moving through the sky be-
Robert
Crossland,
Age-Herald
tween Bessemer and Red Mountain
copy reader, rushed for his camera
"They were going very fast."
he
when the objects passed over his
said.
residence on 29th Street and High-
** *
land Avenue. His developed film
"Whirling saucers" were reported
revealed two round, white spots on
seen by Dan, Smirl, 14,
1429 10th
the black, elose together, one large Place, South, men Marviouhero, We
er than the other.
He said he gave 626 10th Avenue.
the picture a 15-second exposure. weren't looking for them," the boys
Five other persons were with him reported. "We were standing in the
when the picture was made.
when we saw round silver
But witnesses aren't needed any
Yashes cireling around. They came
longer to bear out reports of the
one at a time at first, then the num-
strange demonstration.
Too many
ber increased. They seemed to go
persons good, solid citizens have over the mountain.
seen
the things.
In fact, they're
**
thinking of calling the show out at
At police headquarters, Officer
p. E. McNeal said reports of the
Munger Bowl tonight, "The Disc-
light Opera."
discs began at 8:10 p.m. and ceased
about 20 minutes later.
Scores Of People Report
*
"Streaks of
light flying very
slow" were reported seen by Mrs.
Seeing Mysterious Discs
H. M. Sockwell,
1360 Meadow Lane
Residents of East Lake, South-
Green Acres. She said she rushed
side, West End, Woodlawn and Bes-
into her yard as soon as she heard
semer reported seeing the flying
the report on the radio. She and
discs or saucers last night. One disc her husband and five neighbors saw
was reported seen yesterday after-
six of the discs flying "fairly low."
noon over the Warrior River.
The
She said they were the size of a
number seen at one time varied.
***
Nine of the discs were seen br
Connie Murdoch, 512
South 10th
Court.
"They
were gobs of light
moving around the sky," she re-
ported.
**.
H. E. Reagor,
1318 45th Street,
said he and neighbors saw
"40 or
50" light spots in the sky, apparent-
ly over the Central Park Airport
area.
***
One resident of East Lake, hear
"BIG AS TABLES"
"I called to find out it Im
crazy," said Mrs. Gordon Mize,
of the Bessemer Super-High-
way, who telephoned The
News this morning to repor$
seeing mysterious flying discs.
Mrs. Mize said she and her
husband and their hosts saw
the "balls of fire" as they pre-
pared to get into their
after a visit with Mr. and Mrs.
Gordon Bush at Brighton, be-
tween 9:30 and 10 last night.
She said the flash
lights,
which
appeared as
beacon
lights coming over a hill, came
from the direction, of Besse-
mer.
The lights would come at
lightning speed and then stop
dead still and hang in the sky
they said.
Then they would
dart off again, some returning
in the direction of Bessemer
and
some
going on.
Some
would circle.
Others would
pass each other and scarcely
avoid collision.
"They were about as large
as my dining room table," she
said.
baseball and traveled in a "big
curve from southwest to southeast.
The saucers came at intervals of
about five seconds.
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A citizen of Fairueld Hignlands
said the flying discs came over his
residence at a speed of about 1,500
miles an hour.
"They would go in
Mr. and-Mrs. J. R. Martin and Mr
opposite directions, stop, and bump
and Mrs. Frank Arnold. 732 47th
into each other,
." he reported.
Way, South.
"Some of them went
as
fast as. bullets, while
others
Gene Plumstead, program
man-
floated around. They were the size
ager of WSGN, reported the flying
of an automobile tire."
**
discs over Edgewood Lake.
Mr. and Mrs. William Howell,
J. A. Hafner, 3301 Avenue , Ens-
1004 Bast Court, South, reported
ley, said the lights appeared like a seeing 11 discs about 8:30 a.m.
spot thrown by a huge searchlight.
He said, however, he could see no
"About 15 of them passed over
our house shortly before 8." said
beam such as would come from a
Mrs. Helen Mallory.
1404 North
searchlight.
12th Court. Mrs. Mallory said the
A number
*f" "white
round objects were first sighted by her
things" were seen in the skies over son, Milo, who called the rest of
West End by Mrs. Alfred Hack-
the family.
"They looked like a
barth, 1760 McMillan Avenue.
flash of light that went by in such
...
a hurry you couldn't describe it,"
L. M. Cadenhead, 2000
48th
she said.
Street, Central Park, saw the lighta
. *
over Powderly, * .
Frank S. Lovelace, policeman for
the Tennessee Coal,
Iron and Rail.
They looked like saucers," said
road Company,
reported seeing
eight or 10 of the objects.
"They
looked about the saee audisapane
he said.
southeast and whirled around sev-
eral minutes."
...
S-Sgt. I. Li. Livingston, of the Bir-
mingham Army Airfield, observed
dises from his Green Acres
residence.
"They were
going zig-
zag from Bast to West," he said.
R. H. VAUGHN, III, who served
as an anti-aircraft gunner in Bu-
rope, saw the
"flying saucer" dis-
play with
his father from their
home in Ensley Highlands. "I never
shot at anything moving as rapidly
as they were." he said. Vaughn be-
lieves the
"discs"
are some sort
of natural phenomena, like the
Aurora Borealis.
***
Jimmy Dewberry, 11, of 1030 16th
Avenue. South, said he saw a "fly.
ing saucer"
while visiting at his
grandmother's
on
South.
14th
Avenue,
"It looked like a shooting
star." Jimmy said,
"but it was too
low for that. It had a long red tail."
Searchlight Reflection
Theory Is Advanced
The mysterious "lying discs" ob-
served in Birmingham last night
may be a carnival beacon light at
Siluria, about 20 miles south of Bir-
mingham.
That was a solution offered this
morning by
William B. Hayes, of
the Reconstruction Finance Corpo-
ration in the Comer Building here.
Mr. Hayes, who served
inthe
Army in the Pacific, said he and
others there had seen similar sights
throughout the South Pacific is-
lands caused by searchlights.
He based his theory on high over-
cast skies last night and said the
beacon at the Siluria carnival prob
ably struck the high clouds and
gave the indication of being "Dying
saucers."
Mr. Hayes is a pilot.
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I, Staff Sergeant Ira L. Livingston, RA 14 153 972, Air Corps, have
approximately 250 hours flying time as oilot and Armorer
Gunner have
the following statement to make concerning the appearence of "Plying Discs"
in the vicinity of Birmingham, Alabema.
At 2045 hours, 6 July 1947, while I was eatine sumper at my residence
at 1354 Meadow Lane, Green Acres, Birmingham, Alabama, my next door neighbor,
Mr. Herman M. Sookwell, called for me to come to the front door that there were
some "Flying Dises" outside.
Immediately I went out in the front yard to
observe the objects. The objects nopeared to the West of Birmingham traveling
in a South Tastern direction.
They apoeared to be amoroximately 2000 feet
above the horizon at a 15 degree angle from where I was standing at an un-
at an estimated.speed of five (5) to six (6) hundred miles ver hour.
The objects or object apoenred to be traveling in a definite are rather than
straight and as soon as one was out of sight another would appear behind
it, but not alweys in the same path. I saw one that seemed to come straight
up.
The view of where it ceme fron was obstructed by a nearby house; and
when it reached the altitude of soproximately 2000feet, it started off in
the same direction as the others. I did not at any time see any more than
one at the time and even though there could have been only one, my person!
belief is that there were seven (7) to ten (10). The Discs were silent and
appeared to be composed of a single light.
Ana d. frigilar
Ira L. Livingston
Steff Sergeant, RA 14 153 972
Subscribed end sworn to before me this 7th day of July 1947.
Asst Adj.
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SUBJBOT: Lotter of Trenamittal,
TO
Commanding General,
Atlantie Division, ATC,
Fort Totten, Long Island, N. Y.
(ATTENTION: AC/S, Intelligence)
Reference Latter of Trenmittal, this offloe, dated 28 July
1947, w1th four (4) inolosures (Inclosures 1, 2 and 3, Final Reporte of
Sightinge of "flying neucera", and Incloture 4, Signed Statement - Con-
stable. KRARSEY), transmitted herewith in Final Report of Sighting of
"flying saucers" in Newfoundland, which ocourred at Harmon Field, Stephen
ville, Newfoundlend at 03452, 23 July 1947.
FOR THE COMMANDING GENERALS
1 Inels
Final Rpt of Sighting, 23 Jul 47
Marion C. Miller
MARION C. MILLER,
Captain, A1r Corps,
AG/S, Intelligence.
Ist Indo
HD, ATLANTIC DIVISION, ATC, FORT TOTTEN, L.I., NEW YORK 6 Aug 47
TO:
Connanding General, Air Transport Conmand, Washington 25, D.C.
ATIN: Chief of Staff
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1. Organizations
1388th AAF Base Unit
APO 86h, c/o Postmaster, New York, N, I.
2. S1ghting
Strange intermittent flashes that may tie in
with "Flying Disca".
3. Place
Harmon Field, Stephenville, Newfoundland.
4. Time
: 03452, 23 July 1947.
5. Altitude : Approximately 10,000 feet high.
6. Weather : High scattered condition; visibility better
then fifteen (15) miles.
7. Heading / From South, heading NNE (approximately 30º )
8. Speed
: High velocity; stated to be faster than a
conventional airplane.
9. Description: The observers saw a light which at first appeared
to be a shooting star or airplane. It appeared
again, and a mumber of intermittant flashes were
seen for a period of approximately three (3) minutes.
The flashes were reddish in color. Observers said it
was not a falling star because it did not appear as
such; nor was it an airplane, because manoeuvers were
too abrupt and there was no noise of a motor.
10. Reported by:
Miss Patricia Abbott, (Newfoundland National) Government
Employee and Lt. Harmaker, Navigator and Public Relat-
ions Officer.
11. General: The informants (noted in Par. 10) were walking when they
noticed a peculiar reddish light. Both Miss Abbott and
Lt. Hammaker stated that at first, they thought it was
a falling star, but if left no streak.
It appeared
again; they thought it might be a plane flying at a
very high altitude. After observing its menoeuvers,
they concluded, because of the silence (no hun of motor)
and abrupt darts of the light, it was definately not
an airplane. Neither Miss Abbott nor It. Hammaker hal
seen anything like it before.
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SUBJBCTs Letter of Transa
Ittal.
(ATTENTION: AC/S, Intelligence)
Roport of Stealinged orth a not mound a rainty
Listed as follons:
Pinal Report of Sighting - 20002, 10 July 1947
- 00302, 11 July 1947
- 00152, 20 July 1947
Reference TIA - IN 18469, this headquarters, dated 1217302
July 1947, rogarding sightings of "flying saucere" by Constable ERIC
KEARSEY, Newfoundland Constabulary, at Grand Falls, Newfoundland, on
the night of 9 July 1947, attached herewith, as inclosure 4, 1a signed
statement of this sighting by Constable KEARSET.
FOR THE COMMANDING GENERALS
Maron eMiller
MARION C. MILLER,
Captain, Air Corps,
AC/S, Intelligence.
4 Incles
1. Final Rpt of 81ghting, 10 Jul 47
, 11
Jal 47
20 Jul 47
Signed Statement - Const KRARSEY
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FINAL REPORT OF SIGHTING authority
(Name)
Can i cang 42
(Date)
1.
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3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
Org•
: 1388th AAP BU, NBC, ATLD, ATC. Harmon Field, Newfoundland.
Sighting
: Flying Disc or other airborne object.
Place
: Approx six (6) miles SSW of Harmon Field.
Time
Altitude.
: 2000/%, 10 July 1947
: 8- 10,000 ft.
Weather
: Clear,
Scattered Cumlus 8 - 10, 000 ft.
Heading : NNE on horizontal course.
Speed
Very high velocity.
Shape & Size: Circular like a waeel, estimated to be same size as a C-54
as seen from 10, 000 ft.
10. Color
:
Translucent or Silvery, left a Bluish Black trail approx
15 miles long•
11. Photographs:
Ar. Robert W. Leidy reported that he took two (2) Kodachrome
snap shots of the trail.
12. Reported By:
ar. John N. Merhnan, TWA mechanic; Mr. John W. Woodruff,
PAA mechanic; and Nr. Robert E. Leidy, PAA mechanic reported
the above facts to the Intelligence Officer on 15 July 1947.
A Flash Report was TWX ed to : Action copy
• Comnanding
General, Hq. ATC, Attn. Asst. Chief of Staff, Intelligence.
Info copies: Commanding Generals Hq. ATLD and Hq. NBC
13. General
Mister's Nerhman, Woodruff, and Leidy were enroute from
Stephenville Crossing to Harmon Field at the time of the
sighting•
Mr. Woodruff was the first to see the Disc, it
appeared to rent or split the clouds thru which it passed
and left a Bluish Black trail approx. fifteen (15) miles.
long behind it.
The trail was similar to the afterglow of
a powerful landing light or search light bean after it is
suddenly switched off.
the object maintained a straight and
horizontal course according to Mr. Merhman and Nr. Woodruff,
Mr. Leidy stated it appeared to be on a great curved course
on a horizontal plane. The object disappeared into the
North Northeast. Mr. Leidy says he took two (2) Kodachrome
Photographs of the trail. The film has been transmitted
to the Asst. Chief of Staff, Intelligence, Newfoundland
Base Command for processing.
Time somet
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1. Organization:
(Name)
• (Rank)
1388th AAF Base Unit
(Date)
APO 864, c/o Postmaster, New York, N.Y.
2. Sighting
: Flying Disc or other airborne object.
3. Place
: Codroy, Newroundland, 59°03' W Long•; 17050' N Lat.
4. Time
: 00302 hours, 11 July 1947.
5. Altitude : Approximately 6,000 feet.
6. Weather
: Clear; at dusk.
7. Heading
: From northwest heading eastward.
8. Speed
: Very high velocity.
9. Shape & Size: Disc shaped; was reported as being the size of a
barrel-head, dinner-plate and size of a plane
that is flying high. The trail gave the whole
object the appearance of a cone.
10. Color
: Flame colored with a trail of a lighter flame color.
11. Reported by : Mr. John Legge, Mr. Wm. Evans and Albert Samms of
Codroy, Newfoundland.
12. General
: Mr. Legge and Mr. Evans were standing outside Mr. Legge's
store when they both sighted the object.. Both men stated
that the disc was very bright with an after-glow which
made the object look like a cone. It was a very clear
night. In spite of the high velocity of the flying
object, they said they could not possibly have mistaken
it for a plane or a falling star. Besides the two men,
the object was sighted by Albert Samns; he reported what
he had seen to his mother. Mrs. Samms stated that Albert
was in no way alarmed about it, he was alone and on his
way home when he sighted it, and watched it while it was
in sight. Albert was quite convinced from the color and
behaviour of the object that it was not a plane, but
definately some flying object.
The informant, Mr. Legge, is believed to be reliable.
He is a man of approximately forty; has had considerable
experience as foreman of Buchans Mine, Newfoundland, where
he was in charge of three hundred men.
During the war,
Mr. Legge was a mamber of a civilian volunteer Air
Detection Corps.
With that o ckground,
Mr. Legge stated
that he felt sure that the object he had seen was some-
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Albert Samna is a twelve year old boy. He was alone
when he saw the flying object, he was very definite
that he nad never seen anything like it before.
mother, Mrs. Semms, is the Post Mistress of the town,
and after hearing Albert's description, felt that it
answered to the description of a "Flying Disc". Mr.
Legge reported his sighting shortly afterwards to Mrs.
Samms benuse he was sure it should be made known to
her in order that the incident might be reported hy
telegram immediately•
There was one other sighting reported from a River
Warden at South Branch. The man could not be con-
tacted at time of interviews with other parties.
However, a second-hand description of his sighting
wag obtained, and it agreed with the sightings at
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1. Organization:
1388th AAF Base Unit
(Data)
APO 86l, c/o Postmaster, New York, N.I.
2. Sighting : Plying Disc or other Airborne Object.
3. Place
: On board Steamship "BURGEO" enroute from Sydney,
Nova Scotia to Port aux Basques, Newfoundland,
about one hour out from Sydney.
Lo Time
: 00152 20 July 1947.
5. Altitude 1 300 off the horizon at an estimated quarter mile range.
6. Weather : Clear and dark.
?. Reading : NNE (30° East of True North) on horizontal plane.
8. Speed
*High velocity, stated to be faster than a tracer bullet.
9. Description: Observers did not see the object, they saw its flashes
and all four observers agreed there were four (4) or
five (5) flashes approximately one (1) second apart
and equidistant.
The flashes were said to be silvery
to reddish in color, and were described by two observ-
ers to be like those of a fire Ply only larger and at
equal intervals, and did not look like a shooting star
or airplane.
10• Reported by: Messrs Maitland, Larkin, Douglas and Hamilton of
hamilton, Metcalfe and Kansas City Bridge Companies
which concern is doing the construction at Harmon Field.
11, General
The four gentlemen (noted in Par.10) and Captain Gullage,
Master of the "Burgeo", were standing on the starboard
deck, and as the Captain was trying to describe a previous
sighting, he saw the flashes; the other four gentlemen
also saw them as described herein, and believed that it
was not a meteorite or airplane because of its speed,
color, and evenly spaced discharges or flashes.
Captain Gullage told the four gentlemen that he had seen
the same thing at approximately the same time and location.
(ship's position) on the evening of 15 July 1947, except
at that time, the object or flashes were traveling faster
and frequently changing course the said it changed cours
abruptly several times) and was headed generally to the
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General cont'd
: SSH. The Captain also told the four gentlemen
that he was willing to make a complete report
if the information is desired for official
purposes.
WILLIAM H. SMITH
Captain, Air Corps
Intelligence Officer.
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(Date) .
16 daly 1947
Interrogatios of SOll 3. WOO2ISJ7, Chie? Neshante, Pan Ameries
Airways,
arnon M1e14, Newfoundland,
taken at 1415 107, 16 July 1947,
by Captain V1211an H. Smith, A0, latel/Sgene 089leez.
9. D14 you see one of the so called "Tying Diake" or
other objeet
on the 30th Jalyl
A. Tes, I 414.
Can you sive the approzimate time?
A. Approximately 1700.
Tell me the efreunstanoes under which you saw this objeet.
A.
We were coming back fron a flahing trip, and coming over the hi11
between here and Stephenville Crossing you san see the elond for-
nation ahead, I saw the objess break out where the elouds opened
and 1t left. 1ts trail behind it.
q.
Had you been drinking?
No.
q.
A.
q..
A.
Ten vere riding in a car at the time you saw 1t1
Tes, in the front seat of the. Pan
American ear.
What was the veather like that day?
It was very clear and the elouds were very seattered.
Mas vee the approxipate altitude of the eloude!
1ºa say from 8000 feet te 10,000 feet.
Did you see the Disk Steel11
..
1$ went through the adz.
How von thie Disk bravellinG, hortsontal, deseending or ascending?
It vas horisontal.
bout hor ble ald it expen to it vas about the else of a 5a as a
ron the hei ht of it.
Constellation.
bout how far apart 410 it break the elond
It spread the elouds out abeut half m1le
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Interrogation of John 3. Woodruf? (Cont'a)
A.
