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Mr. Tolson
Мг. Е. А.
Tamm
-
Mr. Clogg
Mr. Coffey
Mr. Glavin
Mr. Ladd
Mr.
Ni choi
Mr. Rosen
Mr. Tracy
Mr. Carson
Mr. Egan
Mr. Hendon
Mr. Pennington _
Mr. Quinn Tamm_
Mr. Nesse
Miss
e About Saucers
Pliest Finds 'Whirring' Disc
In Yard and Holds It for FBI
Chicago, July 6 (U.P).-A Catho- FBI office said he hadn't heard
lie priest at Grafton, Wis., saial yet about the disc but that an off-
cial report might be at his office.
tonight that a round, metal dise,
The flying dises have been re-
which mightibe one of the myster-
ported
"seen" by persons in
30
ious lying (aucers." had crastred
States, but Brasky's disc was the
into his parish yard and that he
first one that actually had been
is holding
for the Federal
found--if that is what war found.
Bureau of/ Investigation.
His report came a few hours
The Bey.
Joseph Brasky of St. after a military plane made
an
Grafton, 45
te hoth of Milwaukee, said he tempt to tasted destin on tie
unsuccessful speed dash in an at-
& swishing
whirring discs and the Army and scientisis
noise this morning. A second later, sought to ascertain whether coas).
he said, he
heard a thud
and a to-coast reports about the
mild explosion.
zooming through the sky were fact
He
investigated and
found a or faney.
sheet metal dise about 18 inches in
Army planes scoured the north-
diameter,
resembling a circular west Pacific skies for them without
saw blade.
success today and one "eyewitness"
"The object
still
was
warm, even reported having seen one of
weighed about four or five pounds the dises take off in Arizona.
and was about one eighth of an St. Louis railroad man exhibited
amnl
Hus
inch thick," he said.
some paper "dises" he said he had
There
was
a hole about one
seen floating over St. Louis.
inch in diameter in the middle of
the dise, he said, and in the open-
The flying saucers which have
ing
were
"gadgets
and some been reported
skimming through
wires."
America's
skies at speeds up to
The priest said he did not know
if his
discovery
were
important 1200 miles have eluded the usual-
ly keen eye of radar.
whether it might be an elab-
Capt. Tom Brown of the Army
state practical joke.
He said he
had notified the FBI of his find.
Air Forces public relations st f
H. K. Johnson of the Milwaukee]
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AGERS-From Pag
es
has
attain
missil
cof 1200
Priest Finds
"There's b
about guider
W,
said
he
In Yard and Holds
said.
Howard W.
Blakeslee,
Associ-
ated Press science editor, said the
said the Army Airways Communi-
In the wake or tnese
new eve-
fitness accounts came a new series whole business may be an optical
cations Service had reported late
illusion.
i comments, and explanations, but
yesterday that so far its radar most of them were tinged with a
"At any distance which is close
scopes
throughout
the
country
slight tendency to laugh off the
to the limit of how far a person
have been unable to pick up any
can see," he wrote,
"all objects
whole thing.
strange objects in flight.
Dr. Winfred Overholser,
nation-
appear round
or nearly so.
Th's
And in the Pacific Northwest—
ally known psychiatrist and super-
law of sight covers
both small
where most of the fly-happy plat-
intendent of St.
Elizabeths Hos-
ters have been reported-—the Army
pital here, said it "has some of the
things seen nearby and large ones
has radar equipment which can
earmarks
pierce fog and darkness and pick
teria."
of being national hys-
at great distances.
"The one outstanding fact about
up objects in the sky 200 miles
"Everytime someone
comes
up
virtually all the saucers
is that
away.
with a sea-serpent story," said Dr.
Even so, Brown acknowledged
Overholser,
"others
with
vivid
they had no structure — they
that the Air Forces had decided
imaginations are sure they
havel
seemed merely round
and
flat.
"there's
something to this"
and
seen the same thing.
That description fits exactly with
had been checking it for 10 days.
"The critical faculty in man, the
"And we still haven't the slight-
last one he received, is still
not
the tricks that eyes play.
This
est idea
what they could be,
very well developed.
Scratch the
trickiness
varies with
differences
added.
surface and you find the same mass
in weather and lighting."
And a new wrinkle-the report-
hysteria which predominated dur-
However, Nova Hart,
St. Louis
ed landing of a fleet of eight skim-ing the witcheraft scare.
Some
mechanic who was trained during
ming platters-was reported from
persons
are quite ready
to see
service in the war to spot all types
Idaho in full view of 10 persons. A.
things and follow beliefs."
of aircraft, yesterday
offered
a
Dishman,
Idaho
housewife, said
Dr. Overholser said that when
minute description of one of the
she
and others in her party had
he made his rounds of the mental
flying patterns which he claimed he
seen the saucers land on a moun-
patients yesterday at
St.
Eliza-
saw flying at an altitude of about
tainside near St. Maries, Idaho.
beths not a one commented on the
300 feet.
She said they came into view at
flying saucers story.
Reporter Sees One
an extreme speed, suddenly slowed.
"I think they may be a little
He described it as circular with
"Auttered like leaves to
skeptical," he added.
the ground."
However, Dr. Overholser said he
a ribbed
framework
and silver
gray in color.
He said it appeared
"The mysterious part was tha
wasn't trying to dismiss the matter
to have a motor with a propeller
we couldn't see them after the
as a joke
"because there are
SO
attached in the center and that it
landed," she said.
"We could se
Vany strange things going on to
kept turning like an
airplane do-
them flutter down into the timbe
ay that one
can't be sure."
ing a slow roll.
yet we couldn't see that they did
Maj. Alexander P. de Seversay,
Although
anything to the trees."
noted aircraft designer, told
many
explanations
have been offered, none has been
She said she hoped to hike into
Post by telephone from New York
convincing.
A Los Angeles news
the timber tomorrow
and search
that until he sees a flying saucer
paper quoted an unnamed nuclear
for the objects which she said were
saucer-shaped but resemoled wash-
he
"wouldn't like to pass judg-
plysicist as saying the silvery disc
tubs more than
disks and
were
ment."
resulted from experiments in the
transmutation of atomie energy."
"about the
size of a five-room
He agreed with Dr. Overholser
This report was rapidly herded
house."
that much if not all of the story
into the hoax
column by
David
Locally, Hazen Kennedy of 2615
may be because of hysteria.
Lilienthal, chairman of the Atomic
4th st. ne. reported he had seen
Commission,
and
several
"After all," he said,
Energy
one passing over
"we
are
the
Northeast
prominent atomic scientists.
section of the city at about 8:40
more or less an hysterical Nation."
Starr Expects Word
p. m
Major de Seversky said it was pos-
Louis
E
Starr, national com-
This would be the first one re-
sible that the persons who claim
mander of the Veterans of Foreign
ported over the District, although
to have seen the aerial discs have
Wars, announced Saturday at Co-
others have been reported over
instead glimpsed the
exhaust
of
lumbus, Ohio, that he was expect-
nearby Maryland.
Kennedy, who
has 125 hours
jet-propelled planes.
ing
"momentarily"
information
flying time as a student pilot in
He
conceded,
too, + that
they
from Washington which would ex-
the Army Air Forces to his credit.
might be guided missiles let loose
plain the dashing discs. But the
said
he
believed
the saucer he
as part of
an experiment, but
message never arrived.
The Air Forces said that Gen.
had
seen was traveling at
"well added:
over" 1000 miles an hour at an
"I don't think the Government
Carl Spaatz, Air Forces chief, was
altitude of between 1200 and 1500 would fire them so promiscuously.
in the Pacific Northwest
where
most of the saucers have been re-
They would test them in one spot,
feet.
"The best way I can describe it," in an isolated area, like they did
ported,
but added that his
trip
there
was
planned two months
said Kennedy,
"was that it looked the atomic bomb."
ago, long before the saucers scare.
like an orange lamp bulb without
Maj. Gen. Curtis E. LeMay, who
General Spaatz is expected back in
the socket. It was going faster than as Deputy Chief of Air Staff for
Washington late tomorrow.
any jet plane I've ever seen."
Research and Development would
Muroc Army Air Field in Call-
Mrs. Mar
in dare on a raine in 214
know if the saucers involved
ex-
tornia had a P-80 jet fighter standr
periments
with
racing in 2-15
commented:
guided missiles,
ing by, and the National Guard i
Gregon had prepared six regula
ormation at "terrific speed." frot
"Whatever these people
have
er backporch.
"They sounded like
fighters
to give
chase
should
seen it hasn't been anything re-
saucers be reported nearby. +
a faraway train," she said.
sulting from experiments by the
Army Air Forces.
As for as I'm
concerned there's nothing
to it
at all.
The whole thing is un-
toftinate
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Dear 21. B
UNICAMION
ANCHYNOUS
OPE ATTACHED
Iti my sparion about
those flying dies" reposted
V, Dentity, new mexico,
California, regon, Washinglon,
Jalaho, Colorado, Southo Carolinia
and Castern Canada that some mope
- an outing is wing chome frea
miles they digo cheri contente and
dissappear.
63J11 lost suggeit that you key
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lote
disenfer nt on ha
....-
Ovelse something might hagen
to us in the
U led Males.
trom •
a faind
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Mr. Tolson
Mr. E. A. Tamm
Clegs
Glavin
Ladd
Nichols
Resen
JUL 8
1947
ovin
TELETYPE
Mr. Garnea
Mr. Harbo
Mr.
Monr
Mr. Penninston
Mr. Quins Tamm
FBI
NEW
ORLEAN
7-8-47
11-22 AM
T™C
DIRECTOR
ROUTEIN
RE FLYING DISCS, MISCELLANEOUS •
DISC
Date
REPORTED FOUND BY F. G
HARISTON
REVEALED TO BE PRANK SOU CENS
WEEKS
Flying
aucers sine
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BY SPECIAL MESSENGER
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August 5, 1947
Director of Intelligence
War Department General Staff
The Pentagon
Washington 25, D. C.
Attention: Colonel I. R. Forney, Chief, Security Group
rom:
John Edgar Hoover - Director, Federal Bureau of Investigation
abject: FRED R. REIBOLD
There are attached hereto copies of a letter received fron the
above-captioned individual, together with copies of a newspaper
pping
enclosure, concerning "flying discs."
Mr. Redbold's letter has been acknowledged and he has been advised
wat goptes of hia letter have been furnached to you for your confide ration.
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Federa Bureau of Anertifalioi
Vashinglon 2, C
Yentlenan:
on luly 1ch 1947, 10:30 P.M.
Keitrune Aniffen my mocher in les
and witnened a flaming object
which dropped in street in port
остана No ск 2215 irmbange an
upon cranenation, the offect
was soled and had four of round
arula dise,
use o a silver dollar and
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the offect per and in fell into
pecer
When the reporter arrever he
scooper up the fragments and
said he would
You attention no derecter to
Attached analysis.
There were sex people who
aCtually saw the offect and
an seati
We dea nos clam a was
one o the so called lyrig sauces
г ину дись рвинотела вих еле
ded want some!
explantion because
rad apped on a
would have Certainly
We can defensily ady it
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was nor tobacco ashes ai
Is parnes with such extreme
hear as to scorch pagement on and
near pageaned chee u let
Possibly thes could have
ти ало силад рт
bul ar any nate we are calling
N to yur altention as the
ansver the learned " de Kenn
fours sencere
WER RIBALD
Fred Aruball
2915. Нітьсь але
eucha retra
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Flying Saucer' Just
Someone's Pipe Dream'
The "flying saucer" that fell
near
2319
'Himebaugh Avenue
Monday
evening was
nothing
but "ashes from somebody's pipe
dream."
So says Dr. C. L. Kenny, head
of the chemistry department at
the Creighton
College of Den-
tistry. He had two students an-
alyze the ashes. They found so-
dium, potassium,
iron,
alumi-
nam, carbonate, sulphate and un-
burnt carbon, he said.
"This is the same analysis you
would get from ordinary pipe to
bacco,"
Dr. Kenny said.
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lear Mr
-TON
GI. R.
ANONYMOUS
ATTAUG
set haue also seem a fyny saucer -
tha
Reuering of gly 4- about 1039pm - only
ih was in the air at the same level as
two obvious partione of light in the
search light beams from the air file
wreas Lake It clair. I was setting on my
parch at the time.
could
A few trucks could
with proper equipment create the
same illusion. There were two clearly
sullied beans - one partly faded out to the lee
The Dam
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peared vers
the
third beam faded out from the ground
to the saucer.
KHOORDINE
Recently
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distreased she
The Piro na N
being due ent
and JUL, 221947.
to natural plenonema.
cs. arde
that aliye, the bout
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Mr. g. Ealgar Noouer
Wackington, s.a.
• Personal atteution.
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Mr. J. Edgar Hoover, Director
Federal Bureau of Investigation
U.S. Dept. of Justice Bldg.
Washington, D. C.
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EURE ENVBLOPE ATTAOHED
July 1l, 1947.
81/1
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SAUCE
Dear Sir:
Have you seen one of the mysterious "Saucers"?
What did it look like?
Do you think these strange, celestial manifesta-
tions are harbingers of a better day?
Do you believe it means that a new and revolutionary
advance is coming?
Will it make your life brighter, happier, more
useful?
We believe one of these startling discs is on its
way to you. Then the secret will be out.
The Combined and Amalgamated Committee
of Sky-Scanners, Disc Decipherers and
New-Product Introducers.
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Boston mao
Dear Sir;
July 14,42.
G. I. R. -5
May 9 call your
kind altention tothe
heartlera criticiam
in some paper,
o people ho re - »
parted the Tyingo,
especially,
SnoRe in the
1933. 1628114-
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Family,
by a writer c
Kinken.
also, an
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¡aporgy in theo
Boston
Post" this weele,
This criticism
of people who make
there reports is very
unfair, Everyone:
jerychiatrists damned
them, publicly, in
articles, It is a
people
• will happen when
thin are needed, a
they babl
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will not, sother
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STANDARD FORM NO. 64
Office Memorandum • UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
TO
: MR. D. M. LADD
FROM
: H. B. FLETCHER
SUBJECT:
DATE: July 7, 1947
Mr •
Tolson
A.
FEEEEEEEEEE
CLege
At 10:45 a•l., July 7, 1947, I talked to SAC Johnson of the
Milwaukee Office concerning the United Press item appearing in the
Washington Post for Monday, July 7, with reference to a flying disc
or flying saucer allegedly reported to the Milwaukee Office by
Reverend Joseph
Brasky of St. Joseph's Church, Grafton, Wisconsin.
SAC Johnson advised that the Associated Press and the United
Press between the hours 1:00 and 6:00 a.M. today had made inquiry off
him as to whether anything had been reported to the Milwaukee Offices
He declined to comment.
He stated as a matter of fact the priest had
not made any contact with him, and he learned from the Associated Press
that the priest was intoxicated and as far as the Associated Press was
concerned they were not releasing the story because all that was involved
was a circular saw. Mr. Johnson stated the Milwaukee Sentinel apparently
sent the report out and that they handled United Press service. He stated
a photograph of the priest was in this morning's paper holding a circular
saw which apparently covers the body of the priest from arm pit to arm pit.
Attached to the saw are several wires and two small tubes described as
about three inches long and one inch in diameter.
Milwaukee Sentinel indicates it was believed some prankster had thrown it
into the yard, perhaps with a firecracker attached. Mr. Johnson stated the
Milwaukee Sentinel had stated the priest would make a report of this matter
today to the Milwaukee Office. I instructed SAC Johnson in the event the
priest made a report to furnish details of the report immediately, but in
view of the nature of the information in his possession, no inquiry should
be conducted at the present.
HBF : cmw
Egan
Hendon
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pentlemen:
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they did start in
lexan city
- demach
the factory.
like that, We do
not know no are
them. Now got no
ransars and Broad
• towes
needles
eeing got the lichate
pant tram the
rung
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she elecktrn and
ins
e and is talking wil
Ms. .
In the Broadcast -
ing Station and
seamo Begister pres,
3
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4
and with the Old
ubishon residence.
and with the cale-
drale priests.
The alamo Broad
asting ie areate wit,
and the men.
ale now sick
gramon ne blind
and thy tolk with us
And thee are two emer
ting and posing togethe
and we can heare them.
che arbishop is bad
unmoral
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5
In thre alls arbi
shops residence are
some priests,
One ins
name Morko-
to
ky, hy is bad mar
Hi was in care wreck
with arbishops care and
his mother
rom that time m
> leave in the des
so all the people luck
5
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the Cathedsale
, are men ar
erman ane
the all are workine
name the dami grege
that i saint
tas people meting
And am ending with
wareas ;
Reeménber Alamo
and texas City.
Mrs, Amma Beny
me Joe Beny
MRS. ANNA#BENYS
MR.
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set Home Boy
FIRST ITS FLYING DISKS - NOW
•Winner In
ITS "FIRE BALLS" PEOPLE
i SER
say Contest
A lot of Texans are disk-gust-
with the
flying
It was the first time the aerial
but objects were reported in that a-
Residents
ie second time in the past
Flying balls of fire circled a
Cre condents ty, 15 miles
Brushy
wide aten around Palestine, aud
east or Latesults
called Sheriff
of months a Sweet Home
some nerroes, believing the enc
Stanford about. 8:30
LaSt
has brought nonor. to his
holastic acclaimhimself
unitv by winnno iteram
of the world was near, began
savino 19 halls were tirine in o
praying. A white
grabbed
a rifle and shot at the myster-
tren, this oper the community
ious oblects
tormed a
Anthony
Sheriff Paul Stanford of An-
circle which began mov.
ing toward Palestine
nigh schoel graduate whe
a schel arshm to A and
derson County described them as
By 9 p. m. hundreds of Pales
ge. Now
word
acaches 11
orange basketballs of fire.
tine spectators reported seeing as
many as three
balls in the
Brenek, eleven-yea,
of Mr
and Mrs.
lek of Sweet Home
nas oech
Revealing Flying
at once, moving in a
in the shy
It stantord ascounted any
sus
gestion that the balls originated
sense. Di1ze 0f.9 525 09V119
1 in the
KTRH Farm Essay
Disk Data May
from a spotlight
Bud Everett, druggist,
chason
them for a better view. He said
annis won sixth place with his
They tinallv disappeared aboub 1
in the mb the Fam aid Bring Prosecution
p. m.
