18_100754_ General 1946-7_Vol_2

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HaAMC form No. 16514 (Rov 10 Sop 46) SECRET HEADQUARTERS AIR MATERIEL COMMAND WF-L-7 JAN 47 300M SAVE DECLASSIFIED Authority: NND 700188 IN REPLY ADDRESS BOTH COMMUNICATION AND EN- VELOPE TO COMMANDING GENERAL, AIR MATERIEL COMMAND, ATTENTION FOLLOWING OFFICE SYMBOL: TSDIN TSDIN/HMM/1g/6-4,100 WRIGHT FIELD, DAYTON, OHIO DEC 1 9 1947 SUBJECT: Flying Discs TO: Chief of Staff United States Air Force Washington 25, D. C. ATTENTION: Director, Research & Development Major General L. C. Craigie Confirming the recent conversation of the undersigned with Major General L. C. Craigie, 9 December 1947, attached as listed below are copies of the reports from this Headquarters concerning Flying Discs. 2. never been received by this Command, Continued and recent reports from qualified observers concerning this phenomenon still makes this gence Department of this Command is continuing the collection and analysis of all available reports. FOR THE COMMANDING GENERAL: HMmC Con H. M. McCOY ColoneI, USAF Chief of Intelligence 2 Attach: ce Itr to CG, AAF, dta 23 Sept 47 subj "AMC Opinion Concerning "Flying Discs"" cc Itr to CG, AAF, dtd 24 Sept 47 subj "Flying Discs" SECR U-53791

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DATE: 22 Deg FROM: OIN 4 SUSPENSE DATE: NO.: 244391 FILE DESIGNATION AND DATE: P 97084 RAR, 1 TYPE: SMRY: Amlysis of 'Plying Diso' Reporta". 2 inols. 11 TO: 30RD. TO: Nemo to ATC DATE: DATE N, TSDABATE: ac 47 30 DeG- REPLIED OR INDORSED TO: 72228 (PLACE): TO: DATE: TO: DATE: OTHER ACTION: HQ AAF

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SECRET Col Cook/ 2497/bm AFMRS 30 December 19h7 SUBALOT: Plying Disca TO: Conmanding General Air Materioi Commend wright Fiold, Dayton, Ohio ALons TSDIN 1. Reference is mede to three inclosures, menoranda fron your offico to tris headquarters, mbject as abovo. 2. It is Air Forea poliey not to ignore reporte of sightings and phenomena in the atmosphere but to recognize that port of its mission is to collect, collate, evaluate and ast on inforation of this mture. 3. In implementing thie polley, it ie doaired that the Air Materiel Comnand set up a project whose purpose is to collect, collate, evaluste and distributo to interested goverament agencion and contractors nll information concerning sightinga and phenonens in the atmosphere which con be construed to be of concern to the national security. It is desired that appropriato recommendations be forwarded to this Headquarters, wherever action is indicated which falls outaide the field of the Air Materiel Coumand. 4. It is suggested that the activitios of this project include the preparation and distribution of an initial roport, a recommendad in Inelosure l, and that subsequent reporta be issued on a quarterly basis. Supplemontary reports should be lamed at more frequent inter- vals should the noed for same be indicated. Thia project in assigned priority 2., with a security classification of "restricted" and Code Name of "STon» There anta of a classiflestion higher than restricted in handled by the project such data should be classified accordingly. A complete interchange of data should be effected as recommanded in Inclosure 1. BX COMMAND OF THE CHINE OF STAFF: p 97084 4 Incle I. Mono dtd 23 Sept 127 [rom ANC to AC/A8-2 Cen-Sehuten) 2. OFFICE SYMBOL. GRADE AND SURNAME OF from AVC to ACA COORDINATING (Gion NoDonald) OFFICERS 3- 1 mao did 12 Ded •L o den Crafte 4. PeR from Dir of IntellEONET L. C. CRAIGIE 2 JAN 19A8 Major Coneral, U. S. Air Foreo Director of Rosearch and Developmoat affico, Doputy Chief of Staff, Materiol 3. Davalo AFORE Weslas (AEARD) be Peden raise: U. S. GOVERNIENT PRINTING OFFICE