A.
A.
Q.
A.
DIa 1€ leave a trailt
(20) miles long.
Have you ever seen a meteez?
Yes.
Do you think this vas a neteor
No, I don't think so, 1t was out too clean. This was as asraigh
as an arrow.
What was the course of the objeet?
Vell, looking at the map I'd sey Morth North Bast.
A. Tes.
Fow. long have you been vorking around aireraft!
A.
Seven (7) years.
Vere you la the Arny during the time of the War?
Д.
No.
Did you take any pletures?
A. Ho, I did not, but one of the boys took some.
Tes, 1t was an ideal day for plotures.
shu
& Woodrull
JOAN E. WOODRUFT
Chief Mechanie
Pan Aneriean Airways
The gam ba to 195.
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INTIELIGENCE OFFICE
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BRADQUARTERS 1388TH AAT BASE UNIT AL
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HENTOUNDLAND BASE CONNAND, ATID-ATO-)
(Rank)
(Date)
APO 864, c/• Postmaster, New Tork, 1. Y.
16 July 1947
Interrogation of J0M V. MINIMAN, J1., Supervisor and Mechenio,
Trans World Airveys, Harmon Field, Newfoundland, taken at 1430 k7,
16 July 1947, by Captain Willien K. Smith, AC, Intelligence 01f1cer.
low long have you been ansoelated with airera?? and aviation?
A. Since approximately 1938.
I: ver.
Vore you in the Arny daring the Var?
Q. What did you do in the Army?
horial Canner.
Q. Did your job during the var entail you to be able to judge distances
and sises of objeets and ranges?
.. Tes.
On the evenlag of 10 July 1947, die you see one of she so called
"Tying Diske" or an objeet in the sky?
A.
Tes, ve vere coming up over the mountain between here and Stephen-
T11le Crossing.
The car vas going up hill and we could see the sky
through the windshield. Mr. Woodruff said "look at the out in the
sky". I looked up and sav a blueinh black vapor trail.
Did you see the objeet!
A. Alo, I just saw the trail as 18 was left behind.
Can you deseribe the affect the object had on the eloud formation?
A.
The clouds were very scattered and were about from 8000 feet to
10,000 feet, the object passed through and out the cloud leaving a
gap where you could see the blue sly, like a knife had out 1t. The
olges were feathered similar to a veld, as 1f you eut a weld in half.
Did the object appear to be deseending, ascendinie, or horisontal?
It was herisental and seemed to renais on atrue course.
What vas your estimate of the eourse?
A.
Approxinately Worth Worth last.
Q.
A.
Can you five any estimate as to the sise of the objeet?
I 41d not see the objeet.
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las the trail fan ahapedi
A.
lo it vas more or less a bead aross the sky la a straigat path
Did 18 male a messe?
To noise.
Q. What went on in the ear when you sighted the objess?
A.
Ve stopped the ear and get out and looked at 1t.
One of the beys
had a camera and took a photograph of the trail that the objeet
left.
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What was the name of the man who took the photograph!
Robert Leidy.
Do not So, 1/96,170, 02 Pla Me Lofty ve setsel
Do you know whether Nr. Leidy saw the Diak or objeet
I don' believe se.
Supervisor and Meebeale
Trans World Arvey
No a gear at to f9y
Captals, Air Berpe
Adjutan:
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ХИРИЬЬОНСЯ OFTICH
MINTOUKDLAND BASE COMMAND, ATTA-ANE
•APO 664, / Postmaster, New Ter, I. T.
(Rank) (Dater
16 July 1947
Interrogation af
• V. IRIDE, Ssation Mechante, Pan Amerien
Airvays, Harson Pold,
Newfoundland, taken at 2450 879,
6 July 1941
by Captain W1ll1an H. Saith, A0, Intelligenee Offleer.
saw an objeet or
A. Tes, I vas.
wining when they
•a 10 July 19471
Q. On you tell ne the elzeunstenees undez which you saw the objees
A.
oz 180 Sra111
Well, Mr. Moodraf? saw 11 first and said he saw the thing ravelling
ahrough the sky. No a1d not believe him at first but when hé
vas 8o
oneerned about it vo stepped the car and got out. I had my sanere
so Sook a ploture of 1t. There was a bluesah streak left in the sic
which en24 not have been a cloud forsation. I$ was a defiaite sral)
and eased the clouds to break open as 10 vent through.
Did 18 eut a path through the elena?
sharp edges to the eloude.
What was the trail 11kel
Loud not to l the a de 0ole Fue dent passa
&: Vo, In looked tale he bool roto the eload and left able openise.
las the trail herisental, coing up, or coming deun
A.
8 100ked her sensel
A.
has a abe. it, the the cloud,
=, they were pretty high shough
What time was this?
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sles of Robert V. Resey (Cons'e)
Did yen see the objeett
Ne
Sew lons do you think the brail was
10 1010, 7eu 04l6 sasily 800
le11, as 1 said before,
ares is the path.
Love you over toes a seteort
Can you estimate the sise of the
Is the elends?
How long have you been vorking arenad planes, ete?
B1= (6) y0078
Jere you la the Arty during the vast
No. * Pontos 414 yo tokel
me?
here are the'flls new
1e12, 1 took three or four rollo and 1 a
pietures are on.
thinh 18 18 out
out yet:
V111 you give us the four zolle of 811a o
offlelally!
Tes, sir.
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Are you williag to give the Army a ce
trail!
Tes.
7 of the pietures of the
Zones W Leid
Station Mechanie
Pan Anertean Airway
scribed to before no
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Captain, Als Corps
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STATEMENT OF MR. JOHN P. LEGGE, CORDROY, NEWFOUNDLAND. TAKEN BY
MERCEDES BURKE OF THE INTEL IGENCE OFFICE, HARMON FIELD, NEWFOUND-
LAND. 17 July 1947.
At approximately 10 o'elook in the evening of 10 July 1947
I was standing by my store door; I happened to look up and saw
what appeared to be a "FLYING SAUCER".
It definately was not a
would have fallen in the water.
It was a niee elear night, no
•louds, it mas just getting dark. I would say it was traveling at
the rate of a shooting star but mueh eloser. I'd say roughly at
6,000 feet. It was visible for about fifteen (15) seconds.
It
eame from the North West heading Eastward.
The cirale looked to
be about the size of a barrel head, and the trail behind looked
to be about fifteen (15) feet long. The trail behind the dise
made the whole object look like a eone.
Another thing that makes
me feel sure it wasn't ay shooting star is; a shooting star usually
leaves a temporary streak, this objeet I saw left no streak only
the one that appeared to travel behind the circle whieh looked like
an after-glow.
The cirele was a bright red, nearest I could des-
cribe it would be the eolor of a flame, the after-glow(eone-shaped)
was a fainter shado. What I saw last Thursday night resembled a
shooting star in no way whatsoever. There was only one.
Witness: Wilde i.
Witness:
Mucede Jurke
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STATEMENT OF MR. WM. EVANS, CORDROY? NEWFOUNDLAND. TAKEN BY
MERCEDES BURKE OF THE INTELLIGENCE OFFICE? HARMON FIELD, NAW-
FOUNDLAND. 17 July 1947•
At approximately 10 •'elock in the evening of 10 July 1947,
I was standing outside Mr. Leggo's store talking with him. We
both saw this thing dash aeross the sky. I couldn't be seeurate
about the diroations. If it was a shooting star, I'd never seen
one as large before, and it was mueh brighter than anything I've
ever seen in the sky. It looked to be a round object, I eouldn't
say it was anything else but round; it had a tail on it whieh
showed yellowish, but not as bright as the eirele which appeared
and nearest I could deseribe it would be sort of red and yellow.
The streak behind, I would say, was little over a yard long; the
eirele looked to be about the size of a large dinner plate.
went so fast, it was hardly in sight before it disappeared.
I
eould not give any idea of the height; all I oan say is it
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much eloser than a shooting star. and travelling at a great
speed.
Whatever it was it was flying through the air; it wasn't juet
a streak aeross the sky. To me it wasn't in any way like a
shooting star, and I am gure it wasn't an airoplane. I ealled 1t
& "FLYING SAUCER" beause it seemed exactly like what we had been
hearing ,so mueh about on the radio.
m. EVANS
tom Foraue
Was: Nucle Bunken
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STATEMENT OF ALBERT SAMMS, CORDROY, NEWFOUNDLAND. TAKEN BY
MERCEDES BURKE OF THE INTELLIGENCE OFFICE, HARMON FIELD NEW-
FOUNDLAND. 17 July 1947.
Last Thursday night I was out by our house, I happened to
look up and saw what I thought was an airoplane. It was flying
at the height of a plane that is flying high.
Then I thougnt
it looked strange for an airoplane, beause it was all lit up
so bright, planes do have a light or two, but this thing was very
bright - sort of a bright reddish yellow. I saw it only for a
minute because it was travelling at a teriffia peed. It shot
out of sight go quickly I thought it strange if it was an airop-
Then, I remembered what I'd been hearing about "FLyIND
SAUCERS" I ran in and told my mother.
natasa, 7 was one ai
wates: Neede turke
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Albert rushed in and told me about this thing he'd just seen.
at firet he thought it was an airoplene but then he remembered
having herod about "FLYING SAUCERS" and he thought that's what
it must have been. I questioned him; he said it eouldn't have
been a plane beenuee a plene wouldn't shoot down like that dia,
besides it was too "lit up"
Mr. Legge reported the same thing to me in order that I maght
report same to st. John's in the morhing.
Mrs JOHN SAMMS.
Tmo John Samms.
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SUBJECT
Re:-
STATION Grand Falls,
DATE July 13th. 1947..
Strange objects seen flying over Grand
Falls on night of July 9th. at approx.
11,15 and 71.40.
Upon arrival at home I joined my wife, my mother-in-law,
and hir John Jackman a resident of St. John's and friend
of the family, who were sitting on the front steps of
the house. I was asked by my wife if had seen the
"flying saucers" I thought she was joking and replied
that I had seen nothing flying. Jackman and my mother-
in-law then told me that they had really seen four objecte
flying in an easterly direction just before I arrived.
I asked them to describe what they had seen. Jackman said
that four round shaped figures had passed overhead at a
terrific speed and were flying side by side.
On looking skywards again my wife, Jackman, and myself
saw a object which I would deseribe as being a huge jelly
fish flash across the the sky. It would be difficult to
deternine its height and speed owing to the brief period
it was visible. It's colour also would be hard to say,
but there seemed to be a phosphorus clow about it, 1t
was round in shape and about the size of a barrel head,
it appeared to be flying in a rocking motion.
is about all I can say about the matter,
continued to sean the aky for about a half hour bút no
sign of them were seen again.
Constable.
Cric Kearny
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LeStrange Esq•, J.P•,
Chier, of Police.
Res;
•Supastted.
L Strange sage, J.?•
Chief o
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STATION Grand Talie,
DATE July 13th. 1947..
UBJECT Re: - Strange objecte Been flying over Gran
alls on night of July ith. at approa
Sire
- respectrully report for your information that o
rednesday night,
he 9th. inat. I arrived home fro
duty at approx. 11.30.
n-law then told me that they had really seen four obleet
lying in an easterly direction just belore I arrived
passed overhead at a
Jacknas, and myeels
a huge jelly
1e about all I can say
about the matter,
sign of then were seen agaÍn.
Constable.
Keanery
Police.
Bosestral
Sunstros.
La Strengo 509:, 3.P.
Police
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From detailed study of reports selected for their impression of
veracity and reliability, several conclusions have been formed:
. (a) This "flying saucer" situation is not all imaginary or seeing
too much in some natural phenomenon. Something is really flying around.
(b) Lack of topside inquiries, when compared to the prompt and
demanding inquiries that have originated topside upon former events,
give more than ordinary weight to the possibility that this is a domestic
project, about which the President, eto. know.
(c) Whatever the objects are, this much can be said of their physical
appearance :
1. The surface of these objects is metallio, indicating a metallio
okln, at low then a trail 1a observed, It 1a Lightly colored, a Blue-Brown
haze, that is similar to a rocket engine's exhaust. Contrary to a rocket
of the solid type, one observation indicates that the fuel may be throttled
which would indicate a liquid rocket engine.
3. As to shape, all observations state that the object is cireular
or at least elliptical, flat on the bottom and slightly domed on the top.
The size estimates place it somewhere near the size of a C-54 or a Constellation.
symetrical about the im axis of flight motion..
5. Flights hase been reported, from three to nine of them, flying
good formation on each other, with speeds always above 300 knobs.
6. The discs oscillate laterally while flying along, which could
be snaking•
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CONFIDENTIAL
HEADQUARTERS FOURTH AIR FORCE
Office of the Assistant Chief of Staff, A-2
Intelligence
Hamilton Field, California
4AFDA
333.5/1208-I
25 August 1947
SUBJECT: Investigation of Flying Disc.
TO:
Headquarters, Army Air Forces, Washington 25, D. C.
ATTENTION:
AC of AS-2
1. The attached true copy of the letter of Mr. F. l!. Johnson of
Portland, Oregon, was received by this officer 22 August 1947.
2. Your attention is invited to the similarity of statement by
Mr. Johnson and Mr. Arnold.
3. This letter is being referred this date to the Special Agent
In Charge, FBI, Sen Francisco, for any investigation they may care to
make.
1 Inel:
Cy of ltr fr P.I. Johnson
(in dup)
DONALD L.
SPRINGER
It. Colonel, GSC
AC of S, A-2
03VI3
Ae 107.
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CONFIDENTIAL
PORTLAND, OREGON, August 20th 1947
Lt. Col. Donald L. Springer, Assistant Staff
Sir. Saw in the portland paper a short time ago in regards to
an article in regards to the so called flying dise having any basis
of fact. I can say am a prospector and was in the Mt Adams district
on June 24th the day Kennet Arnold of Boise Idaho claims he saw a
formation of flying disc. And i saw the same flying objects at about
the same time. Having a telescope with me at the time i can asure you
they are real and noting like them I ever saw before they did not pass
verry high over where I was standing at the the time, plobly 1000 ft.
they were Round about 30 foot in dimater tapering sharply to a point in *
the head end in an oval shape. with a bright top surface. I did not
hear any noise as you would from a plane. But there was an object in
the tail end looked like a big hand of a clock shifting from side to
side like a big magenet.
There speed as far as i know seemed to be
greater than anything I ever saw.
Last veiw I got of the objects they
were standing on edge Banking in a Cloud.
Yours Respeotfully
/s/
F. M. Johnson
106 No. West lst Ave
Portland, Oregon
A TRUE COPY:
. SPR
Lt. Colonel,
Gsc,
AC of S, A-2
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CONFIDENTIAL
PORILAND, OREGUN
30, July
1947
aar
C-D-N-T-1-F-I-C-A-T-Б
un 30 July 1947 Ur Kichard kankin, 834 N. 5. Simpson Street,
Portland, Oregon was inter ewed by this agent and stated in substance as
follows:
My name is Richard Rankin. I aml7 years old and have flown since
I was nineteen years old. I Mirst soloed in an air craft in 1919. I have flow
over all the western parts of the United States many times and have mapped
all of the western part of the United States during the years before the
late war for the US Forest Service. I am familiar with almost every part of
the western United States. During a great part of my life I have done stunt
thousands of Flying Cadets through primary training schools oned and oper-
abdd by him. To date I have accomplished 7000 hours in the air as pilot of
both civilian and Military aircraft. I an well acquainted with most articles
that one would see in the air and I feel that I am well qualified to say
when I see articles flying through the air, although I would not attempt to
say that I am infallable and state that I could definitely identify every
object that might be flying through the air. The following is. an account of
what I saw on ill June 1947 from the yard of my home at 180 South "™ st,
Bakersfield, California.
front yard of my home. There was a lad mowing the lam at the time.
up into the sky and saw ten articles flying from the South to th North at what
I muld judge to be 8500 ft. The objects were flying at approximately what I
woula judge to be 350 miles per hoir. As I hive stated before, I have done
quite a lot of map work for the US Forest Service. I distinctly remember that
at the time I saw the articles I mentioned it to the lad who was mowing the
lawn at the time. I told the lad that the objects were in all probability
some sort of Army or Navy test planes from the nearby test centers on the
deserts of Southern Califomia. Having quite a Inowledge of aircraft in
general I attempted to explain to the lad mowing the lawn that the objects
were probably on same sort of training mission for either the Arny or Navy•
At that time I did not give the slightest thought to anything but that the
objects were some sort of test hip for the Goverment services. The oglect.
resembled the pictures that I have seen of the 150-1,
Flapjack abdit that the Navy is testing. After the objects di sappeared I
proceeded into the house and had ny noon meal, At approximately 1415 I wen
back into the yard to sit and lie in the shade. At this time the objects re-
appeared going from Borth to South,
although this time there were only seven
of the articles, When I first saw the otiginal ten objects they were flying
in a "y" formation with one obict seemingly star.
formation met the otecte abet see te they tere strin ene
"V" fanatbon although there was only seven d the objects at this time. 1
remember this time that I told the lad, in o was still vo riding on the lawn,
that pobably three of the objects had poceeded back to their base on a diff-
erent course. I actually thought that this was the case, that the other three
objects had probably gone back to their base on the other side of the mountains
from Bakersfield. A week or so later when I read of ur Kenneth mold claiming
that he had seen articles flying through the air over the Cascale Mountains in
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'ONFIDENTIAL
Washington I realized that the articles that I savr were probably the same thing.
I was still reluctant to mention this to anyone thinking that they would prob-
ably say that I was crazy. After sometime I mentioned the ind dent to the
editor of the "Oregonian", a Portland, Oregon newspaper. At this time I was
in Portland for the remainder of the stner. The results & the conversation.
with the editor of the paper is put forth in the accompanying newspaper
article.
I fully realize that bhis is a broad statement-in view of the fact
that there hs been a much publicity lased put forth in various news-
papers of the country. I and sound mind in every respect and I am firaly
convinced that the articles I saw are actually some sort of flying machines
although I cannot say from where they came or to there thay were going. I say
what I have said with no idea of publicity or personal gain.
SIGNED
mone
1 Chi
an ke
Portland
Ore gon
30 July 1941
se52
CON
IAL
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CONt
ЧАЕ
Pilot Recalls
Seeing Discs
Dick Rankin Tells
Of Odd Aircraft
More reports of "flying flap-
jacks" turned up Wednesday,
one from no less than Dick
Rankin, brother of the late Tex
Rankin, and himself an expe
rienced pilot of more than 7000
hours' flying time.
Rankin, who is recovering
from an old back injury
re-
ceived in an automobile acci-
dent, came to Portland over
the week end to spend the sum-
mer. He saw the
"silver cau-
cers" over Bakersfield, Cal.,
June 23,
while lying
on the
lawn sun bathing, he told The
Oregonian.
"I hesitated to say
much
about them," Rankin said, "un-
til I noticed all the hullabaloo
in the
papers. I puzzled over
their strange shape for a while
and finally concluded
that they
were the
navy's new XFSU-1
flying flapjacks,
wbich are thin
and round, with twin propellers
and stubby
tail."