Rost Serve the Harm 2nd
Mrs. Horace Valentine said she
Farm Home." In commenting
perfectly
round
UH Farm and Ranch Director
Anyone willfully
that "
nearly scared me to death'
ine lntormation
essav
on
when they
8d: "Your
i defensa or security of the nation
Then they appeared omen
over her
excel ant ideas which
et to use in future farm pro-
- even in time of peace
be playing with
each other, the
subjeet to a fine of $10,000 and
way they jumped
imprisonment of 10 years,
aceord-
around
Her husband
and Lee Chavers
nothing
to Jennis.
who. in 1940. won
istered pig
with
an essay
ed in the
February
he
a calf in the Hallettsville
aub show.
and ont. of
starded he
took
fifth
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shot a box of 22 rifle bullets
District Attorney Joseph .W Cash
without any effeet on the objeets.
tthe bresent mystery of tiv
Mrs, Valentine said neighbor
ine disks are connected with re
ing negro families thought the
world was comins to
Elle law
might apply, he
said.
2n1d began nraving as the bals
the aw applies whether
the
of fire gamboled overhead.
information is released accident
Mrs
ally. 'through gross neghgence,"
Brenek is Sweet Home's
"with intent to injure the U-
red ball streaking overhead last
nistress
nited States or aid
natco States or aid to me forei
foreign
n19ht.
Mrs Marian Reed. tarm wite
The Atomic Enerey Act of 1946
found what she believed was part
provides even stricter penalties
of a flying disk. It landed in her
revealing information
Mr.
GrOWing Lah art, public hares par the
back yard while she was hanging
out the clothes vesterday after
Seventy-Ninth Congress provides
noon
She
admitted.
she
death or ate moisonment. after
frightened. She deseribed it as a
mateurs' Display
ano nroepse of aw. for diselosing
piece of tinfoil eight inch-
atomie information
with intent to es wide
injure the United
scorched
burned
round the edges. Both sides wer
‹cellent Form
FOr
acclaenta
disclosures
shinv.
out one side was marked
with haer ctencilen ines a anar
ine of nu to 240.000
and an
prisonment up to 20 years
are
ter-inch apart. She said the tin-
provided, Mr. Cash pointed out.
akum setthall teams showed
the dropped straight down from
She lifted it with a stick, put
of good playing in the gomes
ad at the Bulldog
Stadium
Gas Truck Hits
"it in a tin can. and trove tive
miles to Gunter, 20 miles south
west of Sherman, Scores crowded
•teams. orpanized hr van
mezchants and eoncerns
composed of members
m, Local Station
about
to see
At talisa, Collin County, Mrs.
Mame Kitten and Mis. Kav orati
amateur
standing who have
reported seeing a strange object
A pasoline trailer truck of the
some previous experience with
8:40 p.
lavor Concolanted Transnorto
Motor sencel hall
playing.
Charles
yesterday
Calhoes, and his fati-
vever, some
players
van into a heavy pipe upright in
W. J
expert
front of Rohan's Service Statio
Grayson county
mathou prominent
Tarmers
ling and
doing
some damage
to they saw a disk yesterday nea
hard to believe they are no
asionals out of plaee.
The
truck.
chants who organized
these
The truck was
coming
alono. West Grand.
as ate certainly coino them
se toward providing reereation
turned into the station. As the
me Cuero Residents
lities for the young people
driver eut the cab back to swing
ommunity, and are
trailer into position, the cab
ohmented on their line work
skidded into the
steel olve 100
sunport on the right of the truck
See Flying Disc
er merchants or concerns who
hending
considerahi
h to moanize a team
me T
n all the
particulars
Cuero has finally produced its
truck itself suffered a bent bum
inst Fluine dise
ph MeMaster
at the Firestone
It was reperted by Mrs. F. W.
Street,
1101
gasoline pump directly behind the
Haak of 410 Stockdale street, and
unmight was net damaged hy the
ociate Stora on West Grand
crash.
both she and her husband saw it
However, Mrs.
Haak's
flying
boys or men wishing to pla:
dise is no narticular mysterv
to
of the
lication at the Firestone Store,
k's, Rohan's
store Lions To Make
her.
cho thinks she knows jus
what caused it
service station.
It was simply a reflection front
Hamiltons ewelrv Store.
ding on the player's choice of
to pla
with.
There
* Farmer Award
an airplane, she said
Sitting on the porch with her
hashend ahont 40:m.
plenty of room
for
good
Mrs. Haak said she
heard
ers. so anvone interested Is
The Lions Club has announced!
trange
noise from the sky, ane
on to contact one
cokea u0. 500!
Tnocdor Inle 15th it mil nre
into view, higl
1n
one game is
definitely
ed one ranet is efinitely
sent to Lee Pargmann of Route
was very small. out plainlv
dis-
cernable as a plane, she said. It
Farmer for the Middle Guadalup
Monday nicht. whet
The "Tre
e Store will tangl
Basin Sorenservation Distrter.
was coming from the east. inst
with the
Soon it turned north,
zales Dr.
Peppe
ht Lack'
Tuesdat
ociate Store
will
to The plaque is given each ser
after that a perfect dise was vis
thie
some distance
TrOn
where
Talmer from
each conser
vation distriet who has contribut
the
plane disappeared into
v. but their opponent has
af most to the coll concontation
I clouds
n named vet Also. on "nurs
moht tho Wirestata toam will
projects in the particular distriet
The dise appeared bright ar
play a game, but no team
The award is
silvery.
oppose
ber of organizations, among then
very silvery. It appeared dinam
the Lions Clubs
On Friday night of this week
ot the vamou
steering wheel
of a car,
Mrs.
ame will he naved. but.
towns Sinee the Lions do play ay
as who will participate have
active part in sponsoring this a
Haak reported. It seemed to bi
been listed yet.
ward, the local club is
"floating"
across the
hearens.
hese oames
will start about
ward, the lopt chat is gie ph the
She called her
husband's
at-
each Light. Everyone is in-
to Mr. Pargmann
tention to it
After
They
hoth saw.
five
and cheer
•for his
Representatives of the Soil Con- dise was gone. The plane and the
No admission will be charg
servation Service will be present
sound disappeared.
to make short congratulatory and
Mas Haak1s
convinced
the
explanatory speeches on the giv
flying saucer was reflected from
1o of the annnal aware
CURITY MAN
BE HERE
nurnose of receivino elsims and
I. Davis, tiel representa-
discussing Old Age and Survivors
with
all who wish to
San Antonio Social Seeu-
nice. Wi de in Loakum al
Davis will not be able to fur
tv Hall at 8:30 a.m.,
Wed-
uish mtormation concernmo Oid
July 23, 1947,
for
the Age Assistance pensions.
the
airplane. This theory also has
seen advanced by others.
The flying dise mystery has the
stan in a dither with reports
coming from all sections on
strange
objects.
Mrs.
. Haak's ex
planation to us, reaso mble te thy
Ivet out torch.
solution to the phenomenon,"
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Norman Thomas
J. MALEC,
debate about Russia
Editor-Manager
mas questions gave
Largest guaranteed circulation of
John L. Lewis calls
the
ny puclication in this section
new labor law a "slave law"
"I seriously ques
Zeraid Est.
1897
mimes Est. -
- -1892
The big trusts had undoubt-
ested in world domina
Gonzoidated Oct. 25, 1943
edly the same idea about the
ing to rehabilitate the
says Wallace, just w]
emuscantion Ra.a
eo50 anti-trust laws
when
first
Published every Tuesday and Fri-
introduced. And what are ths
What happened
tay morning
810-813 Lott St.,
Soakunt,
exas.
trusts compared to the harm country,
Hungary, and what ta
should be b
Covering
Lavaca
and DeWitt
the unions can do with their
what the Reds say,
strikes?
"And, once agai
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inder the Act of March 3, 1897.
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If the new labor laws
ference between the
are "slave laws", so
are
of Hitler Germany,
in government strue
the anti-trust laws and any
other laws for the protec-
What Hitler stc
tion of people against a-
simple, and lar mort
age. But when Russia
buses by any group. So far
the same.
the people were
utterly
helpless against the labor
As to Russian tac
they don't differ greal
power.
* Ra *
When independence is
Such labor
dictators
and maintained in Gree
ing to Wallace's reasor
Lewis, Petrillo, others, have
a far greater power to harm
But since the Rec
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mocracy.Ius very sim
this country than the British to suit the purpose. E
king ever had. This is just
Whiskies, Wines
as untolerable today as
Moseow's fifth column,
ard Gins
was then.
Wallace talks of hi
sistance and sincere pi
R. * DARLING
PACKAGE STORE:
Last Sunday was, for the
people." How can Wall
British, a national
Dav
of
Russia will take
Prever. The kin? with Prime without changing in t
and
other And now can he the
government leaders went to when there cannot be
Chas. Micek
Your WATKINS
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Pinnne, hou.W
St. Paul's Cathedral to pray less,
voiceless, and cut
with the nation for help in any friendship reach t
these ominous times.
Wallace is not sc
politics evidently mea
helping to divide Amer
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Not so long age England
went through
the
most
desnerate struggle in hen
whole history.
The peace
is not yet established and
even
greater menace
threatens
the
people
of
Ungland and elsewhere to
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The oldest - Chevrelet tr
Here, too many
do nor.
entered in the recent
fully realize today's danger.!
a 1918 1-ton
model. The
We
suffered comparatively truck was
little and
the
Red
threat
2019
in
Chevrolet's
seems to he
But Calitornia piant.
that does not minimize
truck is owned and
by Mi. Leslie A. Storey
We need to jace the menace
with the
Montana; and the entry
same seriousness
mitted through
Pioneer
the British people with their the Chevrolet dealer in ti
lendere manifested last Sun- which is locates in our Sa
day. For, we cannot escape
Sity Zone.
The winnere hash
Advance-Design Chevrolet
It cannot be said anymore will
be presented to Mr.
that the stories of the "fly- by
Chewe et Meter Divisi
ino disks"
is mere
fiction.
Mewo
Sahan
6000 Ch
One disk was found by
trucks were entered from
tions of the
Pelly man, near Houston. On
hrasd onhha interact Ent
it was a warning about its eluded more than 50-1919
military secret and that the
till in operation,
Army Air Force at Spokane,
man 92ed012
Washington be
notified
at months after the winning
The
once.
uncks entered In the searc
So the mysterious disks
bility of Chevrolet trucks
are not messengers
Mars or some other
star.
Nor are they missiles
which Red Russia
is
al-
ready showering upon us.
They are our own secrets
with
which
armed
forces are experimenting.
What propels them?
How
far can they fly? What is
M
their purpose? —That is a
mighty secret.
It is a French paper
Just
Paris that claims that Ame-
rica has a far more destruc-
tian hamh than anty evey in.
vented before. In one blow it
could destroy all
f Poric
or Moscow. This is also con-
firmed by Robert M.
Hut-
chins of the University
of
Chicago, familiar with
what
Men
C
goes on here. We can thank
only the
good
Providence
that this immense power is in
our hands. "
Writes John Fisher in his
book "Why
They
TAL Puccians".
"Officially
religion is still regarded as
deplorable
superstition
and church-goers can never
hope to gain admittance
the Communist Party."
Yet what do you find in
this country? Even cer-
have
only praise for the
mala
which
very
Lava
The
The
eyedudles
Christian, but they
demn their fellow
con-
Chris.
tians, instead of the Reds.
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let"
Speaking at Castelgandolfo, his
as
an
summer home, Pius All asserted
that the world today has men who
on
ignore not only the Church, but the
ed
"very rudiments of religion itself;"
in.
men
who see no evil in evil deeds
rd
and lust and would
spurn "the
ve
primary norms of morals and jus-
as
tice;" "there are cynics who would
16.
deride holy things and weak men
nat
m-
who would permit these offenses
to pass.
vin
Despite this turmoil, His Holi-
an
ness said,
"there are
great rays
the
of hope and fields white with har-
in
vest for those who labor to bring
she
Christ to the world." He stressed
Ipe
the oath of the Jesuits, which en-
cor
ables them to bring "a spirit pre-
In-
pared and prompt to obey in all
se-
things the true Spouse of Christ
... our holy Mother Church."
In another audience, held for the
Most Rev. Emmanuel
Suarez, O.P.,
and the Dominicans who elected
UnEr
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'Saucer' Stories
Disk Found Is
toward the eouth and disappeared.
she said.
It was flying high and
appeared illuminated, according to
Mrs. Hoffman.
"It looked like a small meat plat-
ter," Mrs. Hoffman asserted.
Glenn Rowden of Detroit claimed
he saw a "saucer," about 50 inches
Priest Hears a 'Bang,
Tries to Call FBI Man
in diameter, over Billy Mitchell field
Father Brasky said he did not
at 10:05 p.m. when he alighted from
Discovers a Circular
an airplane. He said it was in sight
bother to show the disk to any of his
for 90 seconds.
parishioners Sunday. He tried to
Blade With Teeth;
telephone an FBI agent whom he
William Humphrey, who lives
knows, but was unable to reach him
with his wife in a quonset hut at
Other Disks 'Seen'
Sunday, he added. Asked whether
3148 S. 20th st., telephoned police
it could have been the work of a
at 9 p.m. Sunday that he and Mrs.
Picture on Picture Page
practical joker, Father Brasky re-
Humphrey had seen a slightly illu-
The "what is it?" which Father
plied: "Could be. I don't know."
minated disk which appeared to fall
The disk, apparently of steel, had
to earth near Pulaski high school.
Joseph Brasky said he found early
a one and three-eighth inch'hole in
Mrs. Humphrey said Monday that
Sunday on the lawn of St. Joseph's
the center. Through it ran a few
her husband tried unsuccessfully, to
Catholic church in Grafton may be
wires.
To each end of the cluster
photograph the disk.
of wires was attached what looked
Changed Colors, He Says
just another gadget to add to Fa-
like a small condenser about three
ther Brasky's already sizable col-
inches long. The condenserlike ob-
Orwin Rottman, 1328 N. 19th s
lection.
jects were wrapped in black tape
laimed he saw three of them flyin
Those who saw it Sunday
said
which still was sticky. The disk was
through the air in a northwester y
greasy
and
direction at 6 p.m. Sunday.
"what is it?" was a circular saw
somewhat
dirty
Stamped
on it was:
"Approved,
turned from orange to gold to siley
blade with a few wires attached.
Dunlap."
before disappearing, he said.
Father Brasky, who said he knew of
Father Brasky declined to part
Reports came also from Janes-
no sawmills in the area, would not
with the disk.
He showed a number
ville, where Mr. and Mrs. Alva Sie-
claim it was a "flying saucer" when
of items in his trinket collection.
vert and Mr. and Mrs. Howard Roth
he called
newspapermen to his
All of them had something to do
reported seeing a flying disk about
home.
with fishing, Father Brasky's favor-
11:35 p.m.
Saturday.
The Roths
"It may or may not be one of those
ite sport.
They included his "bass
were leaving the Sievert home when
flying disks that have been report-
bottles," beer bottles with the head
Sievert saw it, according to Roth
er all over the country," he said.
"Tet's just call it a 'what is it?""
of a fish-and a fish pole from
It appeared to be several thousand
Manila which folds up into a cane.
feet up and about 10 miles away,
Meanwhile,
Milwaukee
and
Roth said. He described it as vague-
When opened, it extends to 12 feet.
other points in Wisconsin,
several
ly resembling the moon and as hav-
persons
reported seeing the "flying
"I use it in reaching folks whe ling a regular motion in a counter-
can't be touched with a 10 foot pole.
saucers."
Father
clockwise, elongated orbit.
Brasky's disk,
Father Brasky quipped.
It ap-
however, was the only case here in
peared to Roth to be moving faster
which the "landing" of a "saucer"
Others Report "Saucers"
than an airplane.
He said it was
was reported.
Father Brasky also passed out
yellow on its face, but when it
turned it looked silver.
Hears "Bang," Finds Disk
copies
of his recent publication,
"Fish Tales."
Roth said that the four of them
Father Brasky gave the follow-
viewed the disk for 10 minutes.
"I'm going to revise this thing,"
ing account of how he found the ob-
he explained.
"T've got some new
Stopped in Sky, Claim
ject, a steel plate 19 inches in di-
and better tales to put in it."
"It fluttered around, faded out
ameter, about an eighth of an inch
There were other reports around
and came back again, and once 1
thick and with saw teeth
Milwaukee and Wisconsin of "fly-
just stopped and hung there fo
"I usually get up about 5 a.m. on
ing saucers."
Mrs. Anthony Hoff-
about two minutes," Roth said. "The
Sundays.
I was at the front door
man, 3410 W. Layton av., said she
of my house, about to take my dog
and her husband saw one at 8:25
last time we saw it, it had a very
out for a walk, when I heard a
p.m. Sunday flying toward Billy
- Turn to page 3, col. 5
'bang!' like a big firecracker.
Mitchell field from the northwest.
stepped outside and found this disk
When it neared the field, it veered
on the church lawn.
"Although the grass was still wet
from the night rain, the disk was
too hot to pick up. I noticed the
glass ball had been knocked off one
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'Saucer' Tales
Buzz in State
Disk Found by a Priest
Is Circular Saw; Others
Seen by Milwaukeeans
From page 1, column 3
noticeable tail. When it disap-
peared entirely, it just popped out."
Janesville police reported a tele-
phone call from a Dick Thompson,
who said he saw flying disks about
12:15 a.m. Sunday.
At Oshkosh, Mrs. L. A. Davis re-
ported that she and her husband had
sighted one of the mysterious disks
whizzing over the city at 6:45 p.m.
Sunday.
She said they were driving on a
town road six miles west of Osh-
kosh, headed east toward the city,
when they first sighted the obiect
"flying very fast and very high."
At first, she said, it looked like an
airplane and then loomed larger and
larger until it "appeared as big as
the sun."
Stops Car, Disk Vanishes
Her husband stopped the car so
that they could get a better look at
the disk, which appeared round and
silvery, but by the time they got out
of the
car
the object had dis-
appeared, she said.
At Green Bay, Eugene Le Plant
reported that he and his 12 year old
son, Duane, had seen a rapidly mov-
ing silver ball or disk about 6:30
p.m. Wednesday while working in
his garden on the western edge of
the city.
Le Plant said he saw the
object
silhouetted against a dark
cloud to the north and that he and
his son watched it for three or four
minutes while it moved away to the
northwest
Le Plant said he couli
not estimate
the altitude or dis
tance, but that it "definitely was not
an airplane."
Laws of Eyesight Clarif.
Reports of Flying Saucers
By HOWARD W. BLAKESLEE
Many descriptions of move-
Associated Press Science Editor
New York, N. Y. - The flying
ments of the flying saucers fit
saucers may be explained by cer-
with the common maneuvers of
tain laws of eyesight.
airplanes, singly or in groups.
All objects appear round or
Some of the maneuvering report-
nearly so at any distance close to
ed, which took saucers out of sight
the limit of how far a person can
and back into sight again, resem-
see.
bles what can be, seen
while
If the objects are seen by re-
watching distant airplanes.
flected light, as in most cases re-
Whether planes are guided, pi-
ported, they are almost certain to
lotless or jet, they all would look
be round, and if the reflections
the same at great distances.
are sunlight then the sizes report-
ed are those which would be ex-
pected from distant light reflec-
tions.