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APOlit-CO/ Col Garrett/Lwd/4544 18 Dec '47 122 Basic Itr fr Ha. Pourth Air Force, Hamilton PId, Calif., dated 5 Deo '47, subject: Flying Disc. APOIR-C0-5 Ist Ind. Dept. of the Mir Force, Hq. USAF, Washington 25, D. C. 82 DEC 1947 TO: Commanding General, Fourth Air Force, Hanilton Field, Califomia 1. The marks appearing on the photographs inclosed in basic letter are believed to be defects in the film, paper, or camera and not pictures of "flying dises". 2. It is requested that no further investigation be made of this incident. FOR THE CHIKE OF STAFF: DOUGLASS W. BISEMAN Lt. Colonel, U.S.k.R Executive, Air In elligence Requirements Div. Directorate of Intelligence Incls. n/ c harh SAG HQ. AAF 22 DEC 1947 MAIL SRANCH 1177846 File ref: B/1 fr Hq. Fourth Air Force, Hamilton PId, Calif. dated 5 Dec '47 subj: as above SURNAME OF COORDINATING OFFICERS 1. AFOIR-CO Col Taylor Col Garrett 2. AFOIR U Чистан O. P. CABNEL, AB. Gou., USAN 4. 16-29242-2 U. S. GOVERKHENT PRINTINS OFFICE

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ATES Dec 4E7 FROM milton lId, Calif SUSPENSE DATE: NO.: 242134 FILE DESIGNATION AND DATE: 1177846 TYPE: SMRY: ILtr Flying Dise Mary L Herren 3 Incls: TO: OCT. TO: AFOIR-CO DATE: REPLIED OR INDORSED TO: TO: DATE: DATE: 22/H7 FILED (PLACE): TO: DATE: OTHER ACTION: HQ AAF

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DEL TIAL HEADQUARTERS POURTH AIR FORCE Office of the Assistant Chief of Staff, A-2 Intelligence Hamilton Field, California 4AFDA-3/1208-I SUBJECT: Flying Disc. DEC 5 1947 12-131 TO: Chief of Staff United States Air Force Washington 25, D. C. ATTN: Director of Intelligence 1 201-1000 •1. The attached photographs were forwerded to this office by a very reliable source of information, obtained fron a Mary L. Herren, 1728 S. V. Bidwell Avenue, Portland 2, Oregon. Sho advises these photographs were taken some time between November 5th and 12th, 1946, in the vicinity of Jefferson, Oregon, and points out the formation in the photographs as being objects she did not recall seeing herself but she thought might possibly be flying dises. 2. The objects referred to appear in the sky area of each accompanying photograph. The uniformity of the markings would tend to indicate that the camera or film used to take these pictures was possibly defective. No incidents of flying dises have been reported from that vicinity on or about the inclusive dates named above. 3. Mrs. Herren has requested the return of the negatives. If desired, this office will obtain the negatives and forward them at your request. 3 Inclas Photographs. DONALD L. SPRINGER It. Colonel, USAF AC of S, A-2 đЗVІ]О3Я 2314 1A39 CONFH INTIAL

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1. 1 Aug 45) SECRET 01R HEADQUARTERS AIR MATERIEL COMMAND IN REPLY ADDRESS BOTH COMMUNICATION AND EN- VELOPE TO ATTENTION OF FOLLOWING OFFICE SYMBOL: TSNAD-2B SUBJECT: TO: Flying Discs TSNAD -2B/ACL/amb WRIGHT FIELD, DAYTON, OHIO 18 NOV 1947 11-145 Chief of Staff United States Air Force Washington 25, D. C. ATTENTION: Office, Director of Intelligenco It Colonel George Garrett, Jr. AFOAI) 1. The inclosed newspaper clippings are submitted for your informa- tion and comment. The incident reported in Seattle appeared in the "Dayton Journal" on 12 November 1947, and should be followed up if possible. 2. The story by Lionel Shapiro regarding war weapons developed in Spain evidently was printed in a nunber of leading newspapers throughout the country• The significance of this article will be dependent upon cer- tain essential elements for such alloged important developments, such as funds, materials, experimental testing facilities, and technological "know-how"• The latter is supposed to be supplied by German scientists. The German scientists at this Iq indicate that no important scientists fron Germany are working in Spain, and those mentioned in this article ere not known to them. 3. If possible, therefore, an effort should be made to obtain nemes, qualifications, or any information that night help to identify the alleged German scientists working in Spain. 4, A brief statement was made in a recent intelligence report from USAF, AC/AS-2, regarding a flying diso incident in Alaska in September. The close range sighting reported should render a more detailed observation than what was reported, which also suggests a follow-up. 5. It is further requested that this office be advised as to progress being made on the plotting of all flying disc incidents to date, particu- larly in North America, It was understood that Dr. Carroll was going to plot these incidents, but no further word was received regarding this of- fort. FOR THE COMMANDING GENERAL: Fle CD GARRETT USAF Incl Lt newspaper clippings M. McCOY tif. Аня wat of Intelligence ХОВ АКАРОМ них