Only One XFSU-1 Built
(The navy and the manufac
turer have announced official-
ly that only
one such machine
was built and that it never left
Connecticut.
"These
planes
were flying
high, maybe 9000 feet, and fair
ly fast, about 300 or 400 miles
an hour. I first counted ten of
them in formation,
going north.
About 2:15 P.M. they returned
on the reverse course, headed
south. But there were only sev-
en in the formation.
They were not weaving
or
bobbing in formation I couldn't
make out the number or loca-
tion
of
their propellers and
couldn't distinguish any wings
or tail. They appeared
almost
round.
They looked
like
tures
Juck, oR ank navy? flying tic-
Rankin said
Rankin, who plans to
the sumer herelar ali end
Simpson street, is now
able to
resume a little flying for fun,
but not commercially,
he said
He now
operates
string of
auto courts, spending
his win-
ters at Palm Springs.
THE OREGONIAN, THURSDAY, JULY 3, 1947
"THE OREGO! IAN" Portland, Oregor.
3 July 1947
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Ладавь 20, 1947
65-480
Direeter 110
SA0 Daste
• FETING DESOS
Refez teletype to the Durem dated dugust 15, 1947.
8o have seen.
Concerning URI's sicetches, it may be noted that he belleved she
felled outer edge which he attempted to create in hindrawing to have been about
a foot through. UNIl likewise believed that the tubinh or exhaust flame which
he and his sons claim to have seen was about a foot through and extended at
least to the back end of the device. The flame did not appaaz to saper of!
not to widen out towerd the baok.
BILLY and KEITH URIS stated that they could see a knot on the side of
the device fron which the flamen were shootine, and that they coald see day-
11ght between the exhaust flane and the side of the device. The flames did not
leave any smoke or odor.
The URIE boys thought that the "side View" sketch should show shat
the device was more sharply angled fron bottom to top, while URIN hinsel!
thought that it was more streamlined and carved. UNIl said that the lastra
ment came se a polated or rounded top.
In bie setations, URI'S mistakenly seid that he had seen it on Thure-
day.
Paring interview, he stated that it actunlly had boen oz Vednesday,
dogues 18, 1947, theshe and hia sone sau the contrivance about 1100 P.N.
URI explained that he had sent his boys to the river to get some
tope from his boat. When he thought they were overdue, he went outside his
Sool shed to look br them. He notieed them about 300 feetaway looking in
the sky and he blanced up to see what he called the Dying dise. He sal d he
could only see 11 for a moment before it disappeared behind a h1l1 which
ebscured his view.
URIA further stated that the contrivance was abeus seventy-f1ve
foot in She aT. URIA resides in the depthe of the Snake River Canyon, which
do about four hundred feet deep and twelve hundred feet across at that place.
According to his account, the contrivance was about three hundred feet below
the rin of the canyon and he saw it against the steep walle of the sanyon els
the far side. He deseribed its coler as sky blue and stated that he doubted
13 1$ could be seen against the sky. He likewise said that it was purely by
chance that he saw. 11. Ital not apia like a top..
sa 115
━ PAGE 43 ━
As the machine veat by the UNIl place, the trees over which 18
almost directly passed (Hernan Pepulars) did not just bend th the wind as 11
a plane had gone l, but in Ville verde, "epun around on top an 1f they ver
In a vacuum.
KITTY URIA, eight years of ago, said he firet sew she mohine
tours of the ground. .
said thay then ran to sheir Father and learned that he deo hnd seen
the machine.
UNIA seemed completely sincere about the ineident. He said him
Wife and daughter were in the house at the time and had not seen the
muchine. He questioned hia brother, who also lives in the eanyon, but his
brother had been eating at the time and had seen nothing. URI and his
two boys maintained that they had never before seen one of the discs.
URIS, when intervieved, appeared to de a sober, middle-aged man.
Bracted Agents veta more on about eter, order l a slaboa
URI appeared completely sincere about the machine.
No further attempt was made to locate I. W. HAWKINS, Inanch
as j.
H. HORs, who was with HAWKINS at the time, was Interviewed.
BROWT's name was withheld fron the newpaper becauss HANKINS and
BROi were fishing at Salmon dame unile BROWI was supposed to have been
working in Twin Zalls.
BROMT asid simply that he and HAKKINS could hear a roar.
looked up and could see two inatruments flying at a grent height, which
BROWS mentioned might have been between few thousand and six thousand
feet. However, he said he had no idea how large the dewices were and
consequently, they nay have been several miles away. He said that he and
HAWKINS were satisfied they had seen sonething and they were very
doubtful that they had seen swo planes.
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FALLS
Regional Newspaper Serving
Tew
Nine Irrigated Idaho Cou
Member of
Associate
эрарег
TWIN FALLS, IDAHO, FRIDAY, AUGUST 15, 1947
Heads Up, Folks! The Dises Are Flying Again
10FT
-/20 PT/
114
SIDE VIEW
BOTTOM VIEW
END VIEW
This is an artist's conception of the flying dise that A. C. Urie saw
sides, and could well be the inspiration for something new in women's
sweeping through Snake river canyon six miles west of Blue Lakes
hats, such as a "flying saucer" creation. (Drawing by Vic Goertiege
ranch. It seemed to be powered by jets emitting a fiery glow on both
staff engraving)
*
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Flying Saucer Reported Flashing Down Canyon
At 1,000 Miles Per Hour; Two Others Are Seen
By JOHN BROSNAN
Just
Magic
Valley
and
the
nation
were starting to let go
of
lampposts after reeling under
welter of flying saucer reports, two
more Twin
Falls county
men
re-
vived
speculation on the
mystery
with vivid descriptions of discs they
sau
From A. C. Urie, who operates
the Auger Falls Trout
farm
miles west of Blue Lakes ranch in
Snake river canyon, came
perhaps
the most detailed account of one of
the fast-flying
objects the
nation
scription of the flying discs seen by
come concerned about what was de-
has yet produced
him and his son, Keith, 8, and Billy,
laying them, and had walked down
The flying
saucer
Urie
Sa W
was
10:
toward the river to see if they were
skimming along through Snake river
obtained
view
of
all right.
canyon at a
height
of
75
"I
close-up
about
the flying saucer as it passed by the
"I had a side view at a distance,
feet at 1 p.m. Wednesday. At 9:30
trout farm at 1 p. m. Aug. 13 going
of about 300 feet and almost on a
a. m. the same day. L. W. Hawk-
down Snake river canyon at a height
level with the
Twin Falls
of about 75 feet from the canyon
thing."
Urie con-
ins,
county
commis-
sioner and former
county
sherit!
tinued.
"Two of my boys. Keith
floor.
would estimate the
from Filer, also saw two circular
at about 1.000 miles per hour, bOn
and Billy, were below me and they
also saw it at about a 45-degree
objects
soaring
along
at
great
Urie explained that the incident
angle. They both got a bottom and
height near Salmon dam
40
miles
occurred
while the two boys were
a side view, and we were all look-
southwest of Twin Falls.
Here is
Urie's eye-witness
de-
coming
across the
river from
the
ing at it from the south side of the
north side in a boat. He had
be-
(Continued on Page 8. Column 6)
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'Saucer' Seen
Flying Down
Snake Gorge
(From Page One)
river facing toward the north. The
boys saw it coming about half a
mile up the canyon, and we all lost
sight of it in
less than a mile."
While
the
impression
was
still
vivid in their minds, the three got
together
and made rough sketches
of
what they had seen.
These, in
turn, were the basis for the
artist's
conception of the strange affair by
Vic Goertzen of Twin Falls for the
Times-News.
"It was all one color-sort of a
light sky blue with a red, tubular
fiery glow at the side of the top or
hood."
Urie continued.
"The
canyon
floor is rough at
that particular
point, and it rode
up and down over the hills and hol-
lows
at a speed indicating
type
some
of control faster than
the
reflexes of man. It is my opinion
that it is guided by instruments and
must be powered by atomic energy.
as it made very little noise-just a
s-w-l-s-h as it passed by."
Urie described the size as about
20 feet long by 10 feet high and
110 feet wide, giving it an
oblong
shape. It might be described as look-
like an
inverted
pie-plate
broad-brimmed straw hae that ad
been compressed from two
sides.
Pressed for his candid opinion of
just what it was, Urie said that he
was convinced that there was some-
thing to this flying saucer situation.
"I know a number of the people who
have
also seen.
them
and I
know
that
they're
not
just
imagining
something
or trying to
get
their
names
in
the
paper.
Urie
com-
mented.
"I do know that it scared the boys
and made me feel pretty
uneasy."
he added.
Tracing down a rumor that County
Commissioner Hawkins had seen an
unusual object in the air on
the
same day as Urie's experience, the
Times-News called him at his Filer
home.
"Yes, I did." he
replied
without
hesitation.
"I'll have to
admit
I've
been skeptical all along until I saw
with my own eyes.
I can't
say
what it was, but I can say there's
something in the air."
Hawkins related
that
while at
Salmon
dam
Wednesday
morning,
a sound resembling
the echo
of
motor caused him
to look
upward
and there he saw two circular ob-
jects that reflected light. They were
traveling
at
a
great
speed
and
higher than most airplanes, accord-
Ing to Hawkins.
Aside from this, he declined to
add details, except to say. "There's
something in the air."
His general description,
however.
corresponded
closely
those
of
hundreds of persons who reported
Seeing flying saucers after Kenneth
Boise
businessman.
touched off the deluge by telling of
coming
upon nine disc-like objects
while he
was flying in his private
plane in Washington.
Thereafter, the nation became in-
creasingly
flying
saticer
conscious.
creating a state of mind that made
it possible for four teen age
Twin
Falls boys to cause a mild sensa-
tion when they built a model flying
disc
and
tossed Into a local yard
July
10.
This
was subseuently re-
vealed as a hoax. following investi-
gation
by the army and FBI.
Thereafter
the
saucer
reports
tapered off into a few scattered in-
cidents until the question was re-
vived by this week's occurrences.
Speculation
mention
has
that
ranged
from
the discs
could
be
army or navy guided missile experi-
ments, or that they could be similar
experiments by some foreign coun-
try.
"something
out
of
this
Whatever, they are, a lot of people
have seen "something."
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CONFIDENTIAL
HEADQUARTERS
FLYING DIVISION, AIR TRAINING COMMAND
Office of the Commanding General
17
Randolph Field, Texas
10 July 1947
333.5
SUBJSCT:
Unidentifiable Objects
TOR
Commanding General
Tenth Air Force
Brooks Field, Texas
Attns ACofS, A-2
1. The inclosed MOIC is forwarded for your infornation.
2. In the event that It. B. B. Armstrong has been interviewed
by your Headquarters, request that a copy of the MOIC be furnished
to this Headquarters.
FOR THE COMMANDING GENERALS
1 Incl
MOIC
H. Lo CRISIBR
It. Colonel, G.S.C.
Asst. Chief of Staff, A-2
333.5
Ist Ind
DC
HBADQUARTERS TENTH AIR FORCE, OFFICE OF THE ASST CHIEF OF STAFE, A-2,
BROOKS FIELD, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS, 16 July 1947
Conmanding General, Flying Division, Air Training Command, Randolph
Fld., Texas
ATIN: -ABst Chief of Staff, A-2
Inclosed is Memorandun for the Officer in Charge in reference to
Lt. B. B. Armstrong, as suggested in paragraph 2, basic communication.
1 Incl
MOIC, std 15 July 47
1 Incl withdrawn
MOIC, atd 7 July 47
S.H. MORROW
colonel, GSC
Asst Chief, of Staff, A-2
nel"
CONE
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━ PAGE 47 ━
UNIDEITIFLABLE OBJECTS
Williams 7ld, Chandlez, Aris.
15 July 1947
MEMORANDUM FOR THE OFTICER IN CHARGE:
1. On 24 July 1947, let it Erie B. Armatrong, 0-2059709, 170th
AAP Base Vait, Ferry Division, Brook Pield, San Astondo, Texas me
Interviewed and the following Infernation ms obtained. I$ Arustrong
departed William 710ld, Arizona at 1400 CST on 28 June 1947 in a P-51
for Portland, Orogon, by the my of Medford, Oregon. At approximately
10,000 feet, approimtely thirty uiles northwest of Lake Moade, levade,
Lt Arastrong nighted five or six white, eiroular objecte at four orelock,
altitude approximately 6,000 feet, sourse approximately 120 degrees, am
an entinated speed of 285 MPH. Lt Armtrong seid the objeeta were Plyin
very smoothly and in a close formation, The estimted sise of the white
objecte were approximately 36 Inebee In dienter. It Armstrong stated
that he fa sure the white objests were not birds, since the rate of elesure
ms very fast. It Armtrong wa certain that the white objeete were. not
Jets or conventional type aireraft sime he has flown both types.
AGSNT'8 NOTBS s
"It Armstrong was very ainere in the explamtion and was not the
exaggerating type. He merely stated what he saw and has drawn no con-
•lusions as to what the waite objeets were.
LAwrense R. King, Jr, Spoolal Agent, GIC, ADE
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CA
HOENHAL
UNIDENTIFIABLE OBJECTS
WILLIANS PIELD, CHANDLER,
ARIZONA.
7 July 1947
MEMORANDUM FOR THE OPTICER IN CHARGE:
1. On 1 July 1947, Lt william G. MeGinty, USN, 195803, P-80
Student, w1111ans Field, Chandler, Arizons, was interviewed by
this Agent, and stated in subetance! That on 30 June 1917, i obo, in
0910, MST, he was lying at 25,000 feet over Grand Canyon,
a P-8O type aireraft. He stated that he was heading south towards W11)1ans
Pield, Arizona, when he saw two round objecte going at inconceivable
speeds, straight down. He further stated that his reactions were to
turn away from the objects. He further stated that one of the uniden-
tiflable objects followed the other seconds apart. He further stated
that due to the speed of the objects, he could only see that they were
circular, and that they were possible light gray in color. He further
stated that it was his opinion that the objects were approximately
eight feet in diameter. In conclusion, he stated that the objects
would haveprobably hit the ground approximately twenty-five miles
south of the South Rim of Grand Canyon, Arizona.
AGENT'S NOTES! Lt MeGinty gave his permanent addresa an: N.Aol,T.C•,
Point Hugu, Fort Huenene, Colle.
2. On 1 July 1947, Captain Maleolm G. Amstrong, 0-734168,
intervieed by this Agent and stated in subetance:
Instrueto?, single neine, illans Pleid, Chandler, hatrote brother,
lat Lt 5 Bo Armatrong, stationed at HQ, ZOth AAF, Brooks AAP, Texas
had related to him that he saw a formation of unexplainable objects
in the vicinity of Lake lead, Nev. Captain Amstrong, further stated
that his brother atated the objects were heading south, and were at
approximately 10,000 feet altitude.
AGENT 'S NOTES: Captain Armstrong could not eive too much infomation
on the objects that his brother had seen.
It's So B. Arnstrong can be
contacted at Hg, 10th AF, Brooke Field, Texas for further information.
sa 38K
MN
Lynn C. Aldrich, Special Agent, CIC-AAP, DIRC
THIS, IS A TRUE COPY
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━ PAGE 49 ━
Prela
C6
Unidentifiable Objeots.
• 333.5 1D (16 Jul 47)
Ist Ind.
HQ AIR DEFENSE COMMAND, Mitchel Pield, New Tors, 21 JuLy 1947.
TO: Conmanding General, Argy Air Porces, Washington 25, D. C.
ATTN: AC/AS-2.
1. Farwarded for your information and utilization.
FOR THE COMMANDING GENERAL:
Info cy:
cG, АнС,
Wright Fid,
Dayton, 0.
4 2 Incle:
n/ c
Colonel, Gsc at. Cal. At.
Asst Chief of Staff-Intell•
see 130
$177
+ 0
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ni dents table Obfeet!
333.5 I)
7(16 Jul 47)
Lat Ind
NO AIR DEFENSE COMUND, Mitchel Field, Now Tons, 21, JuLy 1947.
10₽
omanding General, Arsy Afr Forces, Washington 25, D. C
TTN: AC/A8-2
1. Forwarded for your infomation and utilization.
POR THE COMZANDING GENISRALE
Into eys
Co, ANG,
Weight Pid,
Dayton, 0.
2 Incla:
n/c
R. M. SMITH
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CON
AL
HEADQUARTERS
TENTH AIR FORCE
BROOKS FIELD, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS
Office of the Assistant Chief of Staff, A-2
IN REPLY REFER TO:
DC 333•5
16 July 1947
SUBJECT: Unidentifiable Objects
TO:
Commanding General
Air Defense Commund
W1tchel Field, lew York
ATTI: Asst Chief of Staff, À=2
Inclosed herewith for your infornation is investigation rolative
to Unidentifiable Objects which was initiated at leadquarters, Flying Divi-
sion, Air Treining Connand, Randolph Field, Texas. This Office assisted,
as noted in Inclosure 2, by completing a Memorandum for the fficer in
Charge •
2• lio further action is contemplated by this leadquarters concorning
investigation of this incident.
2 Inels:
1. NOIC dtd 7 July 47
2• Ltr, FDATC, w/1 Ind
and 1 Incl, NOIC, ato
15 July 1947
Colonel, GSC
Asst Chief of Staff, A-2
621-9
21 JUL 1947
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To: (G, 44F (ATTN AL/AS-2 )
FROM: DIR. OF INTEL. DATE 5 AUR 47
MAJ FISHER /79738
2636 Magnolia Ave.,
Los Angeles, Calif.
August 1
1947
Director of Military Intellegence,
War Departmant, Washington 25, D.C.
Dear Sir:
on sunday afternoon, July the sixth, I observed something very
strange ; it is related -- at least in my own mind-- with the
phenomena of the "Fabulous Flying Saucers and I cannot report on
this second phemonena, without speaking of the first.
As I do not wish to be considered the victim of mass psychology,
a crack-pot or visionary, it is rather hard for me to make this
report. I am doing it because I consider it my duty.
A newspaper article spoke of the Bureau of Standards as "Having a
finger in the pie " in many experiments so not knowing where to
write or who to write to - wrote to the Bureau,
and Mr. Hugh L. Dryd-
en has suggested that you were the one to report to.
I had been amused at accounts of the " flying saucers". Everyone
was talking, laughing and joking about themand I did not believe
in them •
The Hollywood Tarzana Bus was parked at the Tarzana end of the line
and the driver was busy making out his reports preparatory to making
the return trip./ I was the only one in the bus and I sat in the
middle of the side next to Ventura, so the bus was parked north and
southe
As I looked to my right, a "saucer appeared out of nowhere appar-
ently out of nowhere and it was followed by several others ; they
were of uniform size and spaced at regular intervals and it seemed
as if they turned a corner from the west and they rolled along
at great speedto the Northward and parkallel toVentura Boulevard •
As soon as I becameconvinced that what I saw was not an illusion
but what every one was talking about I began to study them and it
was right then that my eyes seemed to be drawn to this other phenoma
in the air between me and the "Saucers".