Descriptions of virtually all the
saucers as round and flat fit ex-
actly with the
tricks
that eyes
play.
This trickiness varies with
differences in weather and light-
ing.
This writer has seen flying sauc-
ers over Long Island sound, not
only this year but in previous
years.
They were round, bright
and moving fast. But they were
no mystery because they were
light reflected from the bodies of.
airplanes that soon identified
themselves by
changing course
and coming near enough to be
seen distinetly.
Mirages, Traveler Says
Philadelphia, Pa. -(P)- Dr. Aurel
Aczel, editor of a Hungarian lan-
guage newspaper, expressed belief
that the flying saucers were mi-
rages-possibly circularly distort-
ed
reflections
of real airplanes
many miles away.
A world-wide
traveler, Dr. Aczel said:
"Years ago I have seen similar
things on the Egyptian desert and
on the Buszta (Hungarian plain).
At sea I have also seen mirages of
ships known to be a great distance
away.
"In July and August, and some-
times even in June, atmospheric
conditions are especially adapta-
ble to the creation of mirages."
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Who, what, where, why are flying disks? The year's biggest mystery produced
these Sunday photos while reports came from everywhere and everyone that
the saucers were everywhere. Top left, a movie camera is fitted to a P-51 fighter
plane at Portland, Ore., as Oregon national guard planes are made ready to chase
the disks. Lower, Mrs. Walter Johnson (right) of Spokane, Wash., and her chil-
dren pose and tell how they saw the saucers land on a mountainside in Idaho and
disappear. Right, is Father Joseph Brasky of St. Joseph's Catholic church at
Grafton, Wis., with the disk he reported struck his church early Sunday. It
turned out that the disk was a prankster made projectile, featuring a Dunlop cir-
cular saw blade. Note that something apparently took a glass ball off one of the
lightning rods. A whole lot of Milwaukeeans reported that they saw the saucers
traveling past Sunday night.
-AP Wirephotos and Journal Staff
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Seen in 36 States;
Jet Fighters
Alerted •
SAN FRANCISCO, July 6-(7P)
- Military aircraft hunted the
shes over Pacific Coast state!
oday for sight of the mysteriou
"ying saucers" that for 12 days
have puzzled the entire country.
Early reports of results were
SEEN IN 36 STATES.
First
sighted
June 25 and
greeted generally with scornful
laughs, the objects have been re-
ported every day since by observ-
ers in 36 states. Most of the ob-
jects were reported seen July 4.
A few were reported yesterday.
Such competent observers as
airline pilots said they had seen
the totally unexplained discs or
saucers, larger than aircraft and
Five P-51s of the Oregon Na-
tional Guard cruised over
Cascade Mountains of Washing-
ton-the area where the strange
objects first were reported sight-
ed. A sixth circled over Portland,
in constant radio contact with the
graphic equipment.
Col. G. R. Dodson, command-
ing, described their flight as
"routine patrol," but said
they
had been instructed to watch for
the flying discs.
wl Manhattan Beach, Calit, A.
McKelvey took a Mustang
fighter plane up above Van Nuys
For two hours he cruised at 35:
ood feet, but "didn't see a thing."
Gen. Carl Spaatz, commandan?
of the Army Air Forces, was on a
Pacific
Northwest fishing
trip.
He
denied knowing anything
about the flying discs — or ot
plans to use AAF planes to look
for them.
JET FIGHTER SET
"I've been out of touch with
things for four or five days,"
he said.
Louis E. Starr, national com-
mander-in-chief of the Veterans
of Foreign Wars, yesterday in Co-
lumbus, O., said he understood
Spaatz had a "group out right
now" looking for discs.
At Muroc Army Air Field in
California a P-80 jet fighter stood
ready to take off the moment any
flying saucers are sighted in that
area.
flying-in "loose formation" at
high speed.
David Lilienthal, chairman of
the Atomic Energy Commission,
said they had nothing to do with
atomic experiments, and Army
and Navy officials also entered
positive disclaimers.
Newspaper stories quoting an
unidentified California Institute
of Technology scientist as saying
the phenomena might have some-
thing to do with experiments in
"transmutation of atomic energy"
caused a brief sensation late yes-
terday. The institute quickly de-
fled the report.
Reports generally agreed that
the flying objects were round or
oval.
Estimates of
their speed
ranged from about 300 to 1,200
miles
an hour.
They were de-
scribed as flying with an undu-
lating motion at heights of 10,000
feet and less.
Some
described
them as glowing, or luminous.
PROPELLER IN CENTER'
Nova Hart, St. Louis mechanic
who was trained during
in the war to
spot all types of
aircraft, said he saw one of the
strang
objects near Pattonville
Testerday.
It was flying at 300
eet, he said.
He described it as circular, with
a ribbed framework and silver
gray in color.
Hart said it ap-
peared to have a motor with a
propeller attached in the center
and it kept turning like an air-
plane doing a slow roll.
A
cautious attitude marked
both official and scientific com-
ments, but Capt. Tom Brown pf
star in ores Pull
Air Forces Public Relatiogs
edged the Air Forces had decided
"there's something to this" and
had been checking up on it for
10 days.
6 0 0CT 1 - 1947-2
First, published reports of the
phenomena
occurred June 25.
Kenneth
Arnold, Boise, Ida.,
businessman pilot, told of seeing
nine of the discs flying in forma-
tion at 1,200 miles an hour over
the Cascade Mountains in Wash-
ington.
SEEN BY 200
Arnold's account was taken
lightly.
Various
explanations
were offered-"reflections," "per-
sistent vision," "snow blindness."
Soon afterward other individ-
uals-in New Mexico, Missouri,
California and other states-re-
ported they also had seen the
flying objects.
Then on Independence Day 200
persons in one group and 60 in
another saw them in Idaho. Hun-
dreds of others in Oregon, Wash-
ington and other western states
reported seeing them.
July 4 also brought first re-
ports of the flying discs
east of the Mississippi.
Since
then they have been reported seen
n widely separated
sections
of
the country-in 33 states in all.
'Must Be Insane'
LONDON, July 6-(P)-Don't
mention those flying saucers on
this side of the Atlantic
unless
you're prepared for an argument
about your sanity.
Maybe they have been seen by
sober citizens over a vast area
of the United States, but Europe
won't believe in them until some-
body lassoes one and has it photo-
graphed by Frank Sinatra, the
Supreme Court justices.
"America's reply to the Loch
Ness monster,"
Sanday
chortled
today's
dispatch,
referring
Fritain's hoariest tall story the
erpent that is "seen" romping
Scotland's Loch Ness every time
the tourist trade needs a shot n
the arm.
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Planes Chasing Disks
Find Only Empty Sky
Jokesters Add
radio announcement that disks
were flying
over Lewiston, Idaho
Sunday sent hundreds into their
Some Comedy
yards for a look. Weatherman Louis
Krezak said the objects were mov-
ing eastward with the prevailing
to Air Mystery
wind and probably were weed seeds.
Three air transport pilots agreed.
Searchlights on Clouds
East St. Louis Objects
A Birmingham radio station was
deluged with more than 400 calis in
Prove to Be Washers; one hour by persons who said they
Chicago Woman Spots
saw fluorescent balls circling over
the city and clearly outlined against
One With Legs
near-by mountains.
A carnival at
Alabaster, Ala., was playing search-
lights on cloud wisps.
By the United Press
An argument raged at Lodi, Calif.,
Army pilots were ready Monday
er the cause of a spectacular glow
for another air search for the mys-
n the sky and a roar shortly before
terious "flying saucers" now report-
Mrs. W.
ed seen in 39 states and parts of C. Smith said she heard a noise "like
Canada as practical jokesters added
to the confusion.
Equipped with telescopic cam-
eras, 11 army planes searched the
Pacific northwest Sunday without
finding any trace of the flying disks
which had been reported over scores
of communities the preceding two
days. At Sioux Falls, S. D., a na-
tional guard plane already in the air
was ordered to investigate a silvery
disk with a short tail which Gregory
Zimmer said he saw shoot across
the heavens.
The pilot found noth-
Give 'Em Room
Newport News, Va.-Peninsula
airport here is taking no chances
with flying saucers. Pilots report-
ing Monday to take out planes
found this notice on the bulletin
board: "Two thousand feet ver-
tical and horizontal clearance re-
quired between aircraft operat-
ing from this field and any fly-
ing saucers."
ing but empty sky.
The army
"camera patrol" over
the Cascade mountains Sunday in-
cluded eight P-51 pursuit ships and
three A-26 bombers.
Illusions Or Jokes
There was growing belief that the
concentrated aerial search would
show the saucers to be optical illu-
sions or the work of practical joke-
four motored bomber" just before
the lights went off at dawn.
Erving
Newcomb of the Pacific Gas & Elec-
tric Co. offered the explanation that
a low flying crop dusting plane
probably had struck a power line
and burned out a transformer
However, no planes were reporte
damaged and no one could explain
what a crop dusting plane was do-
ing in the air at dawfor Sunday.
It was the first time any noise had
been attributed to flying saucers.
J. U. Watts, jr., Darlington (S. C.)
attorney, said he saw an army pur-
suit plane chasing a V-formation of
flying saucers at 250 miles an hour
3,000 feet high.
However, no pilot
reported such a chase.
Saw One With Legs
Meantime, authorities were
plagued with reports that bordered
on the fantastic. An excited Chi-
cago woman reported that she had
seen a flying saucer with legs. "I
wes standing on my porch and I
th ught for sure it was coming right
a yn and slap me in the face," sie
reorge Kuger of Denver said he
sa
/ a flying disk with an Americat
flag on it.
Francis Howell, Tempe, Ariz.,
claimed he saw a saucer two feet
in diameter disappear behind a row
of trees near his home.
When he
rushed to inspect it, he said, the flat,
thin, aluminumlike disk took off at
"high rate of speed"
toward
Phoenix, nine miles away.
Mrs. Walter Johnson returned to
Spokane,
Wash., after a vacation
near St. Maries, Idaho, and after
reading newspaper reports of the
flying saucers said she and several
others had seen speeding shiny ob-
jects "as big as a four or five room
house" disappear into the forest
covered mountains.
The first of the saucers over New
York State was reported by Mrs.
Kenneth Wohley of Rochester, N
who said she and her husban‹
saw an object "about the size of an
ordinary saucer" flying above her
back yard at 8:30 p.m. Sunday.
sters magnified by aroused imagi-
nations.
A number of "disks" whirled over
rooftops in East St. Louis, IIl., Sun-
day.
J. T. Hartley, a locomotive en-
zineer, gathered some of them up
nd found they were made
of
essed white paper, 11 inches in
di meter and with a two inch hole
in the center.
Railroad workers
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New Jersey residents said they
"thought" they
saw flying
disks
over Palisades Park and -near-by
Bergenfield Sunday night,
Skeptical
scientists recalled the
mysterious "rockets" seen over Swe-
den last year.
Eighty per cent of
the "ghost rockets"
proved to be
meteors, and Swedish officials said
the others could be
discounted as
pure imagination.
Scientists asserted
that the ob-
jects in order to be seen clearly at
10,000 feet-the level at which most
of the saucers have been reported—
would have to be 20 feet in diameter,
would require a large mass of metal,
would be more conspicuous at night
and would be seen by a far greater
nber of persons
Dr. J. s Nascal
director of the
Warner & Swasey observalory at
the Case Institute of Technology at
Cleveland, said he was inclined to
"think the reports are fancies."
Capt. Tom Brown, army air force
spokesman at Washington, said the
army was trying to run the reports
to Earth.
"We're not dismissing the possi-
bility that there's something to it,"
. he gaid, "and we're not dismissing
the possibility that it's all a hoax."
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U.S. Planes Hunting Discs;
Russ Tells of 'Atom Saucers'
FBI Probes Story
of Soviet Ship
Officer
LOS ANGELES, July 6- (Spe-
cial)-Federal agents today in-
vestigated a letter to the Exami-
ner describing Russian supersonic
atom-powered planes resembling
the "flying saucers."
A top flight atomic scientist to
whom the Examiner referred the
letter said it was "not all non-
sense," and suggested the matter
be turned over to the FBI.
The letter writer said he got
the information from an officer
aboard a Russian tanker recently
in Los Angeles harbor.
ULLED EVEN WORMS
The Russian, he said, also de-
scribed experiments with con-
trolled radioactive clouds in the
Arctic, where birds, animals and
even worms were killed.
The planes, as described by the
Russian to the writer, are only
18 inches thick, with a kidney-
shaped outline and no propellors.
The pilot lies on his stomach
and is artificially cooled against
he heat develoned by air fric
tion.
The outer s" fuse in gail.
the Russian
Both upper and lower surfaces
re convex, like a giant lens.
The lifting force is an entirel
different principle found about
10 years ago among unpublished
papers of a Russian chemist.
"Energy is required only for
climbing, but no energy is need-
ed for support when the air-
plane goes
along the earth's
gravitational contour
lines."
The writer of the strange let-
er said he met the Russian of-
icer in Wilmington and,
because
e wanted to hear about Russia,
vited him to dinner.
Tire Pussian first asked where
he could sell 18 polaf bear pelts
which he received "for very dan-
gerous work."
He said he had been assigned
to go over the route of the radio-
active cloud near Lake Bakal
(or Baykal) and pick up dead
animals.
ALL LIFE DESTROYED
"They loaded a few small
ships with all kinds of animals
and
directed
the
cloud
over
them," the writer said.
"During this experiment, a
violent storm blew
the cloud
far north into the tundra, but
before it dissipated it destroyed
all life on its way.
"The cloud may be controlled
from land, from
a plane
from a robot-piloted
or
leader.'
As I understand it, the control
based on electro-magnetic
aves and the cloud has two
components: The carrier and
the killer."
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Quirks of Eyesight May
Explain Disc Mystery
By HOWARD BLAKESLEE
AP Science Editor
NEW YORK, July 6- (P) —Certain laws of human eye-
sight will explain much of what has been described about
the flying saucers reported from nearly all parts of the
United States.
At any distance which is close photograph of the oval object
to the limit of how far a person
taken by Yeoman Frank Ryman
can see, all objects appear round
north of Seattle, Wash. The Long
or nearly so. This law
of sight
covers both
Island
oval
closer and
small things seen
came
turned into an airplane..
nearby and large ones
at great
Planes at great distances tend
distances.
to look round when light is re-
Regardless of shape, the ob-
flected
from
their sides. Many
ject near the limit of sight looks
descriptions of movements of the
round. If the thing is silhouetted
flying saucers fit with the com-
against a bright sky, as some of
mon
maneuvers
of airplanes,
the flying saucers have been re-
singly or in groups.
ported, then it is more likely to
They fit also with what birds
revial its true shape.
look like, flying at a considerable
HAVE NO STRUCTURE'
distance. However the bird llu-
sion is not very
common. Some
it the thing is seen by reflected of
light, as in most cases reported,
the
maneuvering
repotted
which took saucers out of sight
it is almost certain to be round,
and back into sight again re-
and if the reflections are sunlight,
sembles what can be seen while
then the sizes reported are those
watching distance airplanes.
which would
be expected from
distant light reflections.
SPEED MYSTERY
The one outstanding fact about
There is no explanation for re-
virtually all the saucers is that ported speeds of 1,000 or more
they
had no
structure - they
miles an hour. Meteors, although
seemed merely round and flat.
they go much faster than that,
That description fits exactly with
the tricks that eyes play. This
not
explain it because the
saucers mostly appear in daytime
trickiness varies with differences
and there are not enough day-
in weather and lighting.
This
writer has
seen
flying
light meteors.
Ice crystals forming little round
saucers over Long Island Sound
clouds have been suggested. But
near his home, not only this year
these fail to fit in most cases be-
but in previous years. They were
cause the ice crystals form at
round, bright and moving fast.
altitudes which are higher than
NOT A MYSTERY
most of the saucers reported.
Nothing published in science or
But they were no mystery
atomic studies gives the slightest
cause they
were light reflected clue to flying saucers unless the
from the bodies of airplanes that objects are aircraft.
soon
identified
One scientist today said that at
charging course and coming near least a lot of saucers are
ex-
enough to be seen distinctly.
plained by the force of suggestion
Last week this writer also saw
which causes a person to say to
one oval flying form which
for himself:
a moment looked exactly like the
"Oh, gee, I see it too."
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'Saucers' Fly Here;
Grafton Disc Joke
What was reported as a "flying dise" which struck a church in
Grafton early yesterday turned out to be a circular saw with
two small tubes and several wires attached to it. Father Joseph
Brasky, pastor of St. Joseph's Church, Grafton, holds the "dise"
nd points to the lightning rod on the church (arrow), whicl
he said was struck by the dise
Sentinel Photo by Ernest Anheuser.
One theory was that pranksters
The mystery of the "flying
discs," strange luminous objects
seen speeding across the sky in
many states, turned to Wiscon-
sin yesterday when several per-
sons reported them at Milwaukee
and Janesville.
Mystery was added to mystery
when Father Joseph Brasky, pas-
tor of St.
Joseph's Church
at
Grafton,
Wis., reported a missile
hurtled through the air early yes-
terday, knocked the ball off the
church lightning rod, and landed
on the front lawn.
WIRES AND TUBES
ebott 16 inches in diameter-
was a large circular saw-
-and
still hot
when
Father Brasky
icked it from the lawr
Chere were wires and two tubes
attached to it. The tubes were an
inch in diameter and three inches
long.
or belated
Fourth of July cele
brants had attached explosives t
the saw, and sent it skimming
through the air.
Father Brasky said he heard a
swishing noise and a sizzling at
5 a. m., followed a second later
with a thud and an explosion.
An excited resident telephoned
to Billy Mitchell Field, and said
he saw 15 flying saucers, in U
formation, heading north
over
Granville, at 10:05 p.m. He hung
up before his name could be pro-
cured.
A
passenger
aboard a New
York-Detroit-Milwaukee plane,
Which landed at Billy
Mitchell
Field at 10:05 p. m., told employes
in the office of Northwest Air-
lines, Inc., he saw a flying saucer
bobbing up and down over the
airfield just after he had alighted,
from the plane.
41
Other passengers with him also
saw it, he said. He gave the name
of J.
W. Rowden of Dotroit: DE-
spite its bobbing, the saucer was
going at great speed, and was out
of sight in a few
seconds,
he
said. Rowden is stopping at the
Plaza Hotel.
DISCS HAD TAILS
Erwin Rottman, 1328 N. 19th
St., said he saw three of them,
with tails, flying northwest to
southeast, as he stood at N. 18th
and W. Vliet Sts. They turned
from gold to another color and
then to silver, he said.
Frank Phifer, stopping at the
Maryland
Hotel, said
he
saw
three balls of fire shoot
take bichi an at 8: 2b last ross,
about a mile from shore,
"going at terrific speed."
What he described as an illu-
minated saucer was seen
last
night by William Humphrey, 3148
S. 20th St., he said. It was zig-
zagging directly over the Heil
Co. plant, said Humphrey, and
seemed to land in a wooded area
nearby.
REPORTED IN JANESVILLE
Four
Janesville residents re-
ported they had seen a flying disc
Saturday night.
They
are Mr.
and Mrs. Al Sievert and Mr. and
Mrs. Howard Roth.
They saw the disc flying in
northwesterly
direction
from
Janesville at a
"terrific speed."
They viewed it for 20 minutes. It
was yellow-golden, and seemed to
turn at times to a silvery color,
they stated. An oval flight pattern
was followed. Then, they said,
tails appeared on the disc and
shortly afterwards it disappeared.
John Bosch, 4377 S. Adams St.,
Milwaukee, a machinist, insisted
he
saw
two flashing
saucer
shaped objects pass over Billy
Mitchell Field shortly after mid-
right yesterday. They were close
enough so he could definitely state
they were not shooting stars, mor
airplanes, he said. Bosch's home
is near the airport.
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STANDARD FORM NO. 64
Office Memorandum • UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
TO
FROM
SUBJECT:
: DIRECTOR, FBI
I PAC, MTIWAUKEE
FLYING DISCS OR SAUCERS
MESCELTANEOUS
TELEPHONE CALL FROM MR. FLETCHER
AT THE BURFAU AT 8:30 AM, 7/7/47
DATE: July 8, 1947
ATTENTION: MR. H.3FLETCHRE
Attached are newspaper clippings from the Miltraukee
Sentinel and Milwaukee Journal of July 7, 1947.
Матерув
For the Bureau's information, United Press and Associated
Press telephoned me at my residence about three or four times between
1:00 A.M. and 2:30 A.M., July 7, 1947•
The United Press representative
informed me that Father JOSEPI
BRASKY had stated on interview by a
Milwaukee Sentinel reporter, one BILL WEEKS, (Phonetic) that he,
Father BRASKY, was going to call the FBI concerning the contraption,
which apparently was identical with one of the flying discs recently
publicized throughout the country. The United Press representative
desired to know if we had any statement to make on the matter. I
informed him that I had no official comment, other than "No Comment."
Since I have contacted the United Press representative on
various occasions, I asked him what the actual details were, and he
stated he did not know except that the interview of the priest reflected
that a circular saw had been found with some devices attached to it.
510CT 3
The Associated Press called me shortly after the United
Press representative did, and on being advised that I had no comment
to make concerning the story, I asked the Associated Press representa-
tive what the actual facts were, and he informed me that as far as the
Associated Press was concerned, the facts were that a circular saw had
been found and a story had been obtained from a priest who had been
drinking quite heavily. The Associated Press representative informed
me that apparently the United Press desired to get a statement from me
denying or affirming that the FBI was investigating the matter. I
informed the Associated Press representative that apparently someone
was suffering under a misinterpretation of any comment I had made, and
possibly some reporter was in an embarrassing posit
ion if a story had
gone out over the xi
services.
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RECORDEI
I then telephoned the United Press representative, who
apparently in the meantime had been called by the Associated Press
in an effort to straighten out the United Press. No reference was
made to the FBI in the Milwaukee Sentinel article appearing July 7,
1947, but the Milwaukee Journal article, which is attached, referred
to an alleged statement by Father BRASKY that he attempted to get in
touch with an FBI Agent whom he knows. Father BRASKY has never conta
tacted the Milwaukee FBI Office or any Agent concerning his find
my opinion, this is just another hoax story, since a photograph of
Father BRASKY with the saw indicates no basis for
any authority.
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STANDARD FORM NO. 64
Office Memorandum • UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
TO
: D.M. LADD
DATE: July 11, 1947
Mr.
Tolson
FROM : K.C. Howe
SUBJECT: Flying Disc
Mr
Mr.
E. A.
Mr.
CLegE.
Tan
Glavin
Mr.
Ladd
Mr.
Nichols
Mr.
Rosen
Mr.
Mr
Tracy
Mr.
Carson
Egan
At 10:45 PM on the evening of July 1l, 1947, Clerk Piercy of the
Mr .
Mr.
Gurnea
Harbo
Washington Field Office called and stated that at the instbuction Mr.
Mr
Mohr
Mr. Pennington
Mr. Quinn Тали
Hennrich he wanted to pass on to the Bureau information he had just re-
Tele. Room_
tr. Nease
ceived from one ALvin Be
Parker, 200 6th Street, Laurel, Maryland, to the
Miss Holmes
Miss Gandy
effect that a "flying dise" had just landed in Parker's yard "and the
machinery is still buzzing." Piercy stated Parker was apparently so excited he had
a difficult time even getting his name out, and no further detail could be obtained
from him.
At 10:50 PM I passed the above information on to Captain West, duty officer
at Guz who indicated he had also received the same data from another source, and
would pass our information along to appropriate army quarters.
Sid Roberts of the AP called at about 10:55 PM and asked whether the
Bureau had received any report on a "flying disc" in Laurel Maryland. After
checking with Mr. Nichols I told him we had received such a report and had passed
it on to army authorities.
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STANDARD FORM NO. 64
Office Memorandum • UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
TO
: MR. E. A. TAMM
FROM : D. M. LADD
SUBJECT:
DATE: July 11, 1947
Tolson
Mr.
Mr
E.
A. Tam
Clegg
Glavin
Nichols
Rosen
Carson
Egan
Mr.
Harbo
Мг.
Hendon
Pennington
Mr.
Quinn
Room
Gandy
SAC Johnson of the Milwaukee Office called to advise he had
just received a telephone call from Colonel Harry Schafer, Reserve
Officer with the Civilian Air Patrol, Black River Falls, Wisconsin.
Colonel Schafer reported that at 3:30 p.Il., July 10, one sig Hanson,
City Engineer at Black River Falls, Wisconsin, had found a large
17" disc which appeared to have been possibly made out of cardboard
painted with silver airplane dope.
In the center was a tube and a
small motor with a propellor attached to the side. Colonel Schafer
expressed the opinion that this disc would not be able to fly by
itself.
He advised it would be taken to the Air Corps Headquarters.
Colonel Schafer advised, however, that Hanson did not want to release
the disc without FBI approval.
I instructed Mr. Johnson to advise the Air Corps officer
to get in touch with Colonel chafer and tell him he saw no reason for
the Bureau to attempt to secure the release of the material since it
was not in our custody and we had no control. He stated the press was
also calling concerning this matter. I instructed him to make no
comment to the press.
C.I. R. -6
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STANDARD FORM NO. 64
Office Memorandum • UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
TO
: MR. LADD
DATE: July 12, 197,
To 80
Cleg
FROM : F. P. GRIFFEE
Glavin
N1choi!
Rosen
SUBJECT:
FLYING DISCS
Tracy
Egan
Hendon
Pennington
Reference is made to Mr. Howe's memorandum to you
Quinn
Tamn
dated July ll, in the above-captioned matter.
Room
Nease
Holme
Mies anay
At 11:55 P.M•, July 11, I took a phone call from
Sergeant Lonis of the Laurel, Maryland, Police Department.
Lonis said that he had examined the "flying disc." He said that it
had been made from a Gulf Oil sign and the top of a garbage can and
had been painted with aluminum paint. It had been recently painted
because the paint was still wet, Attached to it were a dry cell
battery, a flashlight bulb, some wires and a buzzer. He asked if
we were not, that we had referred the matter to the Army, and
suggested that he call them.
I subsequently telephoned Captain Calvert, the Duty
Officer at G-2, and passed on to him the information furnished by
Sergeant Lonis.
Sante
G. I. R. 5
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FBI DALLAS
7-8-47
DIRECTOR AND SAC, CINCINNATI
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6-17
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Harry
URGENT
FLYING DISC, INFORMATION CONCERNING.
MAJOR CURTAN, HEADQUARTERS
EIGHTH AIR FORCE, TELEPHONICALLY ADVISED THIS OFFICE THAT AN OBJECT
PURPORTINC TO BE A FLYING DISC WAS RE COVERED NEAR ROSWELL, NEW
MEXICO, THIS DATE. THE DISC IS HEXAGONAL IN SHAPE AND WAS SUSPENDED
FROM A BALLON BY CABLE, WHICH BALLON WAS APPROXIMATELY TWENTY
FEET IN DIAMETER. MAJOR CURTAN FURTHER ADVISED THAT THE OBJECT
FOUND RESEMBLES A HIGH ALTITUDE WEATHER BALLOON WITH A RADAR
REFLECTOR, BUT THAT TELEPHONIC CONVERSATION BETWEEN THEIR OFFICE
AND WRIGHT FIELD HAD NOT SOR
ADIO BORNE OUT THIS BELIEE. DISC AND
BALLOON BEING TRANSPORTED TO WRIGHT FIELD BY SPECIAL PLANE FOR EXAMINATIC
INFORMATION PROVIDED THIS OFFICE BECAUSE OF NATIONAL INTEREST IN CASE
PEAK AND FACT THAT NATIONAL BROADCASTING COMPANY, ASSOCIATED PRESS, AND
OTHERS ATTEMPTING TO BREAK STORY OF LOCATION OF DISC TODAY. MAJOR
CURTAN ADVISED WOULD REQUEST WRIGHT FIELD TO ADVISE CINCINNATI
OFFICE RESULTS OF EXAMINATION.
NO FURTHER INVESTIGATION BEING
CONDUCTED.
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FBI NEW ORLEANS
DIRECTOR FBI
7-7-47
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VERY URGENT
FLYING DISCS,
_MISCELLANEOUS. F. CHARISTON, FIFTEEN FIFTY FOUR
AVENUE, SHREVEPORT, LOUISIANA ADVISES HE OBSERVED.
A CIRCULAR
DISC AT
SIX FIVE PM THIS DATE COMING FROM NW DIRECTION. DISC LANDED IN FIFTEENI
HUNDRED BLOCK OF TEXAS AVENUE. HAIRSTON PICKED UP DISC AT FIFTEEN
FIFTY FOUR TEXAS AVENUE. DISC WHIRLING WHEN SEEN IN AIR AND FIRE SEEN
SPOUTING EROM SIDES. FIRE WENT OUT ON LANDING AND SMOKE ISSUED FEW
SECONDS AFTER FIRE WENT OUT. DISC PICKED UP AND NOT HOT. M HAIRSION
NOTIFIED C-2 BARKSDALE IMMEDIATELY AND THEY TOOK DISC BEFORE SA ARRIVED.
DISC DESCRIPTION-- THIN ALUMINUM DISC SIXTEEN INCHES IN DIAMETER. HAS
SMALL COILS TWO INCHES IN DIAMETER AND FOUR INCHES LONG AT THE ENDS OF
THE DIAMETER. COILS CONNECTED BY TWO COPPER WIRES TO TWO TERMINALS ON
EACH COIL AND THESE WIRES ARE CONNECTED AT THE CROSSING IN THE CENTER OF
THE DISC TO AN OBJECT ONE INCH IN DIAMETER BY TWO INCHES LONG, SIMILIAR
TO STARTER ON FLOURESCENT LIGHT. CENTER OBJECT HAS ON UPPER END -
--MADE IN USA--MADE SOUND LIKE A POLICEMAN-S WHISTLE
AND SMOOTH SIDE TOWARD EARTH IN FLIGHT. BARKSDALE FIELD AGREED IF NOT
HARMFULL. WOULD TURN OVER TO FBI IF WE WANT IT SUBJECT TO SUPERIOR
INSTRUCTIONS• NAMES OF ALL PERSON WHO HANDLEI
AGENT SECURED. 1
@BARKSDALE
FI
REC
DISC BEFORE ARRIVAL OF
AND FORWARD PHOTOS TO BUREAU.
MAKING PHOTOS •
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RECORDED
01.53
July 10, 1947
62 - 83894-20
MT. Le Ca 1. Hoersch
349 Central Avenue
Jersey Citu, Hew Jeraey
Dear Ur. Hoerach:
Tour letter dated July 6, 1947,
has been recelued and I do want to thank
you for nating thia information, ausslable
to me.
Your interest is appreciated.
Sincerely yours,
John
Sagar Hoover
Director
FRY im jo
Tolson
the Wd 6E E
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Herod
Pennington
Quinn Tara
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CMA#. G
MAGREYNOLDS
TELEPHONE 2-14
The MarKeynolds
305-307 Sunset Atenue
Ashury Mark, New Jersey
7/6/42
Federal Bureau of Inuestigation
washing ton, D.C.
sentlemen:
I thought it was a ballow bul i
O menl in a definite diuction at an
apparently conctaul yeed t
adely anting fallowig, patt
bulled bul
ropeasked i the
long the elDer line! 3.
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Mr. J. Edgar Hoover
Wash. D.C.
Doesn't it seem wisest for you to forbid papers - No not forbid - but ask
the co-operation of all papers) to keep all news of those discs out of the news
untillyou are sure just what they are & where from.
Seems to us with all the enemies we have, even within our borders,
it could be something far more important than may seem at first. I had 2 sons
in this war & another who over-did for his America - & we do want it really
protected from danger from now on. Enough are dead & maimed - with-out losing out
now as it easily could be. Why have the papers carried that story if reporters
were made to see how much more sensible not to report - it except to the F.B.I.
There is too much of danger ahead anyway --
Hastily
/ s/
y. T. Norris
1734 Thome Ave
Chicago -
TRUE COPY
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STANDARD FORM NO. 64
Office Memorandum • UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
TO
: D. M. Ladd
DATE:
FROM
H. B. Fletcher
July 11, 1947
SUBJECT:
FLYING DISCS
Mer
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N1cho 18
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Tracy
Egan
Gurnee
Harro
Hendon
Pennington
Quinn
Tany
Holmes
M188 Gandy
SAC Bannister of the Butte Office called at noon today and
stated that a Mrs. Fred
Basterbrook, 215 7th Avenue East, Twin Falls,
Idaho, at 2:45 a.m. Mountain Time today heard a noise in the back of
her home.
She thought a collision had occurred and investigated and
found in
the back yard of the home next door an object described as follows:
A disc 302" in diameter, circular in shape, it is dished like a
saucer and actually there is a saucer within a saucer in the manner of
cymbals. On one surface there is attached a plastic dome described as about
14" in diamter and affixed by 8 bolts in a rather rough manner.
The bolts
can best be described as similar to stove bolts. On the other surface is
another dome of metal which is gold in color on one side and on the inside is
silver in color, which looks like tin.
Through the plastic dome can be ob-
served three tubes similar to radio tubes and there is some wiring. The disc
generally is 10" thick and at the point where the domes are located about
14" in thickness. There is an object on it similar to electric coil which
has some type of an arm on it and bears the words "Inspected TS". Some of
the wiring has been burned off and it looks as though something might be
missing•
Mr. Bannister stated that if this were the work of some prankster
he went to quite a bit of trouble. He stated the press is aware of this
incident. He stated that the dise had been picked up and was now at the
Police Department, Twin Falls, Idaho. He was instructed to notify the local
Army authorities of the existence of this disc.
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July 18, 1947
nh
Norris
173L Thone Averue
Chicago, Illinoia
R
EXo Dear In. Nons 8 94-22
12
wish to acknoledge receipt of your letter postmariced duly 7, 1947
INDEXithe Inforntion contained therein has been carefully reviewed and la being mack
16V
a natter of permenent record in the files of this Bureau. Your interest in
waiting an you did is indeed apprecisted.
In the future should you have information which you feel right be of
interest to this Burenu you wight find it convenient to contact the Specinl Agent
In Charge of our Chi ongo OFFice, which in located at 1900 Benierst Fullding,
Chicago 3, 1131n01s.
Sincerely yours,
cc. - Chicago
Jolm Edgar Hoover
Director
There in no identifiable information in the Bureau's
files concerning the writer of this letter. Despite the fact that
this letter refers to "flying discs", it is not believed that the
information furnished is mufficiently important to refer to Army
authorities.)
WVC : WMJ
Mr.
Mohr
Pennington
quinn TaTe
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• STANDARD FORM NO. 64
Office Memorandum • UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
TO
MR. LADD
DATE:
FROM :
Roy Er Wood
July 10, 1947
Mr.
To 180 Tam
A.
SUBJECT:
FLYING SAUCERS (DISCS)
INFORMATION CONCERNING
Ke
555
Harbo
Pennington
Quinn
amn
Room
At 5:45 AM this date, SAC Hood telephonically contacted the
Miss Holi
Bureau and advised at approximately 11:30 PM, July 9, 1947, the office
Miss Candy.
in Los Angeles had received information from the Resident Agent at Burbank,
Califomia, that a "flying dise" had landed in or near Burbank and had been
seen to burst into flame when it landed.
Further, that it had been the cause
of a fire in some woods, this fire either in Burbank or possibly in the either
limits of Los Angeles, which Mr. Hood could not be certain. The fire chief'
at Burbank had called the resident agent at Burbank and told him he would
hold the disc for him.
Coincident with the information received from Burbank, the Los Angeles
Office received calls from the newspapers requesting information. The newspapers
stating they had called the Army Air Force Intelligence who had stated "we are
not interested". According to Mr. Hood, this comment had aroused the newspapers
and they stated they intended to publish this quotation and belabor same in their
firstissues. Mr. Hood stated that he had refrained from making any statement
to the press other than to admit possession of an object and that it was being
turned over to military authorities in the noming (this AM), it being Mr. Hood's
opinion that he did not want any quotes in the press and certainly not one to the
effect that we were not interested.
As described to him, Mr. Hood stated that the object was an aluminum
dise about 2' in diameter weighing about ten pounds, painted with aluminum paint
and having some sort of a radio tube in the center of the disc. This object was
in possession of the resident agent at Burbank and would be turned over to
military authorities (G-2) in Los Angeles this morning•
RECORDED
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r. Hood's purpose in calling was to place the Bureau on notice regardin
the above described object and any further information would be transmitted to the
Bureau at once.
37 JUL 22 1947
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STANDARD FORM NO. 64
Once Memor
Maum • UNITED STA
LES GOVERNMENT
Anto
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SUBJECT:
Director, FBI
SAC, Los Angeles
RECOVERY OF "FLYING DISC"
NORTH HOLLYWOOD, CALIFORNIA,
JULY 9, 1947
DATE: July 17, 1947
On the evening of July 9, 1947, a report was received at the Los
Angeles Office that a so-called "flying dise" had landed in the vicinity of
Radford and Magnolia Streets in North Hollywood, California, the contraption
being briefly described as approximately 30 inches in diameter, all metal,
disc shaped, and having a radio antenna. It was reported to have burst into
flames upon landing. At the time of the report the disc was being held at
the Valley Fire Department in Van Nuys, California.