What I saw was milky white rays in the sunlight that seemed to cris
cross like the search lights do at tight ; it was nothing like the
sun shining on some bright object for the rays were not spaced and
they were not so close together and they cris crossed. However, they
did seem to converge toward a center but they did not meet there .
this center -- a radious of about eighteen inches it seemed
from, I sat, there were spinning objects di some red substance
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about the color of the semi- precious stone Cornelian: these
fragments were sharp and irregular and shing. They were flying
about as l1 Ilying to a magnet • this was momentary and I looked
to see if the "Saucers" were still there. I saw one or two but
a second • By this time the "Saucers were out of sight.
All the way hope I was trying to find sone logical explanation for
the
"Saucers" but my mind kept reverting to the second phenomena
and as I dwelt on it I could not help surmising if perhaps these
rays I saw did not come out of the red fragments that were spinning
in the vortex. I couldnt help wondering if this substance had been
shot from the
way to the "orth/.
As our army would not be shotins deadly rays over toward a very
croweded highway and as this whole thing seems fantastic to say
the least, I thought I had better trust some ones Judgement who
really knows what is going onand so you have my report on what
- really saw, and what I an very curious about.
Thanks to ME. Dryden for his courtesy in letting me know just
who to relate this incident do, and thanks to you for listening
and I hope that it makes the right kind of impression.
Sincerely yours,
M. Lenore Corey
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.. MOOCAMA FORM NO. B-806
SI MAY 1948
APN/KDS/eb
OKLAHOMA CITY AIR MATERIEL AREA
TINKER FIELD
OKLAHOMA CITY. OKLAMOMA
IN REPLY REFER TOL
#372h-I
30 July 1947
MENORANDUM FOR THE SECURITY OFFICER, OCANA
Subject: DAN NELSON, Attorney-at-law, 926 Perrine Building,
Oklahoma City, Oklahoma.
Re:
Flying Saucer Mystery Solved.
On 30 July 1947 DAN NELSON was interviewed at his office, 926 Perrine
Building, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, relative to his alleged solving of the
Flying Saucer Mystery.
Subject, whose age is 53, is at present engaged in practicing law and
is the agent for the Dual Parking Meter Company•
Subject advised he is
married and has two sons, ages seven and ten, residing at 2613 N.W. l4th
Street, Oklahoma City, Oklahona. Nelson stated he was a sergeant in World
War I, being wounded in action while serving with Company L, 58th Infantry,
and that before entering the service he had an eighth grade education. After
leaving the service he finished his education and graduated from the University
of Oklahoma in 1929• He advised that since 1929 he has practiced general
Lar in both Norman and Oklahoma City, Oklahoma.
Subject stated he notified the War Department by letter on 19 July
1947, advising them of his discoveries concerning the Flying Saucer Mystery.
He received an answer dated 23 July 1947 advising him his letter had been
referred to the Air Forces.
NELSON stated he heard no more fron the War
Department as of 29 July 1947, at which time he released his statement tc
the "Daily Oklahoman," Oklahoma City local newspaper.
Subject advised the basis for his theory concerning the Flying Saucer
Mystery was obtained from simple experiments which he conducted while driving
his automobile. NELSON stated he believed that many people had seen lights
or shining objects cast onto their windshields and side ventilator windows
of their automobile and reflected as a saucer or disc shaped object. He
stated that the movement of the automobile, plus the fact that the glass was
not a perfect airror and passing objects could be seen in relation to the
objecte gave them an appearance of great speed.
Subject advised that the vibration of the car gave the objects an
appearance of rotating and that the reflections caused them to appear flat
or saucer shaped. NELSON stated that any number of objects might be seen
according to the direction that the car is traveling and the number of bright
objects being reflected onto the window. He further stated that these objects
might be seen in an ordinary window in a house according to the lighting
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conditions, and that the objects might be either vertical or horizonal. The
subject related that any change in speed of the car resulted in a change in
the secto
speed of the object, and that changes of direction resulted in a change in
or diete out ho
true in relation to flying saucers seen from aircraft.
Attached hereto is a detailed statement by NELSON covering his findings
and explaining his solution to the so-called Flying Saucer Kystery.
talman D. Simon
KALMAN D. SIMON
c.I., U.S. Army
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FLYING SAUCER MYSTERY SOLVED
July 12, 1947.
The most impressive reports of the so-called flying
saucers or dises were those from aviators who claim they
saw disc-shaped objects flying through the air in various
formations at high altitudes and at a high rate of speed.
The first report was from an aviator who stated that these
so-called flying discs had a somewhat shiny appearance and
would fly in formation and change their position from time
to time. Most reports stated that they appeared in the late
afternoon or about dusk.
Most all reports were to the effect that these objects
had the appearance of an inverted dise or saucer, and some
of them reported that they appeared to be rotating in their
flight.
The mystery of the flying saucers or dises may be sol-
ved by the use of a little applied science along with a
few simple experiments.
These flying discs or saucers can be observed by any
motorist traveling along the highways when the sun is
shining on most any afternoon or evening. During the day-
light most of these so-called flying discs are reflections
from the sun shining upon some bright object in or on the
automobile driven by the observer. For instance, if you
were driving in a north-westerly direction with the sun
shining on the handle of the front or rear door on the left
side of the car, you may notice a shiny object appear in the
ventilation wing of the window on the drivers left, if it is
opened to about a 45º angle.
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These shiny objects may have wrious forms and there may
be more than one, depending on the number of reflections.
They may appear to be in the sky when the driver looks through
the ventilation wing glass. Their position in the sky depends
upon the angle at which the object is reflected in the ven-
tilation wing and the position of the observer. They may have
various forns but very frequently they are of a saucer shape
or a flat shape when they appear to be in the sky.
The ventilation wing during day-light is not of course
a perfect mirror, therefore, it appears to the driver or ob-
server that he is actually looking through the glass into the
sky• As he moves along, the bright objects appear to be
traveling at a high rate of speed in comparison with the
stationary objects on the ground, or the distant horizon, that
he sees through the window, or in comparison with the faintly
silhouetted objects on the landscape which at times are re-
flected in the window.
The flying saucer appears to be traveling in the same
general direction as the automobile but sometimes a little to
the right which makes it appear that it will eventually cross
the drivers path.
The apparent flight direction of the
saucer is due to the angle of the ventilation wing glass in
its relation to the direction in which the car is traveling.
The number and position of the saucers refleêted in the glass
depend upon the number and contour of objects reflected there-
in by the sun. Bright objects on a car approaching from the
rear may cast such reflections on your ventilation wing in
the daytime.
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If the ventilation wing window wero a perfect mirror the
objects causing the reflections would appear therein, as well as
all other objects within range, but the ventilation wing being
a sort of a semi-mirror, does not reflect the object but only
the bright spot, which leaves the impression that the observer
is actually looking through the glass and that the object act-
ually appears to be in the sky, or at times a long distance
away. These results are best obtained in the late afternoon,
or after sun down.
The aviators who reported seeing flying discs or saucers,
undoubtedly were seeing the reflection of bright objects in or
on their own plane. They saw them as reflected in their canopy
or wind shield, but failed to recognize them as reflections.
Otherwise they were reflections from other air craft.
. As the aviator traveled along observing the movement of
the disc in comparison with the mountains, clouds or station-
ary objects on the earth, made them appear to be traveling at
a high rate of speed. The sloping angle of the aviators
wind-shield and his position in the plane made it appear that
the dises were in the sky. The position of the dises also
depend upon the position of the observer and the angle at which
they are reflected in the glass.
Some of the reports stated that where there were more
than one flying disc, they appeared to be fastened together
and frequently performed a dipping or rising motion and when
one would dip, they would all go through the same motion sim-
ultaneously. The simultaneous movement is due to the reflect-
ions all coming from the same object. For instance, if they
(3)
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are reflected from some bright object in or on the car or plane,
the up and down motion of the car or plane causes the flying
discs to appear to be going through a dipping and rising motion,
or, if the reflecting object is stationary and the car moving,
the results will be the same.
The statement that the discs appeared to be rotating as
they sailed through the atmosphere is due to the vibration of
the automobile or plane. Vibrations make them appear to be
rotating at a very high rate of speed. Vibration is what gives
them a flat or disc-like shape also.
If you wish to see some flying discs, make a drive at about
dusk or at night, open your ventilation wing window at about a
45° angle from the drivers seat and watch the reflections of
the stationary electric lights that appear on your left, if you
are driving, after you pass them, and see how many discs you can
observe flying through the air. If there are not too many lights
to your rear, you may have a perfect formation of beaufiful
flying discs which may be red, green or silver according to
the color of the electric lights which you have passed. They
appear most realistic when traveling about forty-five or fifty
miles per hour. If you do not get satisfactory results from
your first experiments, try again. After you have learned
when and where to look for them, your observations become more
pleasing and interesting.
Even the lights of an approaching automobile from your
rear may appear as one flying dise in your ventilation wing.
The reflections of the approaching lights will appear in your
ventilation wing unless the side of your car protrudes out so
far as to prevent the light beam from shining on the wing.
(4)
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These appear best when the approaching car is some distance
away, perhaps a quarter or half a mile. The results at night
may not be as impressive as those in the late afternoon because
at night your ventilation wing window makes a more perfect
mirror and the passing landscape is not as pronounced, therefore,
the reflections therein are more easily detected as reflections.
In the late afternoon, however, you have a feeling that you are
actually looking through the glass and the reflected objects
appear more real. The sun shining on a bright ring on your fin-
ger with your hand resting on the steering wheel may cast disc-
like reflections in your wind shield. The form of the reflect-
ion will depend upon the ornamental decorations on your ring.
The rear door handle on my automobile reflects nine beau-
tiful, little, silver, flying discs in the bright sun-light.
These appear in the lower part of the ventilation wing and when
traveling on a level highway, they appear to be racing along
with me at the road side. These nine discs appear in a form-
ation of two rows of four each, with the ninth one in the lead
at the center of the formation. They appear as whirling pro-
pellers in a vertical position. These discs also have stream-
ers which are due to the curveture and decorative pattern on
the handle. While traveling north in the early afternoon under
a bright sun, these nine discs appeared far below to my left,
racing up the valley at a terrific rate.
You may be able to see flying dises in your own home.
If you will turn on a small electric light in the hall-way
and then bok through the window at the other end of the hall,
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you may see as many as three flying discs from one electric
light bulb, which may have more or less of a bell shape. These
dises many times appear as inverted saucers, and if you will
change your position slowly you will see that they change their
position also. These are best observed in the late afternoon
or between sun down and dusk, when it appears to you that you
are merely looking through the window pane at the discs sus-
pended in the distance. As darkness comes on, the window pane
becomes a more perfect mirror and your dises appear as reflect-
ions in a mirror.
To watch the dises, through your ventilation wing, sail
along with you as you drive through the country, becomes very
fascinating, especially if you use a little imagination. It
may absorb your thoughts completely, therefore, I would admon-
1sh automobile drivers watching the flying discs, to be cautious
and not run off the road or into some other car.
Some of the reports on flying saucers, heretofore not ex-
plained in this article, such as those reported seeing bright
flashes in the sky, were no doubt reflected sun-light from
planes. These light beams chanced to cross the line of vision
of the observer.- They frequently appear very brilliant and
may more or less blind the observer for an instant. If the
plane is very high it may not be seen by the observer, which
may be due to impaired vision or the great height at which
the plane is flying. We very often get these same blinding
flashes from automobile wind-shields, Many of the reports
around July 4th. were incited by various forms of fire works.
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5
Some reports stenmed from pure imagination or hysteria, while
others were deliberate hoaxes. Any other reports can be ex-
plained if all the surrounding facts are known.
Most all of the reports and descriptions of the flying
saucers coincide so clearly with the findings herein, that
there could be no doubt but that we have the correct solution.
The foregoing statement may not be coached in precise
scientific terms, and may not be scientifically exact, how-
ever, we believe it is so worded that the average layman can
understand it and that it is sufficiently correct to prove
the proposition.
Personally, I do not believe that the so-called flying
saucers or the solution thereof, are of any military value,
unless the Government wished to retain this infornation for
the psychological effect upon any potential enemy nation,
such as Germany did in regard to their so-called secret
weapons during the war.
Dan Nelson
Кавита City.
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8
Code 110A
NRL
7 August 1947
MEMORANDUM
SUBJECT: "Flying Saucers"
TO:
Asst Chief of Air Staf1-2
Collection Branch, AAP
Washington 25, D. C.
1. The inelosure is an excerpt from a letter to
Dr. E. Tousey, Micron Waves Section Head, Naval Research Labora-
tory, from Mr. John Y. Cole, pertaining to some unidentified objecte
which Mr. Cole reports to have seen some time prior to the firet
reports of "flying saucers" in the New England area.
2.
Dr. Tousey states that Mr. Cole is a well-known astronomer
and a reliable observer as e result of his training.
3. The inclosure is in addition to information contained
in previous letters to your office taken from interviews at the
request of It. Col. G. D. Garrett, AAF A-2.
1 Inel.
Excerpt fm ltr to
Dr. Tousey 2
P. Thelle
WILLIAM P. MELLEN
Major, Air Corps
AMC Liaison Officer
Naval Research Laboratory
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Cupy.
Excerpt from letter to Dr. R. Tousey from
Mr. John F. Cole
South Brookeville, Me,
July. 28, 1947.
Having in mind the ridicule which has been heaped on those innocent
or perhaps gullible individuals who have reported disks, I would be a little
cautious in interpreting.
But it is safe to say truthfully, that something
unusual attracted my attention, and I was in a perfectly sober, condition,
barring the mild stimulation, afforded by cool spring water filtering through
North Haven greenstone cracks. It should be easy to determine if the "disks"
were a new type jet plane, or bomber, or rocket. The fact that it was July
3, about 2:30 P.M. (summer time) or Greenwich Civil time 1830 might suggest
that they were engaged in some naval demonstration from Eastport, Ber Harbo
or Belfast. The group appeared to be at an altitude of about 50° -- I suffe
from a mild cervical arthritis--but my eyes are well corrected for astigna-
tian and hypermetropia, and I doubt if my cerebral cortical Lesions are suffic-
lently advanced to affect my balance.
usually loud roar and I was surprised not to see a well defined group of planes
quite near. Instead I had to look rather sharply to see the bunch of very
light colored objects, in a general northerly direction and travelling roughly
This was reasonably correct, as I was on Cox'e
hill, and looked over towards Backwood'e Mount, that is the conspicuous flat
tep planated hill at Harborside. The group could hardly have covered more
than 1j° angular diameter in the sky, and bunched rather closely with no
regular formation. There might have been 10, I couldn't say and with 90' of
arc spread, would easily be within the limit of visibility for discreet ob-
jects. As a group they were going so as to cover 30º of arc, estimated of
course, in perhaps 10 or 15 seconds. If one of them, say, subtended 1/10°.
with a possible wing spread of 100 feet, it would put it at a distance of
over 10 miles, and quite invisible for a light object. Besides, with 30°
arc of travel at a 10 ml. distance would be roughly 5 miles in 15 seconds
or 20 ml. per minute or 1200 ml. per hour!!--rather fast for a bomber--hi.
A 50 ft. object, at 5 miles dist. would be about 600 ml. per hr.--also fast
going. The only concrete evidence of forn appeared on the left tangent of
the group--two dark shaped forms:
Doesn't the Douglass bomber have these? And since they were in no regular
formation, but seemed among themselves to be moving irregularly like a swarm
of bees, why shouldn't all of them have shown winge? The loud roar suggeste
they may have been much closer, and rather small. The sky background was
hazy blue, and the sun behind me. One plane towing a lot of balloons, I
believe, would have been easily recognized.
Havy any meteorites been re-
ported? At that time of day, has there been any abrupt change of radio field
strength? or ionization?
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OFFICE OF THE AIR INSPECTOR
25 JULY 1947
MEMORANDUM. TO: AC/AS-2, Counter Intelligence Branch
1. Information contained herein and opinions expressed are based
upon conversation with and request by Mr. Butler of your office.
pertain to certein phenonema connected with recent widespread talk of
"flying saucers".
2. Approximately three weeks ago, on or about 7 July 1947, I
prepared to go to bed around 2230 or 2300 EDT. I was living at
North Glebe Road, Arlington, Virginia, with my wife. Illustration No. 1
shows the general layout of the room we occupied at that time. See
Illustration No. 1.
RADIO
DESK
Mutation →,
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3. I had just turned off the light by my bedside, but sat down
on the side of the bed to listed to the end of a radio program before
reclining. In the meantime, my wife and I were having some conversa-
tion about the selection of certain furniture for a home we had just
purchased. At the time of these events, as I sat facing the windows,
a light appeared at the right-hand edge of the extreme and window and
moved rapidly along to disappear below the trees or horizon, or to be
extinguished in some fashion at some place in a general southerly
direction.
This is illustrated on the following page by a very tenta-
tive sketch. See Illustration No. 2..
X
32. ¾ mile
divetin.
Lies append in si listen
Peti
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4. At the time, since my attention was divided and absorbed among
the subjects mentioned, my reaction was simply that "a light passed by,"
and I gave no further thought to the matter until some moments later,
when the thought came to me that I had never seen such an object before,
and that although the first explanation would have been that a meteor had
fallen toward earth in that direction, it did not have the appearance of
any meteor or "shooting star" I had ever seen. Thinking of the then-
prevalent talk of flying disks, I reflected that probably some such
thing as I had just seen was the source of a large amount of newspaper
and radio publicity on the subject. The next morning I jestingly
announced in the office that I saw a flying saucer the night before and
live.
general topic for some time, I dropped the subject, not wishing to add
to the supposed rumors, which I envisioned as a source of serious panic
over the country.
5. A description of the light, or objeot is almost impossible,
since observation of it was so limited. As shown in Illustration No. 2,
the object appeared to pass in closest proximity to me at the time it
came into view. All of my mental calculations were based upon some
impression or conception of 1ts distance at the closest point, (AC)•
I had no way of judging this, except in the form of very crude depth-
perception. If this by any chance were correct, and instead of a dis-
tant meteor some object had passed near-by, I would assume for purposes
of description that the distance AC on the sketch was some three quarters
of a mile. One factor which I could judge quite reliably was the angular
elevation. This must have been approximately 3 or 4 degrees; at any
rate, the light was internittently behind the tallest trees forward of
my position as it passed, and these trees are of a normal height, perhaps
sixty or eighty feet at a distencel several blocks.
Based upon a mild
assumption as to distance, and a reasonable assumption as to angular
elevation, the object would be at a low altitude, considerably below
500 feet, and of a size approximating a small airplane, say 30 feet
across.
The shape may have been round, oval, discal, or irregular; at
the speed with which it travelled, I could only perceive it as a "blob."
I do not consider the distance mentioned to be less than 3/4 milo,
because had it been, I feel sure that, late in the evening and with all
my windows open, I would have heard some sound, which I definitely did
not in this case. It might be well to point out here the relative
similarity in size, altitude and airspeed of a firefly at a distance of
30 feet, an airplane at about 3/4 mile, and a neteor at several hundred
miles.
Most of us are familiar with this illusion.