SA RICHARD D. AUERBACH went to the fire department immediately at
which time it was found that a number of people had gathered including news-
paper reporters and photographers who were taking pictures of the disc.
Battalion Fire Chief WALLACE E. NEWCOMB advised Agent that at approximately
10:30 P.M., an unknown woman called on the telephone and excitedly reported
that the disc had dropped into her garden where it began to flame, her
residence being located at 11858 Magnolia Boulevard, North Hollywood.
fire department truck was sent there and put out the flaming object with the
fire hose, after which the object was taken to the fire station. SA AUERBACH
thereafter arranged to transport the disc to the office.
The device is briefly described as consisting of two convex steel
discs approximately 2 feet in diameter, fused together at the outer edge
and fastened together in the center by a hollow cylindrical connection.
vertical galvanized iron fin was screwed to the top of the disc, and a short
length of pipe closed at one end ran from the outer circumference into the
interior of the contraption. What appeared to be a radio tube was installed
in the center of the top side. The contraption had a total weight of
approximately 20 pounds.
At the Bureau Office a series of photographs were taken of the
device from various positions, and a set of these photographs are being
forwarded herewith for the Bureau's inspection and information.
The "flying disc" was thereafter turned over to Major COURTNEY VI.
G-2, Fort MacArthur, San Pedro, California, who subsequent-
Iy reported that the obfect was definitely a hoax and under no circumstances
could have flown under its own power.
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Director, FBI
Re:
RECOVERY OF "FLYING DISC",
NORTH HOLLYWOOD, CALIFORNIA,
JULY 9, 1947
July 17, 1947
On the following day, July 10, 1947, one FRANK V. BROWN, 6552
Teesdale Avenue, North Hollywood, reported that on this morning he was at
the North Hollywood Service Station eating at which time there was
considerable talk about the flying disc having been found in the vicinity.
A number of what appeared to be young high school students were present
and were having quite a laugh about the excitement caused by the finding
of the disc. BROWN stated that he received a definite impression that
these young students either had themselves or knew of someone who had been
working for the past two weeks making this "flying dise". BROWN was
unable to furnish the names of any of these young men but identified one
of them who was making the statements as being employed in a Chevron
Service Station at the corner of Victory Boulevard and Whitsett Street.
He described the youngster as about sixteen years of age.
The above information was also furnished to the G-2 Office at
San Pedro, California.
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STANDARD FORM NO. 64
Office Memorandum • UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
TO
: Director, FBI
WHEROM : SAC, Butto
SUBJECT:
FLYING DISCS
DATA: JULY 36/2047
Marney
96. FreTchen
Mr. DAVE JOHNSON, of the Idaho Daily Statesman, Boise, Idaho, tele-
phonically contacted the Butte Office and asked if the FBI was checking on
the flying discs reported to have been seen by many citizens. He advised
that so many had reported having seen them that it undoubtedly was not a
figment of the imagination. He said that these discs had been seen on July
1, 1947, in the vicinity of Trail Creek near Sun Valley, Idaho, by reputable
citizens.
DEFE
The writer informed Mr. JOHNSON that this office was not making
an investigation and inquired as to whether he had contacted Army and Navy
officials. He said that he was inquiring of these agencies.
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FLYING DISKS. MRS. T. L.TKREMMER,
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Mr. Nease
THIRD AVE•, WEST, SEATTLE, REPORTED FLYING DISK HAD LANDED
ABOUT NINE FORTY TWO PM LAST NIGHT, THAT IT WAS BURNING AT
INMEDIATELY EXTINGUISHED. SHE ALSO ADVISED ONI, AND DISK FELL SHORT
DISTANCE FROM THEIR OFFICES.
AGENTS IMMEDIATELY DISPATCHED TO SCEN
AND RECOVERED DISK TAKEN ONI OFFICES AND EXAMINED BY NAVY BOMB AND
ELECTRONICS M
# EXPERTS AND AGENTS. DISK DESCRIBED AS ABOUT I
TUENTY EICHT INCH GEOMEN CIRCULAR PIECE THREE SIXTEENTH INCH PLYWOOD
CUPPED UP ON TWO SIDES AND HELD THIS POSITION BY WIRE ACROSS ITS CENTER.
DISK NEWLY PAINTED LIGHT GRAY OUTSIDE AND RED INSIDE, AND INSIDE OF DISK
MAD PRINTED LETTERS IN WHITE PAINT AS FOLLOWS QUOTE US S R UNQUOTE,
ALSO QUOTE E Y R UNQUOTE, WHICH WOULD APPEAR TO BE RYZ PRINTED BACKUARD
AND A HAMMER AND SICKLE. MOUNTED ON PIECES OF BAKELITE IN THE CENTER
OF THE INSIDE OF THE DISK DERE TO RADIO TUBES, WHICH WERE WIRED UP
AND ALSO SO MOUNTED WAS ABOUT A QUART TYRE CYLINDRICAL SHAPED OIL CAN
TO WHICH WAS FITTED A SHORT PIECE OF RU
RDER TUBING RUNNING FROM CAN
TO ENTRANCE TO A PIECE OF ONE INCH POE
NABOUT FOURTEEN
INCHES LONG.
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BELIEVED TO BE TURPENTINE. CONSENSUS OF ALL PRESENT PRESENT THAT
DISK COULD NOT FLY. DISK PRESENTLY IN POSSESSION OF ONI SEATTLE
AND NO INVESTIGATION BEING CONDUCTED. NO PUBLICITY THUS FAR AND
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STANDARD FORM NO. 64
Office Memorandum • UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
TO
BROM
SUBJECT:
DIRECTOR, FBI
SAC, NEW HAVEN
"FLYING SAUCERS"
EDWIN M. BAILEY, JR.
STAMFORD, CONNECTICUT, INFORMANT
ATOMIC ENERGY ACT
DATE:
July 18, 1947
Karney
For the information of the Bureau this is to advise that on July 7, 1947,
EDWIN M. BAILEY, Jr•, 6 Home Court, Stamford, Connecticut, appeared at the
Stamford Resident Agent's office and furnished the following information;-
Mr • BAILEY prefaced his remarks by stating that he is a scientist by
occupation and is currently employed at the American Cyanamid Research
Laboratories on West Main Street in Stanford, Connecticut, in the Physics
Division. Mr. BAILEY further indicated that during the war he was employed
at MIT, Cambridge, Massachusetts, in the Radiation Laboratory which Labora-
tory is connected with the Manhattan Project.
BAILEY advised that he is
thirty years of age and is a graduate of the University of Arizona.
Mr. BATLEY stated that the topic of "flying saucers" had caused considerable
comment and concern to the present day scientists and indicated that he him-
self had a personal theory concerning the "flying saucers". Prior to
advancing his own theory, BAILEY remarked that immediately after the conclu-
sion of World War II, a friend of his, RENATO FECHETTI, allegedly observed
the "flying saucers" from an observatory in Milan and Bologna, Italy. He
stated that apparently at that time the "flying saucers" had caused a little
comment in Italy but that after some little publicity they imnediately died
out as public interest. Mr. BAILEY stated that it is quite possible that
actually the "flying saucers" could be radio controlled germ bombs or atom
bombs which are circling the orbit of the earth and which could be controlled
by radio and directed to land on any designated target at the specific desire
of the agency or country operating the bombs. He stated that one of the
items of interest which he personally has observed is the fact that the
saucers have been observed in Mexico City, New Orleans, Philadelphia, New
York, Boston, Halifax, Newfoundland, Paris, Milan, Bologna and Yugoslavia
as well as Albania. By placing a string around the globe of the earth rec
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Letter to the DIRECTOR, FBI
"FLYING SAUCERS"
EDWIN M. BAILEY, JR.,
STAMFORD, CONNECTICUT, INFORMANT
ATOMIC ENERGY ACT
July 18, 1947
would be noticed that all of the above-mentioned cities form a
direct orbit or circle around the earth and would be more or less
in line of any path in which the saucers could be circling.
Mr • BAILEY further stated that he had recently talked with RICHARD
PERKIN, one of the owners of Perkin-Elmer Company in Glenbrook,
Connecticut, and had been inforned by Mr. PERKIN that his company is
making a large powerful telescope to be used in searching the strato-
sphere for atom bombs.
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Mr. Glavin
Mr. Ladd
Mr. Nichols.
Mr. Rosen
Mr. Tracy
Mr. Egan.
Mr. Gurnen
Mr. Mohr .
Mr. Pennington
Mr. Quinn Tamm.
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EVEN,
SECURITY MATTER-X.. DEAN JOHN IS
JUNKER, SECURITY OFFICER, M.I.T.,
CAMBRIDGE, MASS., ADVISED THAT TODAY HE WAS IN CONTACT WITH ONE CHARLES
N TASKER, OF WEST RINDGE, N.H., A RETIRED VICE PRESIDENT OF THE NEW
ENGLAND TEL. AND TEL.CO. MR. TASKER ADVISED THAT AT APPROXIMATEY THREE
PM ON JULY SEVEN LAST SEVERAL PEOPLE SITTING ON A PORCH OBSERVED ON THE
LAWN OF EARL TIHITÉHEAD, ROUTE TWO NAUGHT TWO, WEST RINDGE, NOH., LITTLE CURT.
OF SMOKE, WHICH ON INSPECTION DISCLOSED SMALL BURNED WISES SPOTS ABOUT ONE
AND ONE HALF INCHES IN DIAMATER ON THE GREEN LAWN. ALSO IN THE LONG DRY
BRASS ON BOTH SIDES OF ROAD IN A CIRCLE APPROXIMATELY TWO HUNDRED FEET
IN DIAMETER SEVERAL LITTLE BLAZES HAD STARTED AND THE FIRE 8800%
DEPT.UAS CALLED. TIRES WERE APPARNTLY CAUSED BY METALLIC FRAGMENTATIONS
WHICH WERE TURNED OVER TO PROFESSOR RENTGES, OF MIT, BY A MR. PARKE
DAAPPEL, OF THE TELEPHONE COMPANY. RENTGES HAS ADVISED DEAN BUNKER
THAT THEIR GENERAL
APPEARANCE ARE SIMILAR TO THE LINING OF
V DASH TWO BOMBS, WHICH HE HAD OBSERVED AT NEW MEXICO
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SIXTEENTHS OF AN INCH THICK, AND MACHINE TOOLED, AND SOME FRAGMENTS
INDICATED THEY WERE BURNED AND
# APPEARED TO HAVE BEEN
SUBJECTED TO TERRIFIC HEAT. THESE SCIENTISTS ARE TREATING THIS MATTER
AS CLASSIFIED INFORMATION. MR. E
• TASKER,
AT WEST RINDGE, N.H.
IS ALSO ENDEAVORING TO COLLECT ADDITIONAL FRAGMENTS AND HAS STATED
THAT THE FIRE CHIEF AT WEST RINDGE HAS ALSO SEVERAL FRAGMENTS IN HIS
POSSESSION. MR. TASKER INDICATED THAT THE WHITEHEAD RESIDENCE IS SEVEN
TO EIGHT HUNDRED FEET EAST OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS. DEAN BUNKER STATED
HE WILL MAKE THE RESULTS OF M IT RESEARCH AVAILABLE IF SIGNIFICANT.
OPINIONS OF SCIENTMISTS AS SET FORTH ABOVE SUGGEST POSSBLE MILITARY
INTEREST. MILITARY AUTHORITIES AT BOSTON HAVE NOT BEEN NOTIFIED.
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July 23, 1947
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Mra. John Maurice Clark
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Dear Urs. Clark:
Tour letter dased July 17, 1947,
cogether with enclosures, has been received
and I want to thank you for aubmitting che
lesser you menssoned to me.
Sincerely yours,
John Edgar Hoover
Director.
COMMUNICATIONS SECTION
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FEDERAL BURGAU OF. INVESTIGATION
D. S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
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Mr. Tolson.
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A. Tamm
MRS. JOHN MAURICE CLARK
THREE CORNERED POND
R. F. D. 6
AUGUSTA. MAINE
Mr. Clops
Mr. Glavin
• Lado
Nichola
Nr. Rosen
Mr. Tracy
Mr. J. Edgar Hoover,
F.B.I.
Washington, D.C.
Dear Mr. Hoover:
Flyi
" Disc
Mr. Egan
Mr. Gurnea
• Mr. Harbo.
Mr. Mohr
Mr. Pennington …
The enclosed came to my husband yesterday. Quion Tamm..
After reading it aloud to the family, as a good example
of crack-pot-ism, advertising or what have you, he threw g
it into the wastebasket. I retrieved it, thinking it might
better go into your wastebasket than ours, examined by
your department en route thither, as of possible value.
I presume several thousand have been mailed, and you may
reveive numberless duplicates.
I will risk that. Mr. Clark
as an economist at Columbia University receives many strange
missives. This is as strange a
one as has come for some
time, and very appropriate to the present moment.
Sincerely yours,
Winifred G/ClarK
Mrs. J.M.Clark
July 17,
1947
wiped M. Clank
Home address: 41 Wright St. Westport, Conn.
Dr. John M-
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July 1l, 1947.
Dear Sir:
Have you seen one of the mysterious "Saucers"?
What did it look like?
Do you think these strange, celestial manifesta-
tions are harbingers of a better day?
Do you believe it means that a new and revolutionary
advance is coming?
useful?
Will it make your life brighter, happier, more
We believe one of these startling discs is on its
way to you. Then the secret will be out.
The Combined and Amalgamated Committee
of Sky-Scanners, Disc Decipherers and
New-Product Introducers.
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July 10, 1947
Mr. Woodson e. Cope
C11ffside Hall
San Marcos, Texas
Dear Vr. Cope:
, 7, 19,70
I wish to acknowledge receipt of your lestern Union telegran
dated July 7, 1917. Tour interest in making this information available
to me is greatly appreciated.
Inasmach as the contents of your telegran appear to be of
interest to the War Department only, I have taken the liberty of
making the infornation furnished by you available to that Department.
Sincerely yours,
John Edgar Hoover
Director
Tolson
Gurnea
Harbo
Mohr
Pennington
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Darlington, South Carolina
Dear Me. Wabtat
I wish to almonledge receipt of your Western Union telegran
dated July 6, 1947. Tour interest in bringing this infornation to my
attention is greatly appreciated.
Inamuch as the contents of your telegrun appear to be of
interest to the War Department only, I have taken the liberty of
turning this inforation over to that Department.
Sincerely yours,
John Edgar Hoover
Director
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FLYING DISCS SIGHTED BY FRED CHRISMAN AND HAROLD A. DAHL, TACOMA,
WASHINGTON, SM X. REURTEL INSTANT DATE. PLEASE BE ADVISED THA JOU
DAHL DID NOT ADMIT TO SMITH THAT HIS STORY WAS A HOAX BUT ONLY
STATED THAT IF QUESTIONED BY AUTHORITIES HE WAS GOING TO SAY IT WAS
A HOAX BECAUSE HE DID NOT WANT ANY FURTHER TROUBLE OVER THE MATTER.
COMPLETE REPORT NOW EN ROUTE TO BUREAU AMSD, WHICH INDICATES
PROBABLY CHRISMAN OR DAHL MADE THE ANONYMOUS PHONE CALL IN THE
HOPE OF BULDING UP THEIR STORY THROUGH PUBLICITY TO A POINT WHERE
THEY COULD MAKE A PROFITABLE DEAL WITH
FANTASY MAGAZINE, CHICAGO
ILLINOIS. DAHL AND CHRISMAN WILL NOT BE REINTERVIEWED UNLESS
ADVISED TO THE GONTA
CONTRARY BY THE BUREAU.
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FLYING DISCS -- The Bureau, at the request of the Army Air Forces Intelligence,
has agreed to cooperate in the investigation of flying discs. The Air Forces have
confidentially advised that it is possible to release three or more discs in odd
numbers, attached together by a wire, from an airplane in high altitudes and that
these discs would obtain tremendous speed in their descent and would decend to the
earth in an arc.
The Army Air Forces Intelligence has also indicated some concern
that the reporte sightings might have been made by subversive individuals for
the purpose of reating a mass hysteria.
7-30-47
BUREAU BULLETIN NO. 42
Series 1947
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You should investigate each instance which is brought to your attention
of a sighting of a flying disc in order to ascertain whether or not is is a bona
fide sighting, an imaginary one or a prank. You should also bear in mind that
individuals might report seeing flying discs for various reasons. It is conceivable
that an individual might be desirous of
seeking personal publicity, causing hysteria
or playing a prank.
The Bureau should be notified immediately by teletype of all. reported
sightings and the results of your inquiries.
In instances where the report appears
to have merit, the teletype should be followed by a letter to the Bureau containing
in detail the results of your inquiries.
The Army Air Forces have assured the
Bureau complete cooperating in these matters and in any instances where they fail to
make information available to you or make the recovered discs available for your
examination, it should promptly be brought to the attention of the Bureau.
ORIGINAL
Any information you develop in connection with these discs should be
promptly brought to the attention of the Army through your usual liaison channels.
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Dear Sir, •
I lying Sauced
Reading about Kennbth
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these flyling saucers. I got a brain-
storm, Maybe there is someone that ie
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be sent up
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NDARD FORM NO. 64
information on the document.
Office Memorandum • UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
TO
FROM
: D. M. LADDI
:
E. G. Fitch
DATE: 7/10/47
SUBJECT:
FLYING DISKS
At request of Brigadier General George F. Schulgen, Chief of
the Requirements Intelligence Branch of Army Air Corps Intelligence,
Special Agent S. W. Reynolds discussed the above captioned matter with him
on July 9, 1947.
General Schulgen indicated to Mr. Reynolds that the Air Corps
has taken the attitude that every effort must be undertaken in order to run down
and ascertain whether or not the flying disks are a fact and, if so, to learn
I- about them. According to General Schulgen, the Air Corps Intelligence are
11zing all of their scientists in order to ascertain whether or not such a
nomenon could in fact occur. He stated that this research is being conducted
the thought that the flying objects might be a celestial phenonenon and with
view that they might be a foreign body mechanically devised and controlled.
1
General Schulgen also indicated to Mr. Reynolds that all Air Corps
tallations have been alerted to run out each reported sighting to obtain all
1ble data to assist in this research project. In passing, General Schulgen
ed that an Air Corps pilot who believed that he saw one of these objects was
broughly interrogated by General Schulgen and scientists, as well as a pay-
chologist, and the pilot was adanantine in his claim that he saw a flying disk.
General Schulgen advised Mr. Reynolds that the possibility exists that
the first reported sightinge of the so-called flying disks were fallacious and
prompted by individuals seeking personal publicity, or vere reported for political
reasons. He stated that if this was so, subsequent sightings might be the result
of a mass hysteria. He pointed out that the thought exists that the first reported
sightings night have been by individuals of Communist sympathies with the view to
causing hysteria and fear of a secret Russian weapon.