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6. Although I could not accurately judge the time, I seem to
recall the object or light was visible for a couple of seconds.
Taking this figure literally and applying it to the sketch, No. 2,
one could roughly compute the speed of the object at 1350 mph; however,
I did not sense that it was moving with such great speed as this. It
rather appeared to move with the speed of a jet-powered airplane. It
did not deviate from a straight course while I observed it, and did not
perceptibly lose altitude.
7. In color, the subject had the appearance of a reflected white
light, a cool, bright white light with no red in it, like the moon on
clear night. There was no train visible to me, in the form of fire,
smoke, or sparks. The weather at the assumed time and date was checked
through records of the Bolling Field weather office, and consisted of
scattered to broken clouds with visibilities of 10 - 12 miles. The cloud
condition is further indication that the object was not necessarily a
meteor, since it might have been impossible to see a meteor. I do not
personally remember the weather condition, except that I am sure it was
not raining•
8. At the time of this occurrence, I was not inclined to think of
it seriously enough to wake my wife and describe it to her, nor by any
reasoning to make official report. As time passed, I thought considerably
about the fleeting glimpse I had of whatever I saw, and am still somewhat
confused, but feel that it was some natural phenomenon which oceurs but
rarely.
I have flown approximately 2500 hours during the pasts seven
years and being generally familiar with aspects of aviation san emphati-
cally state that (a) it was no weather balloon, (b) it was not the flash of
a beacon on the cloud-base, (c) it could hardly have been an airplane on
fire, since it would have at least crashed in this general area, (d) it
was not entirely a result of imagination, and (e) it was not spending
much time in one place.
tall
JAMES 0. COBB
Lt Colonel, Air Corps
5-9
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ADDRESS REPLY TO
DIRÉCTOR, NAVAL RESEARCH LABORATORY
WASHINGTON 20, D.C.
AND REFER TO:
Code 110
ARMY LIAISON OFFICE
NAVY DEPARTMENT
NAVAL RESEARCH LABORATORY
WASHINGTON 20, D. C.
Bex -
28 July 1947
SUBJECT: Flying Saucers
TO:
Asst. Chief of Air Staf1-2
Collection Branch, AAJ
Washington 25, D. C.
Supplemental to that contained in a letter to your office,
dated 18 July 1947, re interview with Mr. C. H. Zohn who purports
to have seen an unidentified flying object, the following additional
Information vas obtained on 21 July from C. C. Rockwood, who was mentioned
in that letter an having also seen the object.
C. C. Rockwood reports the object to have been either a silvery
sphere of disc, which he would have taken to be a meteorological balloon
except for the fact that it was travelling at a much higher veloeity
than the automobile and approximately in the same direction. The auto-
mobile was moving about 60 uph. There was little, 11 any, surface wind.
When f1rst seen at an elevation of about 45° it appeared about of
the same size as the sun. He could hear nothing above the noise of the
car. Ly saw no smoke or contrails.
Its motion vas apparently all horizontal. It aspect did not change
so far as could be observed during the time of observation. He thought
it disappeared by simply becoming too small to see.
Stillean P. Melle
WILLIAM P. MELLEN
Major, Air Corps
AMC Liaison Officer
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This is en unparaphrased code (cypher) message. Text must be perephrased
if essential to retransmit it in another systen or to comunicate its con*
tente to persons outside British or U.S. Governent Services. One-time
pad ressages are excepted from this rule.
JOINT COM UNICATIONS OFFICE
9421
1508/1.
IN MESSAGE
T.0.0: 080800 Aug- 1947
REC'D: 1200 EDT 9th Aug.
SECRET
SECRET
FROM:
TO:
A.M. LONDON
FAFDEL
CYPHER. MESSAGE
AIX 6328
Rug. 8th 1947
Your AIX 14 July 29th.
During normal night flying practice at 2230 hours on 16th
January, 1947, one of our Mosquitos was vectored on to an unidentified
aircraft at 22,000 feet. A long chase ensued commencing over the North
Sea about 50 miles fron the Dutch coast end ending at 2300 hours over
Norfolk. Two brief AI contrets were mede but faded quickly. The un-
identified afro't appeared to take efficient controlled evasive action.
2.
No explanation of this incident has been fortheoming nor
has it been repeated.
ACTION COPY
I..C.M.
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C.I.O. (Action)3
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62-83894-130
FLYING DISCS
30 July 1947
For purposes of analysis by AFBIR-CO, eighteen reported sightings
of "Flying Discs" were selected for breakdown into detailed particulars. Each
report was assigned a number and each number appears in the left-hand column
of the data on the following pages.
One report, Number 7, has not yet been received and therefore no
information is included other than Date, Name of Observer, and Location. The
Fourth Air Force is attempting to secure a statenent from this observer.
Four reports, Numbers 2, 4, 17, and 18, have not been analyzed.
The subject headings on which the breakdown has been made are:
Date
Hour (Local standard Time)
Location
Observer's Name
Observer's Occupation
Observed from Ground or Air
Number of Objects Sighted
Altitude
Direction of Flight
Speed
Distance Covered
Length of Time in sight
Deviation from straight Flight
Color
Size
Shape
Sound
Trail
Weather
Manner of Disappearance
Remarks
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Report
Number
Dete
22
22
24
28
29
*Hour
1215
1130
2120
1330
2015
1345
1145
1430
1550
2330
1600
1830
Location
Manitou Springs, Colorado
Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
Greenfield, Massachusetts
Mt. Rainier, washington
Maxwell Field, Alabama
Nera white Sands, lew Mexico
Bekersfield, California
Ennett, Idaho
Clay Center, Kansas
Fairfield-Suisun, California
Koshkonong, wisconsin
East Troy, Wisconsin
Mt. Baldy, California
Grand Falls, Newfoundland
Harmon Field, Newfoundland
Elmendorf Field, Alaska
*Local Standard Time
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Report
Number
1
6
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
Observer's Name
D. A. Houser
F. J. Smith
L. D. Jamison
Byron Savage
E. L. DeRose
Kenneth Arnold
Wilson H. Kayko
John H. Cantrell
Redman
Theodore Dewey
C. H. Zohn
J. R. Kauke
C. C. Rockwood
Nancy Rockwood
Richard Rankin
E. J. Smith
Ralph stevens
A. B. Browning
Jas. H. Burniston
Not Stated
"
Not Stated
"t
Alvin E. Moorman
Iric Kearsey
Mr. Wehrman
Mr. Woodruff
Grahm
and several other officers
Occupation
Railroad Employee
"
Businessman-Pilot
*Not stated
Business-man Pilot
Captain, AF
"
Ist Lieut., ANF
Enployee, NIL
"
"
Wife of C.C. Rockwood
Civilian Pilot
United Air Lines Pilot
"
"
" Co-Pilot
Major, AAP
Captain, AAF
CAP Instructor
CAP Student
CAF Pilot
CAP Passenger
Ist Lieut., ACCNG
Constable, Newfoundland
Constabulary
THA Representative
PAA
Major, AAF
Observed
Fronn
Ground
"
"
Ground
Ground
Air
11
Ground
Air
"
Air
Ground
Air
Air
Air
Ground
Ground
Ground
*From letter received, observer
is obviously well educated.
2
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Report
Number
1
3
Deviation from
Straight light
Climbed, dove, hovered overhead, re-
sumed original course
None reported
6
Zig zag course "much like a water-
bug"
None reported
None reported
9
10
11
12
13
15
16
None reported
None reported
Descended edgewise, stopped at 4,000'
and assumed horizontal position. Fro-
ceeded in horizontal flight for 15
seconds, stopped again, then disapp-
eared
None reported
None reported
None reported
None reported
Followed contours of mountains five
miles away from observers
5
Color
Silver
silver, very
bright
Brilliance
slightly great-
er than a star
some solar spec-
ular reflection
Almost dusk;
could not dis-
tinguish
Very bright and
silvery colored
Reflection from
sun
Not stated
Not stated
Of light-reflec-
ting nature
Phosphorous
color
silvery
Resembled a
grayish balloon
size
Apparently small
Sma 11
Not stated
Not stated
Impossible to
determine
30-50' in diameter
Comparable to a
C-54 at 10,000'
Not stated
Not stated
Apparent depth of
a P-51
Not stated
Same span as a
C-54 at 10,000'
Approx. 10' in
di amet or
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Report
Number
1.
3
5
6
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
Shape
No definite shape could be
determined
Irregular; round, Dis not
appear particularly disc-
shaped
None stated; seemed like
a bright light
No details other than that
shape was uniform with no
protuberances
None definite, but seemed
flat on base with the top
slightly rough in contour
Round, disc-shaped
No shape could be disting-
uished
Not stated, but report re-
fers to "saucer" several
times
Same as Report No. 1l
Flat object, of light-ro-
flecting nature which appear-
ed to be without vertical
fin or any visible wings
Es8-shaped, or like barrel
head
Circular in shape, like
wagon wheel
Resembled balloon
Sound
None
None
None
None
None
None
None
None
None
None
None
None
None
Ira1l
Vieather
None
CAVU
None
Not stated
None
Posaible vapor CAVU
trails
Clear moonlight
None
CAVU
None
None
None
None
None
CAVU
junny
CAVU
CAVU
Not stated
None
Bluish black
trail approx.
15 mi. long
None
CAVU
Clear with scat-
tered cumulus
at 8 to 10,000'
Not stated
LY
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This image contains all the
information on the document.
Report
Number
1
Manner of
Disappearance
Climbed very fast and out of sight
3
Obscured by a cloud bank
5
Lost in brilliancy of the moon
6
Cannot explain, except that reflec-
tion angle may have changed abruptly
7
9
Don't know whether they put on a tre
menduous burst of speed, or disinteg-
rated. However, they did disappear into
sunset
Unexplained
10
11
12
13
14
15
Disappeared at an angle of about 30°
above the earth's surface
Unexplained
Unexplained
Pilot (at 300MPH) attempted to keep
object in sight, but unable to do so
Unexplained
Unexplained
16
Not stated
7
Remarks
No definite shape could be determi
and even with the aid of 4 to 6 pc
er binoculars object could not be
brought into focus
Fron letter this observer wrote, i
is obvious he is a well-educated
person. Seeks no publicity.
Observers (2 rated, 2 air intell.)
phoned Field Ops to ascertain no
scheduled experimental a/c were in
vicinity. Sky chart attached to re
Observer is Admin. Asst. in the Roc
et Sonde ject. of NiL. Two other
"scientists", and wife of one, wer
in party and made same observation
Observers were Pi'ot, Co-pilot, of
scheduled UAL DC-3. Stewardess als
saw objects. Suggest reading of ve
detailed statements.
When first sighting object near ho
izon, observer looked at chart in
his lap to check position. When he
looked out windon again, object wa:
off his left wing at 1l o'clock
Rolled from side to side 3 times i:
its path across the sky. Sun refle
ed from top side, but never from w
erside, even when turning
None
None
Observer contacted bases in area w
reported no a/c in air at time
First 4 discs flying line-a-trail
Seemed to cut clouds open as it
passed thru. Trail was like beam
seen after a high-powered landing
light is switched off.
Object was observed paralleling th
course of a C-47 then landing•
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HEADQUARTERS FIFTEENTH A R FORCE
Colorado Springs, Colorado
2. July 1947
SUBJECT: Supersonic Platters
SUMMARY OF INFORMATION:
The following information was related to Counter Intelligence Corps
Personnel at Headquarters Fifteenth Air Force, Colorado Springs, Colorado on
27 June 1947 by Mr D. A. hauser, 24 North Chesnut Street, Colorado Springs
Colorado, Mr. F. j. Smiti, 24 rairview, Manitou Springs, Colorado and Mir. L.
D. Jamison, 2415 Vest Kiowa, Colorado Springs, Colorado. All three of the
men are empolyees of the Pikes Peak Railwy, Manitou Springs, Colorado.
"On or about 19 kay 1947 during their lunch period (121-1315) a men-
ber of a train crew called attention to a silver object in the sky approaching
from tre North Bast. It appeared to Le travelling at a great speed. All
three men stated that the altitude of the object was very difficult to deter-
mine because of its apparent smallness. They further stated that because of
this it was difficult to view the object as being large and having high
altitude or small and being at a relatively low altitude.
They did say though
that it appeared to be higher than the top of lanitou Mountain which is over
1000 feet higher than the shops which are situated at its base. No definate
Bape of the object could be determined and even with the aid of binoculars it
still could not be brought into focus. The binoculars used were of about 4 to
6 power•
The men stated that they were cer ain that the object did not have
any of the physical characteristics of modern conventional aircraft.
The day was discribed as being clear and sunny with not a cloud in the
sky andano ground wind.
On reaching the area just North of lanitou Moutain the object remained
in the immediate area for several minutes during which time it was seen to
execute manuvers such as climbing, diving and reversal of direction of flight.
This happened every few seconds.
The distance and location between views
prompted two of the men to think that there, were more of the unidentified
objects in the sky. At times the object seened to hoveer in the air and then
start on another path of flight. When last seen tre silver object was climb-
ing very fast towards the liest almost directly into the wind.
Previous distribution:
Evalutation
None
of source
of information
DISTRIBUTION:
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1 vc/ 1
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MOOCAMA FORM NO.
8-506
31 MAY 1948
OKLAHOMA CITY AIR MATERIEL AREA
TINKER FIELD
OKLAHOMA CITY. OKLAHOMA
IN REPLY REFER TOI
#3724-I
OCAPN/KDS: cp
24 July 1947
MEMORANDUM TO THE SECURITY OFFICER, OCAMA, TINK R FIELD.
SUBJSCT: BYRON E. SAVAGE, Field Engineer, Radio Corporation of
America, Dallas,
Texas. (Residence: 416 N. W. 29th Street,
Oklahoma City, Oklahoma.)
RE:
Flying Disc.
On 23 July 1947, BYRON B. SAVAGE was interviewed at his residence,
416 N. W. 29th Street, Oklahoma City, Cklahoma, relating to his alleged
viewing of a flying disc over the vicinity of Oklahoma City, Oklahoma.
Subject, whose age is 38, advised he is married and nas one child,
and is presently the holder of a Private Pilot's License, No. 39101,
(Single Engine, Land). Subject averred he has extensively studied electron-
sound engineering and aeronautics, and his present occupation, which is
Field Engineer for Radio Corporation of America, offices of which are
located in Dallas, Texas, is that of installing theater sound equipment.
SAVAGE stated that between the days 17 May to 21 May 1947, Just after dusk,
he observed an object which he believed to be a small aircraft in the south.
SAVAGE advised that the sun had just gone down and the moon had not arisen
on the horizon. SAVAGE related that he and his wife had just departed
their residence and had started to enter their car in the driveway at
416 N. W. 29th Street, Oklahoma City. He judged the time to be between
8:30 p.m. and 9:00 p.m., and the lights from the city of Oklahoma City
appeared to be shining on this object when he first saw it. He judged the
object to be about 160° in the south when he first saw it, and as it moved
toward him he remarked to his wife that "a big white plane was coming over."
SAVAGE stated that when this object was at a 45° angle from him, he
realized it was not a conventional type aircraft, and it appeared elliptical
at first and as it moved closer it appeared perfectly round and was flat.
SAVAGE advised the object, which appeared to him as a disc, had no appearance
of being spherical and had a ratio of diameter to the thickness of approxi-
mately 10 to l, appearing thicker in the center, but this could not be
positively ascertained.
SAVAGE judged the object to be at an altitude of
between 10,000 and 18,000 feet, and it left no trailing effects. SAVAGE
related that it appeared to be in bulk as big as the bulk of six B-29s at
an altitude of approximately the same height. SAVAGE advised that the object
was in his vision approximately 15 to 20 seconds and travelled at a speed
which he judged to be approximately three times that of jet-propelled aircraft.
1
see 116
━ PAGE 82 ━
Memo to the Security Officer, OCAMA, Tinker Field, dtd 7/24/47, F1le
3724-1.
SAVAGE stated that there were no protrusions on this object and as it
went by he listened for a sound of noise, and at one time thought he dis-
tinguished a swishing sound like the rushing of air. This swishing sound
occurred a few seconds after this object had passed him. SAVAGE averred
this sound was not very loud and did not last very long, and it is very
possible that the sound could have been his imagination or expectation, as
he was not sure of the sound. SAVAGE related that he called his wife to
see this object but it had disappeared before she could focus her eyes on
it. Subject stated that the object appeared to diminish in size and
speed as it moved away, and it was moving in a direction of 350º to the
north. Subject further stated that the object appeared to be frosty white
in color at all times.
SAVAGE advised that he has held a pilot's certificate since 1934 and
has been flying since 1929. He advised that he would be glad to answer any
further inquiries and will cooperate in every way possible.
SAVAGE stated
he was sure this object was not a meteor and in his opinion it must be
radically built and powered, probably atonic.
Kalman DSimon
KALMAN D. SIMON
C.I. U. S. Army
1e l16
2
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RESTRICTLD
181 Meridian Street
Greenfield, Mnasachusetta
July 10, 1947
Commanding Off1oer
Westover Pield
Chicopeo, Masachusette
Dear 81rs
After having road several nocounts of eye-witnesses who olaim they
had seen the so-called "flying disos", It brought to mind a strange exper-
lence I had some two weeks ago. The reason I write to you fe that radio and
newspaper reporte state that the air forces have been alerted to investigate
these mysterious objeots. Assuming that you are interested, I an making the
following report in the belief that it might possibly be of help to you. I
do not desire to have any kind of publioity whatsoever in this connection.
About 11130 All, Sunday, June 22nd, I was working outdoors on a step-
ladder, looking up, and suddenly there appeared soross my line of vision a
speeding, brilliant, small, round-shaped, ilvery-white object at an altitude
I would
Judgo to be
about 1,000 ft. or nore. It was noving vory fast in a
atraight, northwesterly direotion,- I would say as fast or possibly faster
than a speeding plane. It was so unusual and strange a sight that it arrest-
ed my attention for about 8 or 10 seoonds until it was obscured by a cloud-
bank.
Inturally ny ouriosity was considerably aroused and I tried to think
what this object might have been. I doubted very much that it could have been
a weather baloon beause it wus not at all like any weather baloons I had seen
The object I saw, although small, reflected the sunlight very strong-
ly as though it wore of polished aluminum or silver, and I can assure you was
very roal. It appeared to have an irregular round shape and while it could
have been diso-shaped, it did not particularly impress ne as such.
I have attempted to give you this information as acourately and
olearly as I low how, free from any imagination or exaggeration. Purther-
more, my experience took place before I had any inkling that "flying disca"
were reported seen.
This informtion is being passed on to you for whatever it may be
worth, purely and simply in the interests of national seourity, and once.
more request that you do not publioise my name.
A CERTIFIED TRUB COPY •
3
ARCHIE P. ROY
Captain, Air Corpe
Sinceroly yours,
/a/ Edward L. DeRose
Edward Le DeRose
AFBIR - CO
Received
ale, 47)
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HEADQUARTERS POURTH AIR PORCE
Office of the Assistant Chief of Staff, A-2
Intelligence
Henilton Pield, California
4APDA
333•5 ID
17 July 1947
SUBJECT: Invostigation of "Plying Disos"
TO:
commending General, Army Air Poroes, Washington 25, Do C.
ATTENTION: AC of AS-2
1. Attached statements and MOICs forwerded to your offlee per
request TVX from Headquarters Air Defense Command, Mitehel Field, N. Y.,
dated 10 July 1947.
2. This headquarters is unable to loote Richard Rankin, however,
as soon as he 18 located, statement and MOIC will be forwarded direst to
your office.
3• Infornation copies furnished Headquerters Air Defense Command.
4 Inels:
1• MOIC 16 Jul/Brom (dup)
2. MOIC 16 Jul/ Brown
(dup
3. MOIC 16 Jul/ 3rown
dup
4• MOIC 16 Jul/ Brown
(dup)
Info so to ADC
DONALD L. SPRINGER
Lt. Colonel, GSC
AC of S, A-2
davia 539
4
ИдТИ
IAL
M3
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Incident
4AP 1208 I
16 July 1947
MEMORAN DUM FOR THE OFFICER IN CHARGE:
1. on 12 July 1947, a call was made at the newspaper office of
the "Idaho Daily Statesman", Boise, Idaho. The aviation editor of the
paper, ir. David N. Johnson, was interviewed in regard to how well he
knew Mr. Kenneth Arnold of Boise, Idaho, and as to the credibility of
any statement made by Mr. Arnold. The purpose of this intervier was an
attempt to verify statenents made by Mr. Kenneth Arnold on 26 June 1947,
to various national news services to the effect that he, la. Amold,
had seen 9 objects flying in the air above the Cascade Mountain Range
of lashington. These objects were subsequently referred to as flying
saucers or flying disks and will here-in-after be referred to as such
in this report. Mr. Johnson stated that he had know Mr. Arnold for
quite a period of time, baving had relations with Mr. Arnold on various
occasions, due to the fact that both he, ir. Johnson, and Mr. Arnold
were private fliers and frequently got together to talk shop. Mr. Johnson
stated that as far as he was concerned anything Mr. Arnold said could be
taken very seriously and that he, Mr. Johnson, actually believed that Mr.
Arnold had seen the aforementloned flying disks. Mr. Johnson stated that
after Mr. Arnold reported having seen the flying disks, that the editor
of the paper had assigned him, Mr. Johnson, the assignment of taking the
airplane belonging to the newspaper and exhausting all efforts to prove
or disprove the probability of flying disks having been seen in the
northwest area. The results of this assignment to Mr. Johnson and what
he subsequently saw is put forth in a sworn statement signed by Mr. Johnson
attached to this report as Exhibit B.
AGENT'S NOTBS: Mr. Johnson is a man of approximately 33 to 35 years of
age. From all appearances he is a very reserved type of person. Mr.
Johnson has logged 2300 hours of flying time in various types of airplanes
up to and including multi-engine aircraft. During part of the war years,
Mr. Johnson was the first pilot of a B-29 type aircraft being assigned to
the Twentleth USAAF and stationed on Tinian Island, in the Pacific. It
is the personal opinion of the interviewer that Mr. Johnson actually saw
what he states that he saw in the attached report. It is also the opinion
of the interviewer that Mr. Johnson would have much more to lose than gain
and would have to be very strongly convineed that he actually saw something
before he would report such an inoident and open himself for the ridicule
that would accompany such a report.
1 Inel, Exhibit "g"
• ME FO
29. 0000
116
FRANK M. BROWN, S/A, GIC 5th AP
━ PAGE 86 ━
COPY,
CONTAI
THAT
Statement of David N. Johnson
at Boise, Idaho, July 12,, 1947
To Whom It May Coneern:
On the sixth day of July, 1947, I received from James L. Brown,
general manager of the Statesman Newspapers, incorporated in Idaho as
The Statesman Printing company, an assignment which was in substance:
"Conduct an aerial search of the northwest states in an effort to
see and photograph a flying disc. Conduct this patrol for so long a time
as you believe reasonable, or until you see a flying disc."
In accordance to these instructions, I took the Statesman's airplane,
and with Kenneth Arnold as passenger, flew a seven and one-half hour, mission
on the seventh day of July, 1947. This mission was without result. It
covered an area embracing the confines of the Fanford plant in Washington,
and territory between and around it. Rainier and Mt. Adams, where Arnold
first reported seeing objects
henceforth described as saucers or discs.
On the eighth day of July, 1947, I took an AT-6 of the 190th Fighter
squadron, Idaho Nationel Guard, of which I am a member, and flew to northern
Idaho, into northwestern Wontana briefly, to Spokene, Washington, and back
to Boise by wey of alla Valle, Washington, and Pendleton, Oregon. This
search also was negative.
On the ninth day of July, 1947, I continued the search, again using a
national guard AI-6, this time centerin, my efforts over the Owyhee mountains
west and southwest of Boise, a portion of the Mountain Home desert on a treck
southeast of the lountain Home army air base, thence into the Sawtooth moun-
tains, and back in the general direction of Boise on a line carrying me well
to the north of the Shafer butte forest service lookout station, into thö
Horseshoe Bend area, and thence back in a southwesterly direction to a point
s095.
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ONFI
between Boise and the village of eridian, west of Boise a few miles.
During this search, which lested approximately two and one-half
hours,
I flew under and around rapidly forming cumulus clouds over thet
area known as the Camas Prairio, east of Boise. The clouds were near the
village of Fairfield in that valley, and Fairfield is 75 miles airline
distance east of Boise. At that time I saw nothing in the vicinity of
these clouds.
At the time I reached the point between Boise and Meridien, I was
flying at an altitude of 14,000 feet mean sea level, which would be a mean
average of 11,000 feet above the eerth in this area, not considering errors
in the altimeter induced either by barometric chenges since my takeoff, or
by the tempereture at that altitude.
I turned the aircraft on en eusterly heading, pointing toward Gowen
Field, and had flown on that course for perheps a minute when there suddenly
appeared in the left hand portion of my field of vision an object which was
black and round.
I immediately centered my gaze on the object. At that time, due to its
erratic movenent, I thought I was seeing a weather belloon. I called the
CAA's communication station at Boise, and saked if the weather station had
recently released a balloon. The reply from conmunicator Albertson was thet
the bureau had not. I do not remember his exact words; I am under the
impression he said "not for severel hours" or gave me the exact time of the
previous release, which was around 06:30 that day•
Upon hearing this response, I turned the aircraft broadside to the
object, pulled beck the plexiglass covering to avoid any distortion, took
my camera from the map case, and exposed about 10 seconds' duretion of eight
millimeter motion picture film. During the time the camere was at eye level,
2a 95.
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━ PAGE 88 ━
I could not see the object because of minuteness of scope introduced by the
optical view finder with which the camera, en f.1.9 Eastmen, was equipped.
Taking the camera away and once again centering my gaze on the object,
I observed it to roll so thet its edge was presented to me. At this time it
flashed once in the sunlight. It then appeared as a thin black line. It
then performed a maneuver which looked as if it had begun a slow roll, or
a barrel roll, which instead of being completed, was broken off at about
the 180-degree point. The object rolled out of the top of the maneuver at
this point, and I lost sight of it.
This entiro performance was observed against the background of clouds
previously forming over the Cames Prairie. The object appeared to me,
relatively, as the size of a twenty-five cent piece. I do not know how
far away it was. I do not know, nor can I truthfully estimate, its speed.
I can only say it was not an airplane, and if it was at a very great dis-
tance from me, its speed was great, taking into consideration that apparent
speed is reduced to the viewer if an object is a very great distance away.
I forgot to look at my clock to determine the exact time I saw the
object. The CAA's log of radio contacts shows my first contact to have been
made at 12:17 hours. But a few seconds elapsed between the time I first saw
the object, and the time I called the CAA's station.
I subsequently related over the radio a description of what I saw, and
communicator Albertson may remember it. The control tower may have a record-
ing of the conversation. I have not checked to determine that.
The purpose of my relating over the air what I saw was to enable rapid
transmission of the report to the newspaper, for at that time I was on
assignment and my energies thenceforth were devoted to (1) transmitting the
infornation and (2) conducting a further search, which I did aftor landing
for fuel and to make some telephone calls.
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The next search, begun within half on hour after landing from the
first one, consumed another two hours, but was negative. I explored thorough-
ly the region where I saw the object.
Innediately after sighting the object, I asked if there were other
aircraft in the area. There was a P-51 of the 190th squadron practicing
maneuvers in the vicinity of kuna, but that was behind ne. A C-82 passed
over Boise, but I saw that aircraft go beneath me by some 2,000 feet.
The P-5l in the vicinity of Kuna proceeded to the area where I saw
the object, at my request, and conducted a search. It was negetive.
During the afternoon, flights of P-Sis were sent out to cover the aree,
and some of them flew high altitude missions on oxygen. These searches
were negative.
I was subsequently informed that personnel on both the United Air
Lines side of Gowen field, and on the national guard side, observed a black
object maneuvering in front of the same cloud formation, which by now had
grown so that the clouds reached a probable height of 19,000 or 20,000 feet
from a mean base of 13,500 or 14,000 feet, mean sea levél. Three of these
men were national guard personnel and I talked to them, asking them to
describe
what they saw, before telling them my story, in order to avoid
suggestion or inference of a leading nature. They sew the objoot (from
the ground) while I was on my second search. They believed the time to
have been 14:00 hours. The object performed in the seme erratic manner,
they said, as I observed.
The above is the extent of the story, and information concerning
myself is now in order.
I have approximately 2800 hours of flying time in equipment ranging
from primary trainers to 8-29s. Of course, that does not increase my
powers of observation except as to those practiced daily by an airmen.
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CONF
MAIO
It does not make my eyesight any sharper except again as to the inoidental
demends upon the eyes of a pilot.
At the, time of the experience related above, I had flown fourteen
and one-half hours on an assignment to find a diso and if possible, to
photograph it. In all frankness, I was tired. I may have been suffering,
although slightly, from want of oxygon.
Prior to sighting the object, I had concluded there was no point in
pressing the search, that I probably would never see tho diso-1lke objects
referred to by Arnold and by Captain Snith of United Air Lines.
At all times during the search, both on that day and the two preceding
days (particularly when I was with Arnold) I had literally talked to myself
to keep beating into my head thet I would not fall viotin to the power of
suggostion or self-hypnosis arising fron a naturally very intent desire to
find a dise and bring sucoess to the assignment given me.
I therefore do not beliove that I was the viotim of suggestion or
hypnosis. I am femiliar with the optionl illusion of a fixed object begin-
•ning to move after it is watched a sufficient longth of time. I know what
tricks the eyes will play as to moving bodies, and have learned of this
particularly during night fornation flying.
I saw the object appear suddenly. If it had noved in a jerky fashion
(as it did at first) for the full longth of time I observed it, I would not
be so strong in saying thet I saw something not an aircraft, not a balloon,
and not a corpuscle moving across the retina of either eye. The maneuver
doseribed by the object when its eúgo was presented to no convincos no that
I sew an object actually performing in an erratic flight path.
The question rerains; of course, whether I saw it. the motion picture
film, developad and processed by R. ". Stohr in the Bastran laboratorios at
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241 Battery Streot, San Prancisco, showed no trace of any object. Stohr
says that 1f It was more then a mile distant from ne at the size I described,
the object would not have registered sufficiently on the film to be shown.
He said it probably was too far away to be apperent even through great en-
largement of the negative, and enlargement in that case is limited because
of the size of the film and the fact I did not have any telescopic equipment
on the lens. The exposure was f.16, stop set at infinity, at a speed of 16
frames per second.
I have worried over this matter a great deal since seeing it. I "took
myself asido" and said, "come now, Johnson, don't be stupid." But I cannot-
bring myself to the point of thinking I did not see anything. The impression
of the moment was too vivid, too realistic, and I knew in the air when I saw.
that partial slow roll or barrel roll, that I was not a victim of illusion.
I trust this matter will be of help to those investigating the flying
dise phenomena which have been reported.
A chart is attached depioting the movements of the object as I saw it.
This statement is made voluntarily and freely, in response to the
request of lir. Brown and Captain Davidson, who called on me this morning.
/s/ David N. Johnson
Subscribed and sworn to before me, a notary public, this_
12th
day of July, 1947.
/ s/
Geo. L. Flaherty
Notery public for Ade
county Idaho.
My
commission expires den 2, 1949•
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Chart to which reference is
made on page six, statement
of David N. Johnson.
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This design portrays the movements of the object to
which reference is made in the attached statement. At
all times the object appeared as black. Positions (1), (2)
and (3) show the jerky, rising motion. Position (4) 1s where
the object rolled, presenting its edge to me. It then
followed the dotted line, rolling over the top of the maneuver
and disappearing at position (5).
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16 July 1947
MEMORAN DOM FOR THS OFFICER
IN CHAROBA
*
- On 12 July 1947, Mr, Kenneth ArnolA, Ber 387, Boise, Idaho
as interviewed in regard to the report by ir. Arnold that he saw !
strange objects flying over the Cascade Mountain Range of Washingtan
State on July 25th. Mr. Arnold voluntarily Agreed to give the interviewer
a written report of exactly what he had seen on the above mentioned date.
The written report of Mr. Arnold is attached to thia report as lahibit A.
AGENT'S NOTES: Mr. Arnold la a man of 32 years of ago, being married and
the father of two children. Re to well thought of in the comunity in
wideh he lives, being very mch the fanily man and from all appearances
a very good provider for lie fantly. ir. Arnold has recently purchased a
home on the outakirta of Boise, recently purchased a $5,000 airplane in
which to conduet his business to the extent of which is explained in the
attached. exhibit. It la the personal opinion of the interviewer shat Mr.
Arnold actually saw what he stated that he san. It is diffloult to belleve
that a man of ir. Amold's sharacter and apparent integrity would state
that he saw objeets and write up a report to the extent that he did 1f he
did not seeither. To go further, 1f Mr. Arnold can write a report of the
charaster that he did while not having seen the objects that he claimed he
saw, it 1s the opinion of the interviewer that ir. Arnold la in the wrong
business, that he should be writing Buck Rogers fletion. Mr. Arnold is
very outspoken and somewhat bitter in his opinions of the leaders of the
U.S. Arry Air Forces and the Pederal Bureau of Investigation for not having
made an investigation of thie matter sooner. To put all of the statements
nade by Mr. Amold in thia report iould make it a veluminous volume. However,
after having checked an aeronautical nap of the area over which Mr. Arnold
claims that he saw the objects it was determined that all statements nade by
Mr. Arnold in regard to the distances Involved, speed of the objects, sourse
of the objecte and sise of the objects, could very possibly be facts. The
distances mentioned by Mr. Arnold in his report are within a short distance
of the actual distances on aeronautical charts of this area, although Me.
Arnold has never consulted aeronautical charts of the type the Aruy uses.
Mr. Arnold stated that his business had suffered greatly since his report
on July 25 die to the fact that at every stop on his business routes, large
crorde of people were waiting to quention his as to just what he had seen.
Mr. Arnold stated further thit 1f he, it any time in the future, saw anything
in the sky, to quote Mr. Arnold direetly, "If I saw a ten story butlding
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INFIDENTIAL
SOME LIFE DATA ON KENNETH ARNOLD
I was born March 29, 1915 in Subeka, Minnesota. My father's name was
Edward Erb Arnold; my mother's maiden name was Bertha E. Barden. I was a
resident of Minnesota until I was six yeers old when my family moved to
Scobey, Montana, where they homesteaded. My grandfather, Roland C. Arnold
also homesteaded in Scobey, Montana, and became quite prominent in political
cirolos along with Burton K. Wheeler, the famous Montana senator.
I went to grade school and high school at Winot, North Dakota. I
entered scouting at twelve years of age and achieved the rank of Eagle scout
before I was fourteen. My former scout executive was i. H. Prescott, now a
regional commissioner for the Boy Scouts in Kanses City, Kansas.
As a boy, I was interested in athletics and was selected es an all-
state end in 1932 and 1933 in the state of lorth Dakota. I entered the
U. S. Olympio trials in fancy diving in 1932; I was a Rod Cross Life Saving
Exeminer during the years of 1932, '33 and '34. I taught swimning and diving
• at scout camps and the municipal pool in Minot, lorth Dakots. I went to the
University of Minnesoto, where I swam and did faney diving under Neils Thorpe,
and also played football under Bernie Bierman, but upon entering college I
was unable to continue my football career because of an injured knee. My
high sohool football coach was Glenn L. jarrett, who is now the head football
coach of the University of North Dakota. I had little or no finances, and
my ambition in furthering my education in college was through my athletics:
As a boy in Minot, lorth Dekote, I did a good deel of dog sled recing, placed
first with my dog in 1930 in the Lions Club Dog Derby•
In 1939 I went to work for fed Comet, Ince of Littleton, Coloredo, a
manufacturer of autonatic fire fighting apparatus. In 1939 I was made
district manager for them over a part of the western stetos, and in 1940 I
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established my own fire control supply lnown as the Great Western Fire
Control Supply• I have been working as an independent fire control
engineer since, and I handle, distribute, sell and install all types of
automatic and manual fire fighting equipment in the rural areas over
five western, states.*
My flying experionce started as a boy in linot, liorth Dakota, where
I took my first flying losson from Earl T. Vance, who wes originally from
Great Pells, Montana. Due to the high cost at that time, I was unable to
continue my flying and did not fly of any great consequence until 1943.
• I was given my pilot certificate by Ed Leach, a senior CAA inspector of
Portland, Oregon, and for the last three years have owned my own airplane
covering my entire territory with same and flying from forty to one hundred
hours per month since. Due to the fact that I use an airplane entirely in
my work, in January of this year I purchased a new Callair airplane, which
is an airplane designed for high altitude take-offs and short rough field use.
In the typo of flying I do, it tekes a great deal of practice and
judgment to be able to land in most any cow pasture and get out without
injuries your airplane; the runways are very limited and the altitude is
very high in some of the fields and places I have to go in my work. To
date, I have landed in 823 cow pastures in mountain meadows, and in over
a thousand hours a flat tire has been my greatest mishap.
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C
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TIAL
BY KENNETH ARNOLD
The following story of what I observed over the Cascade mountains,
as impossible as it may seem, is positively true. I never asked nor wanted
any notoriety for just accidently being in the right spot at the right time
to observe what I did. I reported something that I know any pilot would
have reported. I don't think that in any wey my observation was due to any
sensivity of eye sight or judgment than what is considered normal for any pilot.
On June 24th, Tuesday, 1947, I had finished my work for the Centrel Air
Service at Chehalls, lashington, and at about two o'olock I took off from
Chehalis, Washington, airport with the intention of coing to Yakina, Wash.
My trip was delayed for an hour to search for a large merine transport that
supposedly went down near or around the southwest side of it. Rainier in the
state of lashington and to date has never been found.
I flew direotly toward lit. Rainior after reaching an altitude of about
9,500 feet, which is tho approximate elevation of the high plateau from which
Mt. Rainer rises. I had made one sweep of this high plateau to the westward,
searching all of the various ridges for this marine ship and flew to the west
down and near the ridge side of the canyon where Ashford, lashington, is located.