General Schulgen indicated to Mr. Reynolds that he is desirous of
having all the angles covered in this matter. He stated that reports of his
scientists and findings of the varlous Air Corps installations will be available
in his office. He advised that to complete the picture he desired the assistence
of the Federal Bureau of Investigation in locating and questioning the individuals
who first sighted the so-called flying disks in order to ascertain whether or not
they are sincere in their statements that they saw these disks, or whether their
statements were prompted by personal desire for publicity or political reasons.
General Schulgen assured Mr. Reynolds that there are no War Department or Navy
Department research projects presently being conducted which could in any way be
tied up with the flying disks.
Genersl Schulgen indicated to Mr. Reynolds that
if the Bureau would cooperate with him in this matter, he would offer all the
run down this matter.
and or an or a so romate elation a the e tort to tent on ,
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Mr. Reynolds advised General Schulgen that
his request would be made
known to the Bureau and an answer made available to him as soon as possible.
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Memorandum for Mr. Ladd
Mr. Reynolds also discussed this matter with Colonel L. R. Forney of MID.
Colonel Forney indicated that it was his attitude that inasmuch as it has been
established that the flying disks are not the result of any Army or Navy experi-
ments, the matter is of interest to the FBI. He stated that he was of the opinion
that the Bureau, if at all possible, should accede to General Schulgen's request.
SWR: AJB
ADDENDUM
I would recommend that we advise the Army that the Bureau does not believe it
should go into these investigations, it being noted that a great bulk of those
alleged discs reported found have been pranks. It is not believed that the
Bureau would accomplish anything by going into these investigations.
DMI
→ thuiky me should do this
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July 30, 1947
0
Mr. George J. Pluskat
907 Seneca Avenue
Brooklyn 27, New York
DesticURDEliskat:
62-83894-35
I desire to aginowledge receipt of your letter dated July 14, 1947,
and to express my apprediation to you for bringing this matter to my attention.
The inforuation set forth in your letter has been carefully reviewed
and is being maintained in this Bureau as a matter of record.
Sincerely yours,
John Edgar Hoover
Director
NOTE: Pluskat has been a previous correspondent with the Bu file 62-0-34750.
E: a No record could be located in the Crime Records Section indication that the
Mr
Might correspondent might be a mental case.
COMMUNICATIONS SECTION
Tracy
Carson
Egan
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Harbol
Mr.
Hendon
Pennington
Quinn
Candy
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MAILED 10
1947 P.M.
FEDERA
58 AUG 13.
BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION
ARTMENT OF JUSTICE
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907 Sen
AVe • ,
Brookly
37,3937
July 14th, 1947•,
Mr. J. Edgar Hoover Chief, of the F.B.I.
Washington, D.C.
Dear Sir;
Please forgive me for taking up your time,with this item It really 187
necessary. Yet,although everybodys tongue was wagging from the East and to the
West coast,I couldn't resist putting my oar in.
Flung saucers in the sky Heading for the Milky Way Funny?I dont know.
read and read and read."Sky Disc Derby Open to All"-"Calls "Saucers"prick
of Vision"-"Believe it or not,27 States see those flying saucers"-"Who saw the
Saycers?40 States in the Game"-"Celestial Dishes sought between the Raindrops"-
"Find 'Disk'is weather kite"-"Disks called chunks of Mirage"-"Report new Red
Planes resemble 'Flying Saucers'".-Air-liner crew reports seeing 9 flying diske
for 12 minutes" That's the way it went on,for days and days.
Please,dont remind me that this id a military problem Soldiers faght the en-
emy out in the open and away from home if possible The Federal Agents (the unsung
a n1 1 81610 nine
heroes)fight the ememy under cover and in their home grounds.So.Here I am.
These so-dalled saucers may be kites,but according to reports, these things
didn't flutter or float, they sailed and kites don't sail,the staanges part is,
they all sailed in the same direction,from West to East.
Rewards were offered,no collectors Planes chased them,none captured They had
to land,no finders So•As long as the Military,Scientist and Civilians deny,being
responsible for this Were doed it lead tozan enemy•A little while back, it was
mentioned somewhere that Russia had or has a contraption for their next war,em-
don't know-If a country was experimenting such a weapon, the brave people of the
U.S were not scared They only informed the so-called enemy how successful they
*hake were •
It could be an optical illusion, or; supposing some unwelcomed persons, planted
a few well chosen words, here and there and left
the rest to ay confused mind.
These innocent people reporting the phenomena.
What confuses me is, that when we became too curious and determined to find
out what they really are, those things disappeared and we found substitutes,calle
kites These things resembling description as near as possible to the real thing-
Why couldn't these things have been directed la ck home again like a homing pigeon?
To make sport of this thing,is lad taste It sort of reminds me of the boy that
cried WOLF. When the wolf really came Twas sad He,was a niceboy. There slould ho e
suvure They should be con
This POOH POOH business.is no joke.
less or radicules We can't take any chances.At this age,Time is slow Man, is
I had in mind that the floods were responsible for these disks (mirages) t)
rushing waters of the Mississippi,Missourl, Platte,Columbia and Ohio Rivers.'
sun going from East to West,plus the Catskill in the Easterly North, The Blu
Ridge in the East and the Rocky Mountains in the West•Refactions, or
were went from West to East-Hence the DIsks? REORBED
02 - 83991
Respectfully Submitt
This image contains all the
information on the document.
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MEMORANDUM FOR D. M. IADD
7/23/47
RECOMMENDATION
There is attached a Bureau Bulletin to the Field for their
assistance in handling this matter.
Attachment
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TANDARD FORM NO. 64
• Office Memorandum
UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
TO
D. M. IADD
DATE: 7/24/47
FROM :
SUBJECT:
E. Go Pitch
FLYING DISCS
Mr.
Tolson
Mr.
E. A.
5555
Clegg
Coffey
Glavir
Ladd
Reference is made to my memorandum to you in the above captioned
matter dated July 10, 1947, indicating that Brigadier General George F.
Schulgen of the Army Air Corps Intelligence had requested that the Bureau
cooperate with the Army Air Corps Intelligence in connection with the above
Mohr
Mr.
Carsor
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Quinn
Tele. Room
Mr. Nease
Miss Bea?m
Miss Gands
captioned matter.
The Director noted on the referenced memorandum, "I
would do it but before agreeing to it we must insist upon full access to
dises recovered.
For instance in the la, case the Army grabbed it and would
not let us have it for cursory examination."
This is to advise that Special Agent Reynolds has recontacted
General Schulgen and advised him in connection with the Director's notation.
General Schulgen indicated to Mr. Reynolds that he desired to assure Mr.
Hoover of complete cooperation in this matter and stated that he would issue
instructions to the field directing that all cooperation be furnished to the
FBI and that all dises recovered be made available for the examiration by
the FBI Agents. General Schulgen pointed out to Mr. Reynolds that he will
from time to time make the results of the studies of his scientists available
to the Bureau for the assistance of the FBI Field Offices.
Gene ra. 1 Schulgen
indicated to Mr. Reynolds that there has been a decrease in the reported
sightings of the dises which might be because of the fact that it has lost much of
Its publicity value. He indicated, however, that he believed it necessary to
follow this matter through to determine as near as possible if dises were in
fact seen and to determine their origin.
General Schulgen inquired of Mr. Reynolds the method by which the
Bureau would make the information obtained
from the Bureau's inquiries, known
to the Air Corps, in the Field as well as at the War Department level.
Mr •
Reynolds pointed out to General Schulgen that the best procedure appeared to
be through the regular established channels. It was pointed out to General
would be satisfied to receive information throuen ti0olssH8• 1lz - 83894=
General Schulgen indicated to Mr. Reynolds that he believed that there
was a possibility that this entire matter might have been started by subversive
individuals for the purpose of creating a mass hysteria.
He suggested that the
Bureau keep this in mind in any interviews conducted regarding reported sightings.
General Schulgen stated to Mr. Reynolds that he would make available to the Bureau
all information in the possession of the Air Corps regarding the sightings which
were first reported so that the Bureau could conduct sone investigation regarding
these individuals to ascertain their notives for reporting that they had observed
flying dises.
When General Schulgen makes the information available regarding
these individuals, it will be promptly brought to your attention.
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STANDARD FORM NO. 64
Office Memorandum • UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
TO
FROM
SUBJECT:
DIRECTOR, FBI
SAC, EL PASO
Mrs. GWYNNE M.
MERCHANT, Informant
FLYING OBJECTS IN AIR
DATE: July 22, 1947
Mrs. GWYNNE M. MERCHANT has come to the resident agency at Santa Fe,
New Mexico on several occasions to report that she has received information
concerning flying objects passing through the air.
Some of the reports that she
has received concern light objects seen at night which have allegedly been follow-
ed by explosions. She advised that one of such objects was reported by FRANK
BURTRAM, Forest Ranger, who works near Canjilon, New Mexico.
She claims that
others were seen near Park View and Tierra Amarilla, New Mexico.
Mrs. MERCHANT called attention to clippings from various newspapers
concerning "disc-like" objects seen in New Mexico and other parts of the country.
Mrs. MERCHANT claims to be a student of radio waves and ray forms, and
contends that the above mentioned objects may be missiles similar to those appear-
ing over Sweden some time ago.
Mrs. MERCHANT has discussed the above with officials of the Atomic
Energy Connission, and has written the Secretary of war and other government
officials concerning her theories. Mr. SIDNEY NEWBURGER, Chief of Security and
Intelligence for the A.E.C., has advised that officials at Los Alamos consider Mrs.
MERCHANT unreliable and possibly not well balanced mentally. She has mentioned to
agents of this office that she was struck by lightning when a child.
On July 15, Mrs. MERCHANT came to the Santa Fe resident agency and
advised that she had written to WALTER WINCHEIL, promising him a story in connection
with the "flying discs."
The foregoing information is being submitted to the Bureau, inasmuch as
Mrs. MERCHANT has written to several government officials and Mr. WINCHELL.
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→ Office Memorandum • UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
TO
DATE:
July
7, 1947
9:50 PM
Mr
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Honey
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Glav I
Ladd
Nicho
Rosen
Tracy
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SAC Weeks called from New Orleans on the matter discussed in the
Mohr
PennIngton
attached teletype. He wanted to know what policy the Bureau was following
Quinn Tarn
Tele.
Room
in connection with reports concerning these "flying discs" which were being on
received.
I told Mr. Weeks that, unless advised to the contrary, he should,
particular case at hand, allow G-2 to handle and not take any jurisdiction for the
FBI. He wasttold the Bureau would be interested in being kept advised of develop-
ments, and in copies of the photographs he said G-2 would make of the object
found, but that he should not allow himself to be jockeyed into a position where
investigative responsibility, if any were entailed, wuld fall on us. Mr. Weeks said
he would so handle unless I called him back immediately with instructions for
specific action.
KCH:h
As you will recall, I called you concerning the foregoing.
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DECLASSIFIED
Authority:
NND 90986
JFIDENTIAL
UNIDENT
Williams
Arizona
TABLE OBJECTS
Field, Chandler
7 July 1947
MEMORANDUM FOR THE OFFICER IN CHARGE:
On 1 July 1947, It William G. MeGInty, USN, 195803, P-80
student, Williams Field, Chandler,
Arizona, was interviewed
this Agent, and stated in substance: That on 30 June 1947, at about
091, mSt, he was flying at 25,000 feet over Grand Canyon,
Arizona,
a -80 type aircraft. he stated that he was heading south towards
Willlams Field, Ariz., when he saw two round objects going at incon-
ceivable speeds, straight down.
He further stated that his reactions
were to turn away from the objects. He further stated that one of the
unidentifiable objects followed the other seconds apart.
He further
stated that due to the speed of the objects, he could only see that
they were circular, and that they were possible light gray in color.
He further stated
that it was his opinion that the objects were approx-
imately eight feet in diameter.
miles south of the South Rim of Grand Canyon, Arizona.
AGENT'S NOTES: It McGinty gave his permanent address as: N.A.M.T.C•,
Point Hugu, Port Hueneme, Calif.
2. On 1 July 1947, Captain Malcolm G. Armstrong, 0-734168,
Instructor, Single Engine, W1111ams Field, Chandler, hat zona, was
interviewed by this Agent and stated in substance:
in the vicinity of Lake Mead, Nev. Captain Armstrong, further stated
that his brother stated the objects were heading south, and were at
approximately 10,000 feet altitude.
AGENT'S NOTES: Captain Armstrong could not give too much information
on the objects that his brother had seen. Lt. E. B. Armstrong can be
contacted at Hig, 10th AAF, Brooks Field, Texas for further information.
RECORDED
Fletchen
Lynn C. Aldrich, Special Agent, CIODKXED
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Date
: August 1, 1947
PERSONAL AND
To
1 Director of Intelligence
War Department General Staff
The Pentagon
Washington 25, D. C.
Attention:
Colonel L. R. Forney, Chief, Security Group
Fron
: John Edgar Hoover, Director - Federal Bureau of Investigation
Subject : MRS. ARTHUR DOUGL
ANDERSON
There are attached hereto copies of a letter received fron the
above-captioned individual concerning "flying saucers."
Mrs. Anderson's letter has been acknowledged and she has been
advised that copies of her letter have been furnished to you for youf con-
sideration.
Mr. Tolson
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CARBON, POPY
FEDENAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGAFION
U. S. OEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
CENMUNIGATIONS SECTION
AUG 6
1947
TELETYPE
Mr. Clege
Mr. Giavin
Ate. Ladd
Mi. Nichols
Mr. Rosen
Mr. Tracy
Mr. Ngan
Mr. Gorkoa
Fletcher
Mr. Harbo
Mr. Mohr
Mr. Ponniniton
Mr. Quinn Tamm.
FBI PORTLAND
8-5-47
8-50 PM
HNS
Mr. Nease
Вашт.
LECTOR AND SACS SEATTLE AND SAN FRANCISCO UR, CE N'T
FLYING DISCS, SM DASH X. RE TELEPHONE CALL FROM ME. LADD, ONE
TODAY REQUESTINC TELETYPE SUMMARY CONCERNING NEUSPAPER REPORTS OF
RECENT REPORTED FLYING DISCS IN PORTLAND, AREA AND A REPORTED CONFERENCE
OF ARMY OFFICIALS IN PORTLAND CONCERNING FLYING DISCS. LEAVERITT C.
RICHARDS, AVIATION EDITOR THE OREGONIAN, ADVISED THAT A CAPTAIN
VILLIAM L• DAVIDSON AND LT. FRANK M. BROUN OF FOURTH AAF HEADQUARTERS,
SAN FRANCISCO WERE IN PORTLAND JULY TWENTYSEVEN LAST AND INTERVIEWED
PICK RANKIN, AN EXPERIENCED PILOT, WHO HAD REPORTED JUNE FOURTEEN
LAST SEEING A FORMATION OF TEN FLYING DISCS OVER
BAKERS-
FIELD , CALIF• ACCORDING TO RICHARDS THEY HAD ALSO INTERVIEWED
FOLLOWING FOUR EXPERIENCED PILOTS UNO WERE AMONG FIRST UNO REPORTED
SEEING DISCS - KENNETH ARNOLD, BUSINESS MAN,
LOISE, IDAHO, CAPTAIN
E. J. SMITH AND CO-PILOT RALPH STEVENS, UNITED AIRLINES, AND DAVE
JOHNSON, AVIATION EDITOR, IDAHO STATESMAN,
TO ASCERTAIN THE
PURPOSE OF TIENTERVEUS RICHARDS CONTACTED MAJOR CENZRAL TUENINE
OF URICHT FIELD, OHIO BY PHONE AT ALBUQUERQUE, MM, AND FROM HIM
CAINED THE IMPRESSION THAT. THE AAF INSTITUTED THIS INVESTICATION TO
WASH OUT THE DISC REPORTS, SINCE THEY ARE PEFINITELY NOT-OF, AAF ORICIN.
ON FRIDAY, AUGUST FIRST, THE PLANE IN UNICH MAP INVESTICATORS CAPTAIN
DAVIDSON AND LT• BROIN WERE RIDING, CRASHED AT KELSO, WASHI• AND DOTH
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WERE KILLED. THE WRECKAGE WAS SCREENED BY AAF INTELLIGENCE FROM
MCCHORD FIELD. THE TACOMA NEWS TRIBUNE AND THROUGH THEN THE UNITED
PRESS PUT OUT A STORY THE PLANE WAS CARRYING PARTS OF A DISC WHICH
HAD STRUCK A BOAT OWNED BY HAROLD DAHL AND FRED CRISMAN , TACOMA, WN•
RICHARDS ADVISED THAT TODAYS ISSUE OF THE OREGONIAN CARRIES A UP STORY
STATING THAT DAHL DENIES SAYING THE METAL FRAGMENTS HE FURNISHED WERE
FROM A DISC, AND ANALYSIS OF THE FRAGMENTS SHOWS THEM TO BE FROM A
TACOMA SLAG MILL. NO AAF INTELLIGENCE PERSONNEL AVAILABLE PORTLAND.
NO RECENT SUBSTANTIVE REPORTS OF FLYING DISCS IN THE PORTLAND AREA.
SEATTLE VERIFY AT MCCHORD FIELD AND SAN FRANCISCO VERIFY AT AAF
HDQRTS. SF, SUBMITTING TELETYPE SUMMARIES TO THE BUREAU. NO FURTHER
INVESTIGATION PORTLAND.
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Mr. Tray
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Mr. Mario
Mr. Mohr
Mr. Pennington
Mr. Quinn Tamm
Mr. Nease
Miss Gandy
Fletcher
FBI PORTLAND
8-5-47
8-50 PM
HHS
DIRECTOR AND SACS SEATTLE AND SAN FRANCISCO URGENT
FLYING DISCS, SM DASH X. RE TELEPHONE CALL FROM MR. LADD, ONE PM
TODAY REQUESTING TELETYPE SUMMARY CONCERNING NEWSPAPER REPORTS OF
RECENT REPORTED FLYING DISCS IN PORTLAND AREA AND A REPORTED CONFERENCE
OF ARMY OFFICIALS IN PORTLAND CONCERNING FLYING DISCS. LEAVERITT G.
RICHARDS, AVIATION EDITOR THE OREGONIAN, ADVISED THAT A CAPTAIN
WILLIAM L. DAVIDSON AND LT. FRANK M. BROWN OF FOURTH AAF HEADQUARTERS,
SAN FRANCISCO WERE IN PORTLAND JULY TWENTYSEVEN LAST AND INTERVIEWED
DICK RANKIN, AN EXPERIENCED PILOT, WHO HAD REPORTED JUNE FOURTEEN
LAST SEEING A FORMATION OF TEN FLYING DISCS OVER BAKERS-
FIELD , CALIF• ACCORDING TO RICHARDS THEY HAD ALSO INTERVIEWED
FOLLOWING FOUR EXPERIENCED PILOTS WHO WERE AMONG FIRST WHO REPORTED
SEEING DISCS - KENNETH ARNOLD, BUSINESS MAN, BOISE, IDAHO, CAPTAIN
E. Jo/SMITH AND CO-PILOT RALPU/STEVENS, UNITED AIRLINES, AND DAVE
JOHNSON, AVIATION EDITOR, IDAHO STATESNCORDATO ASCERTAIN THE gU
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ON FRIDAY, AUGUST
FIRST, THE PLANE IN WHICH AAF INVESTIGATORS CAPTAIN
DAVEDSON AND IT. BROWN WERE RIDING, CRASHED AT KELSO, WASH. AND BOTH
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STANDARD FORM NO. 64
Office Memorandum • UNITED STALES GOVERNMENT
TO :
D. I. LADD L
DATE: August 6, 1947
FROM :
SUBJECT:
E. G. Fitch
FLYING SAUCERS
Special Agent S.W. Reynolds of the Liaison Section contacted
Lieutenant Colonel C. P. Martin, Army Air Forces Intelligence, inquiring
about an article which appeared in the West Coast newspapers recently
stating in substance that an airplane carrying recovered flying saucers
crashed in route from Portland, Oregon, to Los Angeles, California.
Mr.
Tolson
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Colonel Martin advised Mr. Reynolds that the only information
that has been received by Headquarters of the Army Air Forces is that a
CIC Agent of the 4th Air Forces Headquarters, Hamilton Field, San Francisco,
was killed in an airplane crash. The Headquarters of the Air Forces have been
advised that he was on a top secret mission. Colonel Martin indicated that he
was under the impression that the CIC Agent was either on route to or from an
interview with Mr. Arnold who is one of the individuals who first saw one of
the flying saucers.
REGORDED
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Colonel Martin stated that the Air Forces have
additional information
and will receive none until the report is received tron the 4th Air Egnger.
Colonel Martin suggested that the San Francisco Field Office contact Colonel
Springer, Headquarters 4th Air Forces, Hamilton Field, San Francisco, who
undoubtedly would be able to furnish the details regarding this matter which
are at this time unknown by the Headquarters of the Air Forces. Colonel lartin
pointed out to Mr. Reynolds, however, that it was his belief that no flying
saucers have been recovered but that it was merely an attempt to reinterview
an individual who previously had reported seeing one of the flying saucers.
StRichr
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469 N. Washington Ave.
"aukesha, Wis.
Attn.
Federal Bureau of Investigation
Gentlemen;
Ало
Recently I have heard and read about reports of disc-shaped aircraft,
or whatever they are, in our western regions. They reminded me of a nearly
forgotten incident in Germany, after the war. I report this to you because
I feel this may be of international scope.
My buddy and I went on pass to see a friend of his. One evening the
three of us were driving along some back roads when I sighted a strange
looking object in the sky from eight to ten miles to our front and approx-
imatly 5,000 feet high.
I immediatly stopped the jeep for a better look. The object rapidly
came toward us, descending slowly. About a mile away it stopped it's
horizontal motion but continued a slow oscillating descent, similar to a
descending parachute. Then suddenly it dropped in a spiral motion.
Immediatly I drove over to where it had dropped. It took almost five
minutes to reach the place but we saw nothing. After ten minutes of cruis
ing around the area it became toodark to see so we went back to town.
because
I am not sure my companions saw this, it happened so quickly it could
easily have been missed, but I described what I had seen so vividly that
they were as excited as I was. My
PROotinst impression was that it was a cloud,
but it was traveling at richt angisono the mind 3894 - 4)
The local of this incident was approximatly 120 miles north-west of
Habberbishopshiem. If necessary, I will swear to the authenticity of this
and to the shape of the object.
No ewardes
Sinceyely Yours,
Pobut i Arotea
Robert J.
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August 5, 1947
To:
Director of Intelligence
BY SPECIAL
MESSENGER
War Department General Staff
The Pentagon
Washington 25, D. G.
Attention: Colonel L. R. Forney, Chief, Security Group
From:
John Edgar Hoover - Director, Federal Bureau of Investigation
Subject: ROBERT J. SROKA
There are attached hereto copies of a letter received from the
above-captioned individual concerning "flying discs."
Mr. Srokats letter has been acmowledged and he has been
advised that copies of his letter have been furnished to you for youg
consideration.
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AUGUST 7, 1947
SAC, DETROIT
UNSUBS, RAYMOND EDWAR
DANE, MRS. LAURA
SANE, INFORMANTS,
FLYING DISC, MISC.
REURT EL AUGUST 5 MATERIAL SHOULD NOT BE FORNARDED TO FBI LABORATORY FOR
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FLYING DISC REPORTED AT HACKENSACK, NJ AUGUST THREE, NINETEEN PORTANLA
SEVEN, MISC. INFORMATION RECEIVED THAT CHARLES CASELLA, JR. AGE
AGE TWENTY, TWO EIGHT SEVEN EUCLID AVENUE, HACKENSACK AND WILLIAM
TRUEX, US ARMY, FT. DIX, NJ ON LATE AFTERNOON AUGUST THIRD LAST SIGHTED
FROM GROUND OBJECT DESCRIBED AS FLYING DISC. CASELLA CLAIMED IT WAS
TWO HUNDRED BEXA YDS, IN AIR, REVOLVING SLOWLY, MOVING RAPIDLY, AND
NEITHER A KITE NOR A BALLOON. CASELLA TELEPHONED INFORMATION TO HACK-
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SHANDARD FORM NO. 64
Office Memorandum • UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
TO
: Director, FBI
: SAC, Norfolk
SUBJECT:
FLYING DISCS
DATE: August 8, 1947
Re Bureau Bulletin No. 42, dated July 30, 1947,
Series 1947, wherein information is set forth pertaining to
flying discs.
There is enclosed with this letter a newspaper
clipping from the "Norfolk Ledger-Dispatch", dated July 9, 1947.
The photograph appearing on this clipping is alleged to represent
a flying disc which was observed by BILLY TURRENTINE, a Norfolk
school boy, who was successful in photographing the object with
his small camera.
BILLY was interviewed on August 8, 1947 by Special
Agent (A) THOMAS J. CONNOR, at which time BILLY informed that the
original negative was given by him to a Mr. BROWN of the Photo
Craftsman Service, who in turn furnished the negative to the
International News Service. BILLY advised that he has an agree-
ment with Mr. BROWN whereby the latter will share equally in any
profits derived from the use of the negative by commercial firms
or newspapers. As of August 8, 1947 BILLY has notreceived any
remuneration for the use of this negative.
He informed that he was sitting on the front porch
of his apartment which is located on the third floor at 410 West
I4th Street, Norfolk, Virginia, around noontime on July 8, 1947.
He had read numerous newspaper articles pertaining to flying dises
and decided to sit on his front porch in the hopes of seeing one
and attempting to photograph it. On July 8, 1947 BILLY observed
the southwest to a northeast direction. He said the black object
same direction. BILLY explained that the objects were moving at
a very fast speed which appeared to him to be much faster than
the speed of an airplane, and further, that the objects appeared
to be extremely high. he said that they were much higher than the
9)
average plane travels in the City of Norfolk and appeared to be
above the clouds, and that a white mist followed each of the three
objects. BILLY
was unable to state what the black objects repre-
sented, but admitted that they could have been large balloons.
He
indicated that he has observed small, toy balloons flying through
the air, but that definitely these were not the toy type balloons.
le said that when he first observed the objects they were at such
great distance from him that it was not necessary that he raise 389 YAs
his head in order to see them from his porch on the third floor
of the apartment building. He immediately turned around to obtaining
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Letter to Director, FBI
Re: FLYING DISCS
August 8, 1947
his camera and estimated it took him approximately twenty to thirty
seconds, at which time the dises were almost directly over his apart-
ment and it was necessary that he stoop and look up almost perpen-
dicular in order to obtain the photograph, which accounts for the
porch railing being shown in the newspaper clipping. BILLY pointed
out that the day on which he took the picture, the weather was hazy
and somewhat cloudy and there was a slight breeze blowing from the
southwest in the general direction of the northeast, which is the
same direction traveled by the black image which he photographed.
Inasmuch as the Army authorities in the Tidewater Area
of Virginia are cognizant of the above information, no further investi-
gation will be conducted by this office in this matter.
Enclosure.
TJC:lab
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ng Fron Norfolk Ledger-Dispat
Date
7-9-47
Flying Disc 'Bigger Than Automobile' Photographed
By Youth Who Is Amazed Because No One Else Saw It
By GEORGE HEBERT
The flying disc
"was lots bigger
few seconds later didn't look any-
thing like saucers.
than an automobile,"
and 15-year- Looked Like Football
old Bil Turrentine,
of 410 West
The boy stuck
comparison,
to his football
Fourteenth Street,
doesn't under-
stand
why
explaining
almost
everybody
in
that
the
object was
sortepf rounded,
more
Norfolk didn't see it.
oval than disc-like, and that though
In
fact, when he came to
the it
wobbled
in
its northeastward
Ledger Dispatch with a photograph
flight it was traveling very rapidly,
had
taken of the
object,
he
about 600 miles an hour.
wanted to know why the newspa-
pers
hadn't already taken fa
pic-
He guessed that the
altitude of
the
thing
was
about
5,000
feet,
ture of it. "I thought your photo
just below the
clouds. In color it
graphers were fast,
he told a re-
porter.
was
"gray,
almost
black,"
looked like a
"burned
acrisp." and
•NORFOLK BOY AND PHOTO OF DISC-Bill Turrentine, 15, (right)
tells Ledger-Dispatch reporter George Herbert (left) of- the "lucky"
circumstances which enabled him to take the photograph at far
right of a flying dise. However, the boy said the object pictured here
looked and moved more like a football, being rounded and oval, rather
than
dise-like.
Bill took this picture from the porch of his home at
(Editor's
Note:
Although
the maybe a rock or stone. The edges
410 West Fourteenth Street between 11 o'clock and noon Tuesday.
Ledger-Dispatch has had
many re- glittered, he said, and seemed to be
using an old camera, with the shutter set at 1/100th of a second. He
said the "flying football" shown here was followed by two smalli
ports of flying dises and saucers in
recent days,
no
other
person
trailing
dust.
Neither
it nor
the
re- two
which
ported seeing the object which Tur. sound.
followed
made
any
ones, all moving at about 600 miles an hour and he guessed they were
about 5,000 feet high, just belory the clouds. The photograph reprodu
rentine photographed.)
Bill
said he wasn't
However, Bill said he had done prised
when
he
saw
very
sur'-
ed here is an enlargement made by Photo Craftsmen.
In the for
the
object,
some fast moving himself shortly
"almost killed myself"
getting
ground of young Turrentine's picture is the porch rail of his home.
before zoon
Tuesday,
when
shots of it with his camera, set at enlargement made by Photo Crafts-
he 1/100th of a second.:
men.
stood
on his front porch and saw
large gray object,
ahe spire e like alect balleking Josephine, to come
He called his 18-year-old sister,
Photo experts of this firm
are
and look, but convinced that the boy did a fine
coming from the southwest.
apparently she didn't believe him.
iob with the old
camera he
was
He had just returned from Sum-
As the
"flying
football"
passed
using.
Having closely
examined
mer school classes
at Maury, he over, Bill said he took three shots
the negative, they said the only
said, and with
all the
talk
about
of it, but when he hurriedly evel-
flaw was in the kind of film, which
the film, after legging
with his camera to see if he could Oney Road for a vial of developer.
perhaps didn't bring out enough
detail.
They pointed
out, however,
only one
negative came out well
that this wasn't really a flaw, in
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view of the fact that Bill's pheto-
enough for reproduction.
I dont see why they call them
with the comparison
saucers."
he said.
"The big
He showed a reporter a contact forded by the trent omen rail and
Itook a picture of and the two print he had made himself,
ENCLOSURE
the trees, was certainly the
best
little ones that came behind it a the picture reproduced here is an
one
taken
1 dises
since
the
mysterious
were first reported
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The Stying, Roll,
3615 Alexia Place
San Diego 4, Calf.
THE ROUND ROBIN
FLYING ROLL
San Diago, California. July 8, 1947 -
(For your Information)
- A MIMORANDUM OF IMPORTANCE -
THIS MEVORANDUM is respectfully addressed to certain scientists of distinction,
to important aeronautical and military authorities, to a numbor of public officials;
and to a few publications•
The writer has little expoctation that anything of import will be accomplished
by this gesture. The more fact that the data herein were obtained by so-called
supernormal means is probably sufficient to insure its disregard by nearly all the
persons addrossed; nevertheless it soems a public duty to make it available. (The
present writer has several univorsity degrees and was formerly a university depart-
ment head).
A very serious situation may develop at any time with regard to the "flying
saucers."
If one of these should be attacked, the attacking plane will almost cer-
tainly be destroyed. In the public mind this might create near panic and internat-
ional suspicion. The principal data concerning these craft is now at hand and must
be offered, no matter how fantastic and unintelligiblo it may seem to minds not
previously instructed in thinking of this type.
1. Part of the disks carry crews, othors are under remote control.
2.
Their mission is peaceful. The visitors contemplate settling on this planet.
3. These visitors are human-like but much larger in size.
4.
They are NOT excarnate earth people, but come from their own world.
5. They do NOT come from any "planet" as we use the word, but from an otheric
planet which interpenetrates with our own and is not perceptible to us.
6.
The bodies of the visitors, and the craft also, automatically "materialize"
on entering the vibratery rate of our denso matter: (Op. "apports.")
7..
The disks possess a type of radiant energy, or a ray, which will easily
disintegrate any attacking ship.
They reenter the otheric at will, and
so simply disappear from our vision, without trace.
8.
The region from which they come is
NOT the "astral plane", but corres -
ponds to the Lokas or
Talas. Students of osoteric matters will understand
T
these terms.
9.
They probably cannot be reached by radio, but probably can be by radar, if
a signal system can be devised for that ‹ apparatus
162-83894-46
We give information and. warning,
and can do no more. Let the newcomers be
treated with every kindness. Unless the disks
are withdra?, a eftaation threatens
with which our culture and science are incapable of
saling.
A heavy responsibil-
ity rests upon the fow in authority who are able to understand this matter.
N. Meade Layne
3615 Alexia Place
Addendum: The Lokas are oval shape, fluted lengthwise of the
San Diego, California.
ovel with a heat-resisting metal or alloy not yet known to us;
laboratory; the rear contains armament
the front-edge, contains the controls; the middle portion ja
fists essentia
of a powerful rad
energy apparatus, perhaps a ray amar.
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Mr. Carson
Mr. Egan,
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FLYING DISKS, SECURITY MATTER-X. LT. COL. DONALD C. SPRINGER OF
G2, SAN FRANCISCO, ADVISED TODAY HE HAS NO FURTHER INFORMATION
AND THAT OUR SEATTLE OFFICE IS IN POSSESSION OF ALL INFORMATION
KNOWN BY HIM AND IS HANDLING THE MATTER
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STANDARD FORM NO. 64
Office Memorandum • UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
TO
: D. M. Ladd
DATE:
August 1, 1947
FROM : J. P. Coyne
SUBJECT:
MRS. ARTHUR DOUGLASS ANDERSON
INFORMANT
There is attached hereto a letter received from the captioned
individual postmarked July 12, 1947, concerning "flying saucers."
There is also attached a letter of acknowledgement to Mrs.
Anderson together with a letter to the War Department for approval.
It is recommended that the letter to the War Department: be
forwarded to the Liaison Section for transmittal to that agency.
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FBI PORTLAND
8-11-47
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KAM
DIRECTOR
URGENT
FLYING DISCS. SECURITY MATTER DASH X. ONE RED HATFIELD, FORDER NAVY
PILOT AND PRESENTLY AIRPORT MANAGER, MYRTLE CREEK,
OREGON, REPORTS
SEEING A MYSTERIOUS OBJECT ON TWO OCASIONS THE EVENING OF AUGUST SIXTH
WHILE FLYING AT ABOUT FIVE THOUSAND FEET ABOVE MYRTLE CREEK. HATFIELD TO
BE INTERVIEWED.
BOBBITT
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STANDARD FORM NO. 64
• Office Memorandum • UNITED: GOVERNMENT
TO
: DIRECTOR, FBI
FROM gIAC, MILWAUKES
SUBJECT:
FLYING DISCS
SABOTAGE
DATE: August 12, 1947
Reference is made to Bureau Bulletin No. 42, Series 1947,
dated July 30, 1947, Section (B), which advises that all reports
concerning flying discs should be investigated by field offices.
Prior to the receipt of these instructions, two instances
were called to the attention of this office concerning flying dises.
One report was received July ?, 1947, the details of which are set
forth in Milwaukee letter to the Bureau dated July 8, 1947, entitled,
"Flying Discs or Saucers, Miscellaneous, Telephone Call from Mr.
Fletcher at the Bureau at 8:30 a.m., 7-7-47."
No investigation was
conducted concerning this report.
The second report was received by this office at 1:20 p.n.
July 11, 1947, from Lieutenant Colonel HARRY W. SCHAW'ER, who is in
charge of the Civil Air Patrol of Wisconsin, an auxiliary of the
Army Air Forces. On that occasion Colonel SCHAFFER, calling from
telephonically advised this office that
an object in the shape of a disc, nineteen inches in diameter had been
found July 10, 1947, by one SIG HANSON, city electrician on the Jackson
County fairgrounds, near Black River Falls, Wisconsin, about 3:30 p-n.
The dise might be made of a substance such as cardboard covered by a
silver airplane dope material.
The contraption has a small wooden tail
like a rudder in the back and inside of the disc is what appears to be
an RCA photo-electric cell or tube. Also inside the disc is a little
electric motor with a shaft running to the center of the disc. At one
end of the shaft is a very small propeller. In Colonel SCHATER's
opinion that contraption might possibly have been made by some juvenile.
Colonel SCHAFFER stated that he desired to return the contraption to
Milweukee and eventually turn it over to the Arny Air Forces, but that
the finder, SIG HANSON, apparently wanted to get some publicity on his
find and wanted it returned to him.
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This information was telephonically called to the attention
of Assistant Director D. M. LADD of the Bureau on July 11, 1947.
Subsequently, SAC E. K. JOHNSON telephoned Colonel FRED SIEBERT
in charge of Counter Intelligence, Fifth Army, Chicago AC of S G-2
Headquarters Fifth Army, Bast Hyde Park Avenue, Chicago, Illinois, who
stated he would contact Colonel SCHAFFER of Black River Falls, Wisconsin.