Unable to see anything thet looked like the lost ship, I made a 360 degree
turn to the right and above the little city of Mineral, starting again toward
Mt. Rainier. I climbed back up to an altitude of approximately 9,200 feet.
The air was so smooth that day that it was a real pleasure flying and,
as most pilots do when the air is smooth and they are flying at a higher
altitudo, I trimmed out my airplane in the direction of Yakima, Washington,
which was almost directly east of my position end simply sat in my plane ob-
serving the sky and the terrain.
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There was a DC-4 to the left and to the rear of me approximately
fifteen miles distance, and I should judgo, at 14,000 foot elevation.
The sky and air was as clear as crystal. I hadn't flown more than
two or three minutes on my course when a bright flash reflected on my
airplane. It startled me as I thought I was too close to some other air-
oraft. I looked every place in the sky and couldn't find where the reflec-
tion had cone from until I looked to the left and the north of lit. Rainier
where I observed a chain of nine peculiar looking nircraft flying from north
to south at approxinately 9,500 foot elevation and going, seemingly, in a
definite direction of about 170 degrees.
They were approaching It. Rainier very rapidly, and I nerely assumed
they were jet planes. Anyhow, I discovered that this was where the reflec-
tion had come from, as two or three of them every few seconds would dip or
change their course slightly, just enough for the sun to strike them at an
angle that reflected brightly on my plane.
These objects being quite far away, I was unable for a few seconds to
make out their shape or their formation. Very shortly they approached Mt.
Rainier, and I observed their outline against the snow quite pleinly.
I thou ht it was very peculiar that I couldn't find their tails but
assumed they were, some type of jet plane. I was determined to clock their
speed, as I had two definite points I could clock them by; the air was so
clear that it was very easy to see objects and determine their approximate
shape and size at almost fifty miles that day.
I remember distinctly that my sweep second hand on my eirht day clock,
which is located on my instrument panel, read one minute to 3 P.M. es the
first object of this formation passed the southern edge of It. Reinier.
I watched these objects with great interest as I had never
before observed
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airplanes flying so close to the mountain tops, flying directly south to
southeast down the hog's back of a mountein renge. I would estimate their
elevation could have varied a thousand feet one way or another up or down,
but they were pretty much on the horizon to me which would indicate they.
were near the same elevation es I was.
They flew like many times I have observed geese to fly in a rather
diagonal chein-like line as if they were linked together. They seemed to
hold a definite direction but rather swerved in and out of the high mountein
peaks. Their speed at the time did not impress me particularly, because I
knew that our army and air forces had planes that went very fast.
What kept bothering me as I watched them flip and flash in the sun
right along their path was the fact thot I couldn't make out any teil on
them, and I am sure that any pilot would justify more than a second look at
such a plane.
I observed them quite pluinly, und I ostimate my distence from them,
which was elmost at right angles, to be between twenty to twenty-five miles.
I knew they must be very large
to observe their shepe at that distance, even
on as clear a day as it was thet fuesdey. In feet I compared a zeus fastorier
or cowling tool I had in my pocket with them - holdin; it up on them end
holding it up on the DC-4 - thet I could observe at quite a distance to my
left, and they seemed smaller then the DC-4; but, I should judre their span
would have beon as wide as the furtherest engines on each side of the
fuselege of the DC-4.
The more I observod these objects, the more upset I became, as I am
accustomed and femilior with most all objects Plying whether I am close to
the ground or at hicher altitudes. I observed the chein of these objects
passins another high snow-covered ride in between lit. Reinier and lt. Adams,
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and as,the first one was passing the south crest of this ridge the last
object was entering the northern crest of the riage.
As I was flying in the direction of this particular ridge, I measured
it and found it to be approximately five miles so I could safely assume that
the chain of these saucer like objects were at least five miles long. I
could quite accurately determine their pathway due to the fact that there
were several high peaks thet were e little this side of them as well as
higher peaks on the other side of their pathway.
As the last unit of this formation pessed the southern most high snow-
covered crest of it. Adans, I looked at my sweep second hand and it showed
that they had travelled the distance in one minute and forty-two seconds.
Even at the time this timing did not upset me as I felt confident after I
would land there would be some explanation of what I sew.
A number of news men and experts suggested that I might have been
seeing reflections or even a mirage. This I know to be absolutely felse,
as I observed these objects not only through the gloss of my airplene but
turned my airplane sideways where I could open my window and observe them
with a complotely unobstructed view. (Without sun glasses)
Even though two minutes seems like a very short time to one on the
ground, in the air in two minutes time a pilot can observe a great meny
things and anything within his sight of vision probably as many as fifty or
sixty times.
I continued my search for the marine plane for another fifteen or
twenty minutes and wile searching for this marine plone, what I had just
observed kept going through my mind. I became more disturbed, so after
taking a last look at Tieton
• Reservoir I headed for Yakina.
I might add that my complete observation of these objects, which' I
could aren follow by their flashes as they passed Mt. Adams, wes around two
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and one half or three minutes -- although, by the tine they reached lt. Adams
they were out of my renge of vision as fer as determining shape or forn. Of
course, when the sun re lected from one or two or three of these units, they
appesred to be completely round; but, I em making a drawing to the best of my
ability, which I em including, es to the sheve I observed these objects to be
as they pessed the snow covered rides as well as to Rainier.
whon those objects were flying approximately streicht and level, they
wore just a black thin line and when they flipped wes the only time I could
get a juagment as to their size.
These objects wer holding an alnost, constant elevetion; they did not
seem to be goin up or to be coming, down, such as would be the case of rockets
or artillery shells. I am convinced in ny own mind that they were some type
of airplane, even thouth they didn't contorn with the many aspocts of tho
conventional type o? planes that I know.
Although these objects have been reported by many other observers
throu hout the United States, there rave been six or seven other accounts
written by some of those observers thet I can truthfully sey must have ob-
served the same thing that I did; perticularly, the descriptions of the three
Western/Re La rat/em toyees, the/eRtletan from Oklahoma Caty and the Locomo-
tive engineer in Illinois, plus Cept Smith and Co-Pilot Stevens of United Air Lines
Some descriptions could not be very accurate taken from the ground unless
these saucer-like disks were at quite a great height and there is a possibility
that all of the people who observed peculiar objects could heve seen the seme
thing I did; but, it would heve been very difficult from the ground to observe
these for more then
four or fivo seconds, and there is nlwys the possibility
of atmospheric moisture and dust near the ground which could distort one's vision.
I have in my possession letters from all over the United States end people
who profess that these objects have been observed over other portions of the
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world, principally Sweden, Bermuda, and California.
I would have given almost anything that day to have had a novie
•camera with a telephoto lons and from now on I will never be without one - -
but, to continue further with my story. When I landed at the Yakine, Wash.,
airport I described what I had seon to my vory good friend, Al Baxter, who
listoned patiently and was, very courteous but in a joking way didn't believe me.
I did not accurately messure the distance between these two mountains
until I landed at Pondloton, Oregon, that same day wore I told a number of
pilot friends of mine what I had observed and they did not seoff or laugh but
suggested they might be puided missiles or something new. In fect several
former Army pilots informed me thet they had been briefed before oing into
combat overseas that they might see objects of similar shope and design es 1
described and assured me that I wasn't dreaming or going crazy•
I quote Sonny Robinson, a former Army Air Forces pilot who is now opera-
ting dustin operations at Pendleton, Oregon, "ihat you observed, 1 an con-
vinced, is some type of jot or rocket propellad ship thut is in the process
of being tested by our government or even it coull possibly be by some foreign
governnent".
Anyhow, the news that i lnd observed these sproas vor rapidly und
before the nicht was over I was receiving telephone cells Cron all parts of
the world; and, to date 1 hive not received one telophone ell or one letter
of scotting or disbelief. the only aisbelief that I know of was what was
printed in the papers.
I 100k at this whole ordeel as not something funny as some people heve
made it out to bo. To me it is righty serious end since I evidently did
observe sonothing that at least r. John voe on the street corner or Pete
Andrews on the ranch hes never heard about, is no ranson that it does not
exist. Even though I openly invited an investiration by the Army end the
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FBI as to the authenticity of my story or a mentel or a physicel exemination
at to my capabilities, I heve received no interest from these two importent
protective forces of our country; I will fo so far as to assume thet any
report I gave to the United and Associated Press end over the radio on two
different occasions which apperently set the nation buzzing, if our Mlitery
Intelligence was not aware of whet I observed, they would be the very first
people that I oould expect as visitors.
I havo received lots of requests from people who told me to make a lot
of wild guesses. I heve based what I have written here in this article on
positive facts and as far as uessing what it wes I obsorvod, it is just as
much a mystory to me as it is to the rest of the world.
My pilot's license is 333487. I Ply a Collair airplone; it is a three-
plece single onsino land ship that is desi ned and manufuctured et Afton,
nyoning as on oxtronoly high performones, high altitude eirplane that ves
made for mountrin work. The netional certificate of my plane is 33355.
/s/
Kenneth Arnold
Box 587
Boise, Idaho.
traveling this way
Top
They seemed longer then wide, their
thickness was about 1/20th of their width
side View
trading the s
Mirror Bricht
hey did not apponr to me to whirl or spin but seemed in fixed position,
traveling as I hove mao arenin•
/s/ Kenneth Arnold
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PECT
HEADQUARTERS TACTICAL AIR COMMAND
LANGLEY FIELD. VIRGINIA
7 July 1947
IN REPLY REFER TO:
SUBJECT: Roport of Unusuel Colostial Phenomonn
TO:
Assistant Chief of Staff, 4-2
Headguarters Tactical Air Commund
Langley Field, Virginia
Keeuved AFBIR. LO
July
I. The following report is submitted concerning an unusual occur-
rence observed by bhe muti diazy-a
Porsonnel at lazell Fiold, Montgonory,
Ala. on the night of 28 June 1947:
САРТ
муко, 0-33841, 49, ТАС
CAPT• JOHN H. CANTRELL, 0-25540%, Hq, TAC
IST LT. THEODORE DEWEY, 0-2094172, Mg, TAC
CAPT. REDIAN, Randolph Fiold, Texas
2. At approxinately 2120 Central time, a light, with a brillianco
slightly greater than a star, apposred fran the Wost. It was first noted
above the horizon of a clour moon-light night, traveling in an easterly
direction at a high rate of spood.
There was no audible sound and it was
imposcible to dotornine the altitude, except that it appoared to be at
great height. It travoled in a zig zag courso with frequent bursts of
spoed, Anuch liko a water bug as it spurts and stops across the surface of
wator. It contimed until it was directly ovorhead and changod course 900
into the south. Aftor traveling in the above mannor for approxinately five
(5) minutes, it turnod southwest and was lost in the brillianey of the moon.
at 2145 Contral it vas no longer possiblo to observe it.
3. A call vas placod to Maxwell Fiold operationa referenco this
phenomena and inquiry nade if any exporimental aircraft vero schoduled for
a flight in the vicinity. The reply was negative.
4• No plausible explantion is offered for the unusual action of this
source of light, which acted contrary to any comnon aerodymunical laws.
This report is submitted upon request, in view of the many recent reports
referenco unusual aerial objects observed throughout the U.s.
5. Two of the above noted observers are rated pilots and the other two
are air intolligence officero. All observers were cold sober. Crood
6• Attached herewith a sketch showing approximate course of
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WILSON HI. KAYKO
Captain, Air Corps
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ADDRESS REPLY TO
- DIRECTOR, NAVAL RESEARCH LABORATO
WASHINGTON 20, D. C.
AND REFER TO:
Code 110
ARMY LIAISON OFFICE
NAVY DEPARTMENT
NAVAL RESEARCH LABORATORY
WASHINGTON 20, D.C.
BIR
18 July 1947
SUBJECT: Interviev of Person Reporting Unidentifled Aerial Objeet
TO:
Asst Chief of Air Staff-2
Collection Branch, AAF
Washington 25, D. C.
1. At the request of It. Col. G. D. Garrett, AAF A-2, the
undersigned has interviewed this date Mr. C. H. Zohn, Administrative
Assistant in the Rocket Sonde Section, NRL, who had previously
released information to the press regarding an aerial object which
he stated he saw at White Sands, New Mexico, 29 June.
2. Substance of the interview is as follows:
At between 1:00 and 1:30 p.m. Sunday, 29 June 1947,
Mr. Zohn, in the company of the following: Mr. J. R. Kauke, NRL Rocket
Sonde Section telemetering supervisor; Mr. C. C. Rockwood, NRL Rocket
Sonde high altitude spectrograph scientist; and Mrs. Naney Rockwood,
wife of the latter, was proceeding along Highway 17 in a North-Easterly
direction from Las Cruces, New Mexico to White Sands V-2 firing grounds
in an automobile driven by Mr. Kauke. At some time between those given
and about one-third of the distance from Las Cruces Mr. Kauke, who was
driving the ear, noticed the subject device and called attention to the
other occapants. Mr. Zohn opened the window nearest him and observed
the object moving at an unknown rapid velocity at an unknown altitude,
which he estimated at about 10,000 feet, and which Mr. Kauke, who also
observed it through an open window, estimated at between 8,000 and
10,000 feet, although the former puts little credence in the estimates.
When firet sighted the object was to the right and forward
of the automobile at an unstated elevation and was apparently moving
horizontally in a Northerly direction such as to cross the highway from
right to left. The object was observed by all persons in the automobile.
Mr. Zohn stated that he could not observe any details of the object
other than that 1ts shape was uniform, with no protuberances sch as
the wings of an airplane. It was too distant to epable stereoscopie
visualization. There was apparently some solar specular reflection
which seemed to change. in intensity as the object receded until it
was lost from sight after an estimated 30 seconds from the time first
noticed. He could not explain how it disappeared except perhaps that
the reflection angle may have changed abruptly. There were apparently
no clouds or visibility obstructions at the time. The sun was to the
rear of the automobile. Mr. Kauke thought that at one time he saw
vapor trails.
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Itr, ALO, NRL, 18 July 47 to Asst Chief Air Staff-2, Collection Br., AAF,
subj: "Interview of Person Reporting Unidentified Aerial Object"
3. This interview was made in the presence of Dr. H. E. Newell,
Acting Rocket Sonde Section Head, who said that Mr. Zohn had recently
been in the Navy and is familiar with the appearance of the majority of
aircraft types and with meteorological balloons. Mr. Zohn also stated
that none of the occupants of the car were intoxicated.
Dilliam 1. Millen
WILLIAM P. MELLEN
Major, Air Corps
AMC Liaison Officer
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IAPERTLENT REPORT
SUDJECT: Interviews with Capt. B. v. SKITH and Ralph Stovens, Ünited Air
Lines pilots, who reported seeing flying disks.
the nyang dako", it at intervie youly 1947, concorins
"iTe left Boise, Idaho, at 2004 Pecific Standard line. At approximately
2015, the co-pilot, Ralph STEVENS, called my attention to the first object
We were then in the vicinity of Emmet, Ideho, our altitude wes app-
roximately 6500, and we were climbing to our proposod cruising altitude of
3000 from there to Pondleton, Oregon. The heding of the plane at that time
was 300 degrees Magnetic North, and the object (one) was sighted at approx-
imately 290 degrees, or ten degrees to our left.
Then an additional four
objacts appeared to
the left of the main, or first, object. These four
objeate appeared slightly smeller than the first object slghted, but all
of the objects appearad on the same plane.
I estimated the altitude of
the objects to be about 8500. They were within our sight for epproximatoly
two minutes, then they disappeared.
"Shortly after the first group disappeared, probably one or two minutes
later, the second group eppeared about 310 degrues, or to the right of the
plane.
Their altitude was the samo as the first group.
Three of the objects
eppeared to be on the same plane, and one object appeared slightly higher
and to the right of the others.
The seoond group steved within our sight
twelve to fifteen minutes, then disappeared. We had levelled off by the
time the second group disappeered.
"The objects were flat on the base, the top slightly rough in contour.
The dimensions appeared the samo as a DC-3 approximately five miles from
из .
In other words, it could have been ninety miles away if it would be
possible for an object as largo se that would have to be to be flying, but
since we didn't mow wat me were looking at or how largo it was, we de-
cided that if it were the size of a DC-3 wing span (90 feet), it was about
five miles distent.
Actually, we have no idea just how large it was since
we could not determine its distance from us. When we first sighted the
objects, we decided they were either going away from us or coming towards
us. After a short while, however, we knew they couldn't be coming towards
us, bacause we never approached them. I don't believe they could have
been going a great rate of speed and still stayed in sight for as long as
they did.
I would judge they might have beon travelling about 300 miles
per hour.
"My personal opinions regarding the objects are - that their speed
varied, was not constent. When first sighted, they were going slow and
stayed within sight for quite some time. However, when we lost sight of
them, they seemed to disappear practically immediatoly. I think they
either put on a tremendous burst of speed and disappeared from sight, or
else they dissipated. Also, it appeared that only one object, the large
one, was controlled, and it in turn controlled the other objects, and I
think they were ground controlled.
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"In both instances, the co-pilot sighted the objects first and called
my attention to them.
The weather was cloar and unlimited, with not a cloud
in the sky. We checked the wind, and it was 230-10, or out of the Southwest
at ten miles per hour. The air speed of the ship was about 135 MPH. The
sun was below the horizon and the objects were silhoueted against the sky,
hence we could distinguish no color or reflection."
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Ralph STEVENS, co-pilot of the plane, was interviewed et 2130, 9 July
1947. STEVENS corroborated the remarks made by SMITH concerning the flight
of the plane, the time the objects were sighted, direction of the flight of
the plane, etc.
There were two discrepancios in their statements as to the
size of the smaller objects and the altitude at which they were flying.
STEVENS stated that there was a big difference in the size of the large
objects and the smaller ones, and that it was hard to distinguish the shepe
of the smaller ones. STEVENS also steted that the objects were at the same
altitude as their plane and seemed to be climbing with them.
In addition to
confirming SMITH'S statements concerning the flight, etc., STEVENS stated
substantially as follows:
"I was flying the plane when I spotted the first object et 2012 on the
4th of July, eight minutes after departure from Boise, Idaho. I thought it
was an oncoming aircraft similar to ours (DC-3) about five miles away, so
turned on our landing lights, which is the usual signal to another plane to
let it know you're in the vicinity. I mentioned this fact to SMITH, and he
watched the object also.
While we were both watching, four more objects
appeared at the same altitude as the first. They seemed to be et the sene
altitude as our plane, about 6000 feet. They were heading about 290 degrees
magnetio North, so I turned to follow them. We watched them for four or
five minutes, then they all merged as one and disappeared. I don't know
whether they merged in line of flight or not, nor do I know whether they
went beyond our vision or whether they dissipated.
"Two minutes later, the large object reappeared with three smaller
ones on its loft and one smaller one a great distance to the right.
We
had the second group in sight for about twelve minutes. The last time
seen, they were still in that formetion and disappeared into the sunset.
Also, when we last saw them, they seemed to have continued climbing aftor
we levelled off and were about nine or ten thousand feet.
"At the time we saw the objects, the sun war below the horizon, but
there was quite a bright red glow above the horizon from the sunset. I
couldn't really say what distance they were from us, not knowing what they
were or how large they were. However, while we wero watching them we
radiod ahead to Ontario, Oregon, about thirty miles distant, to the weather
station there, and told them what we were seeing and asked them to go out-
side and see if they could see them. They radioed back and said they could
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see nothing, so the objects could have been beyond Ontario, since we had
told them that they were between our plane and Ontario. It should also be
noted that the personnel at Ontario would be looking at a dark sky and
may not be likely to be able to see them anyway.
"I can't say whether they are man-made disks or not, whether they are
radio controlled or not, or anything about them. They did not maneuver much
at all, except when the first group merged. All I can say is that they were
going our direction and were climbing. I don't think they were clouds, as
there hadn't been a cloud in the sky, end it would have been quite a phen-
-omenon as it was like nothing I had ever seen before. There was a big dif-
ference in the size of the objects. The smaller ones were hard to distinguish
as to shape; they were not shiny, nor did the "flip". I couldn't swear on a
stend that they were not clouds, but I think it impossible. lad they been
clouds, they wouldn't have appeared and disappeared so suddenly, and we
would have approached them.
"As we were taxiing out to take off from Boise, the tower called us
and asked us if we had seen any disks lately. As a consequence, we were and
had been talking about the flying disks when we sighted them. I don't believe,
however, that it was a figment of the imagination, as SMITH and I were seeing
the seme things, even the object far off to tho right in the second group.
We also called the stewardess, who had not been in on the conversation, and
without mentioning "disks" aksed her what she saw.
She stated that she saw
the sane things we did, which seemed to prove to us that it was not our
imagination."
In addition to the above, STEVENS statod, off the record, that he was
rather disappointed in SNITH end all the publicity he was getting. ie
thought that SMITH was probably "grand-standing" some, and that as far as
he, StEVENS, was concerned, he was not going to be interviewed by any re-
porters, or go on the radio, etc. de stated that he was glad to talk to
a Navy representative about it, or to any other government official, and
help in any way he could, but he certainly didn't want to be bothered with
a lot of interviews with newspapers and radio stations. STEVENS seemed to
the writer to be e very level headed, sensible man, and not in favor of a
lot of publicity, mereas SMITIl, although a sensible man and all, seemed to
be more in favor of all the publicity he was getting•
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Incident
4AF 1208 I
16 July 1947
MEMORANDUM FOR TIE OFFICER. IN CHARGE:
1. On 12 July 1947, Captain Snith, of the United Airlines, was
interviered at the Boise Municipal Airport, Boise, Idaho. Captain
Smith was passing through Boise on a schedule flight at the time and
had a 20 minute stop-over. Captain Smith reiterated the statements
originally made by him to
the press as to what he had seen in the late
evening of July 4th, when 8 minutes out of Boise on the route to Seattle,
Washington. It is the opinion of the interviever that due to the postion
Captain Snith occupies, that he, Captain Smith, would have to be very
strongly convinced that he actually saw flying disks before he would open
himself far the ridicule attached to a report of this type.
FRANK M. BROWN, S/A, CIC Lth AF
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IN REPLY RIFIER TOI
HEADQUARTERS, ARMY AIR FO
WASHINGTON
16 July 1947
TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN
I, Major Archie B. Browning, AC, do hereby swear, thie dete,
that the following statements are true to the best of ny knowledge:
'On 6 July 1947, while flying from Ogden, Utah, to Kansas
City, Missouri, at 10000 ft in a 3-25, I noticed a very bright
object low and to my left, epproxinately 10 miles away. Time
was 1:45 P.M., and position approximately 100 miles west of
Kansas City. My first impression was that it was the top of a
water tank.
After checking my position on the map I again
- looked to ny left (elapsed time 5 seconds). A round, disc
shaped object, very bright and silvery colored, seemed to be
Nying one to
two miles off my left wing at ll oclock at
11000 ft. The brightness of the object which I would estimate
at 30-50 ft. in diameter, was very great. It seemed to be
traveling in same direction at same rate of speed (210 MPH
until I started to tum into it, then it completely disappeared.
Weather conditions at that time were CAVU.'
Hes office is assigned to
poutagon
AC /AS -1,
13852
phone
lechie B Brama
ARCHIS B.
BROWNING
Major, Air Corps
9
(Sue attached dingeam
Y TO COMMANDING GENERAL, ARMY AIR FORCES, WASI
NOTON 28
Received AFDIR-CO
16 gly 4)
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After having been advised of ay rights and privileges under the
24th Artlele of Mar, I, JAD H. BURNTSTON, Captala, Air Corpo, 0-66 7527,
Second Air Transport Wing (Provisiom]), Pairfield-Susaun Army Air Base,
Pairfiold, California, do hereby mice this voluntary statement to
Captain William 3. Prasier, Jr., and Sgt. Tommy Stewart, whon I know to
be members of the Intelligence Offioe. I mice the following statement
of my own free will, not under duress, promineof reward or imunity»
On Sunday, July the sixth, at Fairflold-Suisun Army Air Base, while
in the company of my wifo, Mrs. James H. Barniston, I saw an objeet travel-
ing fron northwest to southeast at an estimated height of 10,000 feet or
above at an eroessive rate of speed estimated to be faster than any type
of airoraft seen by ne flown at that approximate altitude. This object
a in sight for approximately sixty seconds, during which time it traveled
apprezinately three-quartere the distance of the viaible sky. No shape or
definite color could be distinguished, the objeet rolled from side to side
three times in its path across the sky. At one time the top of the objeot
could be seen, when the sun reflected strongly fron its surface in a flash;
and at other times the botton of the object could be seen, with no refleo-
tion tron the sun. The estimated size at that height sould be compared to
that of an afroraft of the type C-54. Between viewing the top of the objeet
and what appeared to be the botton, there ma a period when it was hard to
see, or it would almost disappoar.
grees above the earth's surface.
cannot attribute any sound to this objeet, because of the nois
e a distant aireraft engine
the approximte time was verified by my wife as being less than one
mimte, during which time it was in sight.
then the spoed at which it me traveling.
200đ te
1a1 roton
Винтива
Captain, Air Corpe
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BROADWAY 4
Civil Air Patrol
AUXILIARY OF THE U. S. ARMY AIR FORCES
WISCONSIN WING HEADQUARTERS
161 W. WISCONSIN AVENUE
MILWAUKEE 3, WIS.
7 July 1947
Recewed AFBIR-CO
SUBJECT: Report on 21/1n Saucers.
T0:
Commanding Genernl
32d AAT Base Unit
Bolling Tield
Washington, D. C.
1. Followin: are statistion regarding reports by four
witnesses wille in 111 ht in two airplanes.
Weather CAYU. Visibility exceptionally good. Sent-
tered altocuulus 6000 feet.
3•
First reportatime 1145 hours CST.
Alt. of observers
800 feet above the ground. Altitude of seucer 4000 febt VSu.
Observed-period - First sighted over Koshiconong, Wisconsin.
Flight was observed from town of Koshiconous to alchorn, Wisconsin.
This flight covered twenty-five (25) miles in fifteen (15) seconds,
which 1e a speed of ala thougend (6000) miles per hour.
4. Second reports Dime 1'130 hours OSI. Altitude of observers
thirty-five hundred feet (3500) VSL. Altitude of snucer twenty-five
hundred feet (2500)• Observation period. Observers at Enst froz,
Wisconsin, flight observed from Engle, Wisconsin to Mueleso, Wisconsin•
This 111ght covered twenty-two (22) miles in twenty (20 seconds, which
1s a speed of three thousand nine hudred sixty (3960) miles ner hour.
5• Fight maneuvers: Firet observation-snucer descended verticall+
edgewise through altocunlus clouds, stopped nt four thousand (4000)
feet and assumed horizontel position and proceeded in horizontl flight
from a horizontal poeition for fifteen (15) seconds covering twenty-
five (25) miles and agnin stopped and disappeared.
Observed in horizontal flicht in a horizontnl attitude for e eriod of
twenty (20) seconds covering twenty-two (22) milea. B. the time the
pilot had removed his canera from the clove compartment of his plane,
the saucer disappenred and again rea
eared approximately ten (10) miles
farther nong its courge arter nix (6) seconds maling ith 2inal dis-
appearance.
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02
The first two obgervers vere on instructor and a student, having
just talen off fron Michom Airport.
The second two observers, one
Cap'to R. j. Southey,
hindi er,
Двір-
i senger.
Corps, MI-CAP a loison O29icor. 7x 4
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CO AAF WaSh DC atin AC/AS 2, Counter Intelligence
Divisions CA Sixth Army, Attn: AC/s, G 2; CG Hq
AMC thru Sacramento AMA, Cel1f atth Chief Security
Section
1023592
10 July 1947
Spot report.
n 8 July 47
at approximately 1550 PST Alvin E Mour-
objeat of light reflecting nature which appeared to be with-
out vertical fin or any visible wings with apparent depth
or a P 51 airplane at approximately 35,000 feot altitude
and approximate location of 34 dogreos 5 minutes latitudan
17 dogrees 30 minutes west longitude. Object was in
Bight Tor approximately 30 seconds.
Objoat was again sighted
at 15505 PST at approximately 50000 feet altitude and over
Mount Baldy approximate Jocation of 34 degrees 20 mlnuter
Iatitude-117 degrees 47 minutes west longitude.
Pilot attempted to keep object in sight but was
Speed of P 51 approximately 300 uph an
climbing. March Field and other bases in area, were contested
and reported none of their ships in tha air.
AAL
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Tha
A-, ofuins branch
Ww of Topeka (Clay Centi-Kanne)
Hyn, A lot @ 90" Boss 6. 200 mph
Nese @ Ivo a little higher
then fis set toughs is toas
a wale tower; atons a mile abay
it lacked liked a flying eving excep
it eng fly; retreally and almost
completely sound. No drunke, no
Hew he turned toward it aud
es dreappeared abnors insederkely.
He believes is races have been super
sonic beaun yapes as wik ih
disappeared;
Iris co pilot wardozing othe
me and do the tere he was behens
Me stegees diap pend.
Dujial Machin was to nos
не, моруаль to top, ten
disappears.
Landed as Hansas Ciby 1400 his
cenhal Time. This fact place apfroei3is
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FROM: CG ATID ATC FORT TOTTEN, M. I.
TIME AND DATE FILED: 1423232 JULY 1947 -
TO: CG ATC ATTN CHIEF OF STAFT
MESSAGE FROM NEWPOUNDLAND BASE COMMAND SUBJECT QUOTE FLYING DISCS UNQUOTE
GIVES FOLLOWING SUMMARY OF INTERVIEW WITH IRIC KHARSEY CMA NEWPOUNDLAND
• CONSTABULARY CIN CONSTABLE REPORTED SXEING POUR EGG SHAPE PHOSPHORUS COLOR
DISCS ABOVE GRAND FALLS NEWPOUNDLAND AT TWO THREE TERHE ZERO HOURS LOCAL
TII
NINE JULI A
ND A SINGLE DISC ONS ZERO MINUTES LATER PD AT FIRST APPRAR
ANCE ACCORDING TO KEARSEY FOUR DISCS WERE CLOSE TOGETHER IN ABLE LINS A TRAIL
FORMATION MOVING EAST PARAIJARL TO GROUND PD SINGLE DISC LESS CLEAR BUT
TRAVELING SAME DIRBOTION PD KBARSEY WOULD ROUGHLY ESTIMATE ALTITUDE OF DISCS
AT THREE ZERO THOUSAND TENT SEMICIN APPARENTLY MOVING VERY FAST AS THISY
DISAPPEARED IN ABLE FEW SECONDS PD KEARSHY SAID SHAPE OF DISC WAS LIKE
BARREL HEAD OR BIG SIMICIN BLACK SPOTS ON TALLEND SIMI CIN NO SMOKE TRAIL
SEMI CIN AND HERE REPORTED THAT ANOTHER OBSERVER COMPARED SHAPE OF DISCS TO
THRIE LHAT PD IND OF COMMUNICATION FROM NEMPOUNDIAND BASE COMMAND PD ESTAB
LISHED BY INTERVIEWER CHA NONCOM IN CHARGE REPEATER STATION GRAND FALLS CHA
THAT CAVU WAS WHATHER AT TIMES INDICATED
ATO CM-IN X0044
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SEKPHENVILL
EKPOUNDLAND
PRIORITY
TOES, AND DATE PILEDE
151915g JULY 1947
TOS
CO HQ ATO WASH 25 DE ATTI AC/S INTRLLICENCE INPO CO ATID ATC
PT TOTTEN IT IX CG NBC PT PEPPERIEL APO 862 C/O PM NEW YORK FROM CO
1588TH AAP BU
ТУ ВЕРШУ СІТЕ:
ERX 0215
POR INTRLLIGENCE PD ONE FLYING DISC, SIGHTED 20002
4O JULY 47,
BARNOW FIBID, NEXPOUNDLAND, AT APPROKTVATELY 10000 FSET, COUESEL
NORTH NORTH EAST PD UBATHERE CLAR WITH SCATTBRED CUMULUS AT 8-10000 FEBT
PD COLORA SILVERY PD DISC NAS FIRST SIGHTED ABOUT 6, MILES SOUTH SOUTH W
SET FROM HARMON FIRED BY MR MERENAN, TA TEPISSENTATIVE AND MIR
WOODRIFT, PAA IIPEESENTATIVR PD DISC APPEARED ABOUT THE SAMS SPAN AS
C-S4 AZ 10000 FERT, NAS CIRCULAR IN SHAPE LIKE WAGONS WEBEL, DISC
SINNED TO CUT THE CLOUDS OPEN AS IT PASSED THRU AND TAFT A BLUISH BLACK
TRAIL APPIOKTMATELY PIPTEEN MILES LONG PD TRAIL WAS SIMILAR TO THE
BEAN SEEN APTER A HIGH PORBIED LANDING LIGHT OR SBARCH LIGHT IS SWITCHED
OFF PD XODACHBOME PICTURES WERE TAKEN AND ARE BEING DEVELOPED STATE
SIDE PD PHOTOS WILL BE FONIARDED AS SOON AS THEY AR
RECBIVED BY
MR WOODRUFF END
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A. MUM
39E. MAINST.
FROSTIURA, MARTLAND
July 21, 1917
chief f Army Sitelligence -
• Plan
Sir:
On Junta
to Lete and.
dancer Praguerg:
- meng aled are light on?
the Flying
I crued our year - 1942 2 1906 -mith thi
icegeed to the shind Fentle and the traith ar.
19 88
at 945 AM. (OST) dunday July anthe daberned
au airtune objeet that append to be circules or
praibly mid, leght ali, to arkite in ellar, meth
near it center, flynng me a
With that big set deedin me the vene..
Se and Pitthug. be. He
a pm fly at he the able
jin.
The a buy are about theren for. A (Hi) seers
ast with Ihree chand le
5000 2. 1 so pel like a Fla La
funny evented alln
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me intel it
reached the peep, teas of as louderer when
the aft wn ove, heed. This arent mone
wit unlife thit of a fit guplled glamesp
the terrifie wilm
ally loud
Sue to the rear cist crinditin of the aby
Lucis muble to me the sirenst ...
it ow des by risible
for a perced of about tracity (20) erer. lo. the
tiraft we shone the tip mant lagery clouds
or venershere nine le
maicendy if 12a00 pl
(D57)
Mit de. at 09:47 AM. an DCH Airerft
pened over going in the see diestines and
on the come care at about sooo ft altitude.
The prenter difference are
and a herpe
- a dankarea at its center.
c- There mace no trail of ambie sealersio
wound the the got.
e. It mize, big an funera
a farmbly
Loball hold soft from ithe
He ly ander Shoe endedan
the mitter an
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this is are entirely
type f ais
cript or
1 It is a high powered jet perpelled around
the a prit ot designed to hise the tail
candly and wing tipo, wince neither were
a chechef aircraft in this area at the
and the e it le an eh to
some salle
RECEIVED
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Package received from Sheriff Merle I. Wilnoth, Watseka, Ill. His
letter states the instrument in the package was found by a farner at
Danforth, Ill. It landed in the middle of a section of his farm land and
burned weeds
22 feet tall to fine ash an area of 12 feet in diam. around
where the object dropped.
The instrument consists of:
(a) Plaster of paris body having an oval cavity thru it.
(b)
A power microphone which screws over one end of the oval cavity.
The power microphone carried the name, "Nathaniel Baldwin Inc."
salt Lake City, Utah. Pat May 10 1910 & sept l, 1916. Pat los
957403 (second nunber not readable)
(c) A small "Polymat" filter condenser.
(d) Two bakelite cylinders to which is attached a net work of fine
copper wire. These were obviously coils and the impact has torn
the wire from the core. (Our radio section definitely states that
this is old stuff, or the coils were used quite some time ago,
since having been replaced by smaller more efficient coils)
(e)
A piece of metal having magnetic properties obviously broken off
the power microphone as a result of the impact.
The plaster of paris body was broken up by the impact but some of the
pieces were held together by wire reinforcement inside the plaster of paris.
Mrs. Whedon 3B 274
Ext 73909 (jig C) was shown this object by Mr.
Zinmer of the FBI. Mrs "hedon claims she knew what it was, but couldn't
tell Zimmer.
Mays a tele
Ди Задро 24 53
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STANDARD FORM NO. 64
Office Memorandum • UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
1947 JUL 22 AM 11 44..
TO
• Mr. Moxom, Regional Office No. 1, N.Y,
DATE:
7/15/47
FROM : Mr. Wright, WBAS, Richnond, Va.
Restricted
SUBJECT:
"Flying Disks"
We hesitate to make this report coneerning our pilot balloon
observations in regards to a flying disk because of the considerable
national skepticism regarding the subject at present. However, local
newspapers inform us that the U.S. Goverment admits no authority for
..such a ship or object and for its flights. Then we must assume this
strange object to be foreign.
information.
Therefore, we submit this report for your
If sighted again, we wonder if it would be a good idea to
drop the balloon and instead make observations on this disk.
Mr. Minozewski has observed this strange metallic disk on three
occasions through the theodolite while making his pibal observation
during the last six montha. Miss Baron has reported observing it on
one occasion.
Miss Baron's report agrees with Nr. Minozewski's observations
except as to the color-which she reported as a dull metallic luster.
Mr. Minozewski last observed this disk in April 1947 at the 1100E
Pibal Observation when the balloon. was at 15 thousand feet. the disk was
followed for 15 seconds, apparently moving on level flight from east to
west to the far notth of the station.
The object was a metallic like Chrome
-shaped something like an ellipse with a flat level bottom and a dome like-round
top.
The disk appeared below the balloon, was much larger in
size in the
instrument, and shined like silver. It was impossible to estimate the height
or speed of the disk except that it appeared to be moving rather rapidly.
Miss Baron observed the disk when her balloon was at about 27 thousand feet.
All days observed were either clear or with very few clouds and good visibility.
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Very truly yours,
Brage A. Wright
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