No further investigation was conducted in this matter.
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Director
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The above constitutes the only two instances in which
this office was contacted concerning flying discs. Unless contrary
instructions are received from the Bureau, this office does not
contemplate taking any further action in connection with the above
two cases, but will fully investigate all future reports concerning
flying dises.
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Mr. Fred R.
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Dear Mr. Reibold:
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Inasmuch as the information which you furnished is
of interest to the War Department I have taken the liberty of
furnishing it to that agency for their consideration.
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UN IDENTIFIABLE OBJECTS,
WEEZOAAS FIRED, CHANDLER,
ARIZONA•
1h July 1947
MEMORANDUM FOR THE OFFICER IN CHARGE:
on 8 July 1947, this Agent obtained pictures of unidentifiable
objects, (Exhibits l and 2) from the managing editor of the Arizona
Republic newspaper. The pictures were taken by Mr. William Roads,
4333 N. lith St., Phoenix, Arizona, at sunset, on 7 July 1917• The
Subject objects flew at unconceivable speeds, making three circles in
the vicinity of Mr. Rhoads' home. The pictures were taken with
a box camera, size 620. The photograph (Exhibit 1) was taken as the
object passed in front of Mr. Rhoads, and Exhibit 2 as the object
turned towards Mr. Rhoads. The height of the object was estimated at
1000 feet.
AGENT'S NOTES: See Exhibits 1 and 2, photographs of unidentiflable
objects, enlarged approxinately 20 times. No further reports have been
received by this office of objects seen by military personnel.
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HEADQUARTERS FOURTE AIR FORCE
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Investigation of "Plying Discs"
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Special Agent in Charge, FBI, U. S. Dept of Justice, Suite 426,
111 Sutter Street, San Francisco 4, California.
Inclosed herewith is information copy of MOIC and newspaper
clipping re subject.
2 Inals:
1. MOIC Sorensen 7 Jul 47.
2. Newspaper olipping td
5 Jul 47.
WILLIAM R. GRAHAM
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Investigation of "Flying Dises"
Special Agent in Chargo, PBI, U. S. Dept. of Justice, Suite 426,
111 Sutter Street, San Prancisco 4, California.
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Special Agent in Chargo, U. S. Department of Justico, Suite 426,
111 Sutter Street, San Francisco, California»
Forwarded herewith is information copy of statement and newspaper
clipping re subjeot.
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dtd 30 Jul 47.
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From the Oregon Journal - continued.
MORE SEEN LATER.
Several late flights of objects over Portland were repotted Friday
afternoon. B. A. Evans, 5453 SW Macadan avenuo, said ho sew three fly
east aoross the Willanette river neur the Ross Island bridge about 2 p.n.
The objects did not appear high, he said, and were traveling so fast
appearing in the woat, they were out of sight in the sast in two to
four seconds.
No said they resembled netellio disks glinting in the sunlight.
Tater, ho anil, ho and neighbors saw a singlo disk-like object flying
north far away and very high.
At 4130 peme,
Mrs. Lawrence J. Fayward, 6124 NE 2ist Avenue, reported
sighting a diak "like a new dine flipping around" in the air over the Sandy
distriot.
She said It seemed to he moving slowly.
PAPER RECOVERED.
Thomas 1. Dwyer, 1232 ME 59th Avenue, said ho sigated two white or
silver objoats flying southeast high over Portland a fow minutes before
5 p.m.
He roported another, honded northeast, over hie home at 5130 p.m.
C. J. Bagne, Tigard, reported that four disks flow past Mount Jefferson
at about 11 a.i. while he was driving near Redmond.
low quality, mensured 23} x 36 inches.
STLVERED DISKS, DROPPED BY PLANE.
BUGBIE, Jily 5 -(AP) - A Fugene railroad oashier suid Friday he saw
silvered diska being dropped out of a light airplane flying over this eity.
5. F. Smith, Rt 2, Eugene, an assistant osshier for the Southern Paoifie
Reilroad, said ho was driving on a lugeno street when -
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FROM THE OREGON JOURNAL - 5 July 1947, Portland, Ore.
AIRLINES CREW CONPIRMS REPORTS OF FLYING DISKS: PIVE SPOTTED.
Cirounstantial reports of flying disks in the sky Priday came from
the crew of a United Airlines plane over boise, Ideho, and a coast guards-
man neer Seattle, as well as from Portland area police and eitizens.
5. J. Smith, captain of the airliner, told United Press that he
sighted five "somethings" which were "thin and snooth on the bottom and
rough appearing on top."
The objects appeared against the sunset shortly
arter the plene tools off at 8104 pame, he said.
"We saw them clearly," he reported.
"Wo followed them in a north-
westerly direction for about 45 miles.
Finally the objects di seppeared.
Ne were unable to tell wether they outsped us or disintegrated.
HOT AIRCRAFT.
"He can't say whether they were sauser-like, oval or anything else,"
the captain said,
"but whatever they were, they were not another aircraft,
nor were they sroke or cioude."
In Seattlo, Coast Guardanan Frank Ayman, 27, reported to United Press
that he snapped a ploture fron the front porch of his home which showed a
"white saucer" flying over the north end of lake Washington.
Aome Haws Plotures, New York City, said a 7x9 luch print of the photo-
graph showed two tiny dots, one of which was a flaw in the print.
Don Netcalfo, 19, Oaks Amusement park enploye, reported that he saw
several objests "Iike spinning diaks" in the sky Friduy.
do said several
pionickers, inoluding a woman pilot noticed tham.
In Vancouver, Wash», Sheriff's Deputier John Sullival, Clarence
Mekay and Fred Krives heard the Portlend polioe radio broadoast and ran
out of the shorift's office to look at the sky. Over Portland, three to five
miles amy, Sullivan said, they saw 20 to 30 objeots "like a Plight of geese"
They heard a low humming sound.
OTHERS DOUBTFUL.
Col. G. R. Dodson, commander of the Oregon national guard, made an
Inspection of this area fron the air after the diska were reported here.
He said he saw nothing "auspieious."
Only nown ailitary airplanes in the air at the time of the reports
were 23 B-29 bombers near Astoria,
Despite all the reports, at least two persona remined unconvinced
of the existence of the disks. Al P. Sanford, Holgate moorege, gave his
opinion that the objects were cottonwood blossoms.
to borate to paper of sor potara nonse
telephoned the Journal
Le said he saw objects in
the sky about a minute after on airplane passed over his house. To him the
objects lookad like bite of aluninun foil, perhapa oigarette wrappers.
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PORTLAND,
OHICON CA
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on 30 July 1947 lir ichard Hanicin, 83h 1, 5- Stapson Streets
Portiand, crogon was inter oved by this agent and stated in substance as
followss
Ay nano is Richari Bankin. I anh? yearg old and have fam since
I was ninetoon yoars old, I first soloed in an air craft in 1919. I lave flow
over all the woster parts of the united, states many tims and have mappod
all of the western part of the united states during the years before the
lata war for the 13 Forest Servico, I an fandliar with almost evory part of
the wostern United states, During a groat part of my life I have done stunt
flying for air shows and various other typos of aeromutical mnibitions. Ly
brother was "to"Hancin who was quite well nom in both civilian and ilitar
ying cirgles for myy yours batoro his death ani dwing the late war ran
chousands of Flying Cadets through primary traizing schools amed and oper
abed by him, to date I have accompLahed 7000 hours in the air as pilot of
both civilian and Military airoraft. I in woll acquainted with nost armicLes
that one would so in the air and I feel that I a well qualified to say
went seo articlos ilying through the ais, although I would not attongt to
say that I an infallable and stabe that I could definitely stencily ever
objeat that night be flying through the air. The following is an account of
what 1 saw on ili June 19k7 fran the yard of ny hone at 1005 South "I" 3t,
Fakeratiold, Calif cnia.
At approximately 1200 noon on the ll of June I was lying in the
front yard of ry hans, There was a lad wowing the lain at the time, I looled
up into the aly and sew ten articios lying tran the South to th lorth at what
I vuld judge to be 8500 Ct. The objects wer flying ab approxinately what I
would judge to bo 350 miles por hois. Ao I have atatod boforo, I have clone
quito a lot of may work for tho US Forest service. I distinatly ramanber tha
at the bine I sar the arbicles I montioned it to the lad no was noning the
Jan at the tine. I told the lad that the objects wore in all probability
some sart of Arry on lavy teat planes from the nearby test centers on the
deserts of Southem Califomia, laving quite a Inowledge of aircrart in
general I attempted to explain to the lad noring the lam that the objeats
were probably on some sort of training mission for either the Amy or lavy »
At that time I did not give the slightest thought to anything but that the
objecta were some sort of test hip for tha Govorment servicas. The ollecte
the so a liod "PAying
appeared going fron lath to south, although this time there were only seven
of the articles, then I first saw the otiginal ton objacts they were ying
in a "" tomation with one obgot seeningly atarseling in the rear ai tho
formation, thon the objects apporaed tin second tine they wore still in the
"V fanatomn although there vas only soven d' the objecta at this tame. I
renember a this time that I told the lad, to ma still to riding on the lamm,
that pobably three of the objeats had poceaded buois to thair base on a dife.
erent course, I aotually thought that thi was the case, that the other-three
objects hid probably gone back to their basa on the other side of the mountains
Tom loneratiold, A wook or so later when I zead of la parat amosa claspir
that ha had soon articles flying through the air over be. liscale Mountains in
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FROM THE OREGONIAX" - Thursloy, July S, 1947
PILOT RECALLS SERING DISCS.
Dick Renkin Tells Of Odd Arorafte
Nore reports of "flying flapjacles" turned up Rednesday, one fron
no loss then Dick innien, brother of the late Tex Raniein, end himself an
experieneed pilot of more than 7000 hourat flying tina.
Rankin, who is recovering fron an old baok injury received in an
autonobile adoident, came to Portland over the weelend to spend the summer.
Je saw the "silver anucers" over Bakersfield, Cal., June 23, while lying
on the lawn sun bathing, he told The Oregonian.
"I heaitatad so any mich about them,
"until I notioed
•11 the hullabaloo la the papera. I pursled over thalf' atrange shape for
a while and finally conoluded that they were the nary's now XPSUe) flying
flapjaoks, which are thin and round, with twin propallers and sbabby tail."
ONLY ONE XPSU-1 BUILI.
The navy and the manufaturer have announced offlotally that only
one such machine was built and that it never left Connectiout.
"These planes were flying high, maybe 9000 foet, and feiply fast,
about 300 or 400 miles an hour. I firat counted ten of them in formation,
going north.
About 2:15 P.l, they retured on the reverse course, headed
but there were only seven in the formation.
southe they vere not weaving or bobbing in formations I couldn't make out
the number or location of their propellers and couldn't distinguish any
wings or tail. They appeared almost round. They looked like plotures of
the navy's flying flapjack," Rankin said.
Rankin, who plans to spend the sunner here at 854 N. la Simpson St»,
ia now able to resume a little flying for fun, but not commereially, he
said. He now oporatos a string of auto courts, spending his winters at
Palm Springs.
INO DESCRIPTIONS CHECK.
Rankin'a description of the mysterious serial objects agrees with
that of Kenneth Arnold, Boise, Idaho, business man, who first reported them
over the Stato of mashington, except that Arnold clocked then at an estima-
ted 1200 miles an hour.
Other reports came Wednesday from Astoria, Jaok Hayes, patient in
St. Very's hospital there, said he sew two of the dices Monday flying south-
west at a rapid speed and that they vanished behind the hills.
Mrs. Berl Seado, Fort Stevens, said she new. a dino treveling north
Fort Stevens Tuesday noon, and that other observers saw the same objeot.
The army at Fort Stevens and the coast guard at nearby Point Adams did
not see the disos.
The report of a Centralia, Wash», men Wednesday colnoided in matter of
time with the original report made by Arnold. Sidney B, Callagher of Contre-
1la said he saw nine aluminun-hued objects Plying north at 3 P.M. June 24.
He was working 11 miles southwest of Mineral, Kash», at the time.
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washington I roalised that the articles that I saw were probably the sane thing.
I was still reluctent to mention this to anyone thinking that they would prob-
ably say that I mas crazy, After son time I mentioned the ind dent to the
in Portland for the remainder of the simmer.
get tor in a mone entatade ortin, noon no mortalia de the convoration.
with the editor of the paper is put forth in the accompanying newspapez
article,
I fully realise that this is a broad statement in view of the fact
that there h a been much publicity landa put forth in various news
papers of the country. I and wound minf in every reupect and I an Araly
convinced that the articles I sur are actually some sort of flying machines
although. I camot, auy fron where they tano or to there thay ware going. I say
what I lave mid with no ides of publicity or personal gain.
SIGNED
orlandy Orego
30 July 1947
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FROM TIE OREGON JOURNAL - 5 July 1947, Portland, Ore.
"PROVL CARS SPOT DISKS IN SKY HERE"
Whatever they aro, there are some disk-like objeots flying around
in the sky.
Or else eight Portland area policenen and deputy sheriffs who
sighted the objects Pridey, numerous private citizens, the crew of a
United Mr linos plane over Boise, Ideho, and a coastguardsmen who claims
to have photographed one near Seattle, are all wrong.
In Portland the alert was sounded over police radio at 1106 p.m.
Pridey, after the Last Side ssation received a score of calls that the disks
wore overheat. Within seoonds, two prowl cars reported spotting the mys-
tery craft.
PLASHES SEEN, NOISE LACKING.
Mrst to report in were Patrolmen lialter Lasay and Robert Bills in
Car 10. 82, who stopped naur Cakes Park. Both World Har II veterans and
civilian pilots, they sigated three of the objects within 80 seconds tray-
eling at great height and speed over the park.
They reported they heard no
engine noisos but saw flashos.
The objects seemed erratio and changed
direction of flight.
The patrolmen agreed that without Inowledge of the
size of the objeots it would be impossible to judge their speed or altitude.
Patrolman Earl Patterson in cer No. 13 stopped at SE 82d avenue and
Poster road to look eastward fron where the disks were reported. Telephone
calls located tham soning out of the sun. He saw nothing, but a few seconds
later observed one coming out of the west and heading southwest.
The craft
seemed to 3o aluminua or gEshall white and din't flash or reflect light,
he said.
OBJECTS UNIDENTIFIED.
A former aircorps veteran, he said the objeot was unlike any plane
he'd ever seen, He thought it appeared radio-controlled because the disk
could change direction at a 90-degree angle without diffioulty.
Members of the harbor patrol at the foot of IN Irving street stepped
out when they heard the all-car alert. Capt. K. A. Preha, Harbor Pilot,
A. T. Austed and Patrolman K. C. Hoff all saw the objoots and said they
appesred to be going south high over the Globe milla at terrifio speed.
Capt. Prehn said the flashes kept them from ascertaining whether there were
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three or six.
"The disks would oscillate and sometimes we would see a full disk,
then a half-moon shape, then nothing at all," he reported. The objeets
looked more like a shiny chronium hub cap off a car which wobbled, disappeared
and reappeared."
There was a plene in the sky at the time, but all were emphatia that
the disks were not planes.
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This agent interviewed W. A. Lisay and D. N• Ellis, both Patrolman,
Portland City Polio Department and both possess private pilots licenses•
Both officers advised that upon hearing the redio alert, they saw three flat
round disos, having a white color to them.
These dises were, according to
these offioors, flying at a terrifio speed in a Southerly direction away from
Portland,
They desoribed them as flying in a straight line formation,
last diso fluttering very rapidly in a side wey arc.
They further advised
the disos were equally spaced and kopt in formation.
Both officers estimated
the disos altitudo at 40,000 feet•
They saw no evidence of any motivating
powers and vapor trails or snoke trails. Both offloers stated these digos
were traveling so fast, they were out of sight before any detailed observa-
tion could be made, or any sound could be heard.
AGENT'S NOTE: All informants mentioned herein are known to this agent as
very dependable and trustworthy officers, not being afflioted with halluci-
nations. The woather in the Portland area at this time was clear with little
or no oloud formations being visable from the ground. Ground temperature at
this time was 82 degrees Fahrenheit•
Keith A, Sorensen, S/A CIC, Sixth Army
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MEMORANDUM FOR TRE OFFICER IN CHARGE:
At 1305, 4 July 1947, a radio alert was issued via the Portland
City Police Radio, advising all oars and listeners that some fast Flying
objoots were in the air over Portland and vicinity. Upon contacting the
Portland, Oregon, on duty at Prucinot #I, Portland City Polico, Southeast
Norrison at l0th Avenue, had ollod in advising the dispatcher of the flying
objeots.
2. This agent intervlowed Offloer MoDowoll who stated at approximately
1305, 4 July 1947, he was on duty at Precinot fl, and was in the parking lot
back of the Polio Station, feeding the pidgeons. At this time the pidgeons
boome very excited over something and fluttered in the nir all at once.
Officer MeDowell stated in looking around to see what had disturbed them,
saw five large dises in the air to the Fast of Portland two discs flying South
and three flying in an Easterly diraction. Offleer MeDowell stated he could
determine no color to the dises, but advised they were dipping in an up and
down oscillating motion and were traveling at a great speed.
He sna unable
to eive an estimate of the speed or altitude of these disas as they were out
of sight before any detailed observation could be made.
Offloor MoDowell ad-
vised he notified the Police Radio who immediately broadost an slert. Officer
MeDowell advised ho saw no indication of any motivating force or heard any
sound coming from these disos and could give no description other than round.
*• This agent interviewed Sergeant Claude Cross, Oregon State Police
Officer on duty at District lunber 1 Station, Milwaukle, Oregon.
stated upon hearing the radio niert he vent outside and upon looking in an
Easterly direction he saw three disos following esch other at an undetermined
altitude and at a terrifie speed, traveling in a Northwesterly direction.
Cross adrised he noticed a whitish brow glint to these objects as the sun
refleoted from them. Gross was unable to give any other description nor could
he judge the objeots speed or altitude. No sound was made by the objeats.
This agent interviewed Farl E. Patterson, Patrolman, Portland City
Polico Department, and residing at 124 Southeast 13th Avenue, Portland, Oregon,
Patterson advises ho wa a former Air Corp pilot during the war.
Le stated
that the time the radio alert sounded,
ho was at Southeast 82nd and Poster
Road, Portland, and upon getting out of his car he sew one dise flying in a
Southwesterly direction over Portland. Patterson advised this diso was alumi-
num in color, left no vapor trail or smoke trail and was traveling at a terri-
fle apeed, faster than he has ever seen any flying objeet before.
Patterson
further advised, although not knowing the exaot size of the objeet it is diffi-
oult to determine the altitudo, he estimates its altitude at 30,000 feet.
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Pattorson further advised the flying disa was definitely some type.of air-
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