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HqAMC Form No. 10-514 (Rev. 1 Aug 45) AVE CONFI HAE HEADQUARTERS AIR MATERIEL COMMAND VICTORY BUY WAR BONDS STAMPS IN REPLY ADDRESS BOTH COMMUNICATION AND EN- VELOPE TO ATTENTION OF FOLLOWING OFFICE SYMBOL: TSNAD - 2B SUBJECT: Flying Discs TSNAD-2B/ACL/amb WRIGHT FIELD, DAYTON, OHIO 24 NOV 1947 12-8 TO: Chief of Staff United States Air Force Washington 25, D. C. ATTENTION: Office, Director of Intelligence It Colonel George Garrett, Jr. Reference letter, subject as above, dated 18 November 1947, 1t is requested that imnediate action be taken to appropriately mark or stamp this correspondence with the classification "secret". This classifica- tion number is as follows: U-48983 FOR THE COMMANDING GENERAL: Chief of Intelligence To O/I 7ees action сотрейм -OIR-Co Is cal garret - OIR-co 12 - 10-47 9. Phenmen WF-L-29 APR 46 300M IAL

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- - HaTic. Beni No. 10.514 (Rov 10 Sop 46) SECRET. WF-L-7 JAN 47 300M SAVE IN REPLY ADDRESS BOTH COMMUNICATION AND EN- VELOPE TO COMMANDING GENERAL, AIR MATERIEL COMMAND, ATTENTION FOLLOWING OFFICE SYMBOL: TSDIN HEADQUARTERS AIR MATERIEL COMMAND ISDIN/HM/ig/6-4100 WRIGHT FIELD, DAYTON, OHIO SEP 2 3 1947 SUBJECT: AMC Opinion Concerning "Flying Discs"" TO: Commanding General Arny Air Forces Washington 25, D. C. ATTENTION: Brig• General George Schulgen AC/AS-2 1. As requested by AC/AS-2 there is presented below the considered opinion of this Cormand concerning the so-called "Flying Discs". This opinion is based on interrogation report data furnished by AC/AS-2 and preliminary studies by personnel of T-2 and Aircraft Laboratory, Engineer- ing Division T-3. This opinion was arrived at in a conference between personnel from the Air Institute of Technology, Intelligence T-2, office, Chief of Engineering Division, and the Aircraft, Power Plant and Propeller Laboratories of Engineering Division T-3. 2. It is the opinion that: The phenomenon reported is something real and not visionary a. or fictitious. bo There are objects probably approximating the shape of a disc, of such appreciable size as to appear to be as large as man-made aircraft. Co There is a possibility that some of the incidents may be caused by natural phenomena, such as meteors. d. The reported operating characteristics such as extreme rates of climb, maneuverability (particularly in roll), and action which must be considered evasive when sighted or contacted by friendly air- craft and radar, lend belief to the possibility that some of the objects are controlled either manually, automatically or remotely. ® The apparent cormon description of the objects is as follows:- (1) Metallic or light reflecting surface. U-39552 SECRET

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SECRET Basic Itr fr CG, AMC, WF to CG, AAF, Wash. Do C. subj "AMC Opinion Con- cerning "Flying Dises". (2) Absence of trail, except in a few instances when the object apparently was operating under high perfor- mance conditions. (3) Circular or elliptical in shape, flat on bottom and domed on top• (4) Several reports of well kept formation flights varying from three to nine objects. (5) Normally no associated sound, except in three instances a substantial rumbling roar was noted. (6) Level flight speeds normally above 300 knots are esti- mated. It is possible within the present U. S. knowledge - pro- vided extensive detailed development is undertaken - to construct a piloted aircraft which has the general description of the object in sub- paragraph (e) above which would be capable of an approximate range of 7000 miles at subsonic speeds. Any developments in this country along the lines indicated would be extremely expensive, time consuming and at the considerable ex- pense of current projects and therefore, if directed, should be set up in- dependently of existing projects. h. Due consideration must be given the following:- (1) The possibility that these objects are of domestic origin - the product of some high security project not known to AC/AS-2 or this Command. (2) The lack of physical evidence in the shape of crash recovered exhibits which would undeniably prove the existence of these objects. (3) The possibility that some foreign nation has a form of propulsion possibly nuclear, which is outside of our domestic knowledge. 3. It is recommended thats~- Headquarters, Army Air Forces issue a directive assigning a priority, security classification and Code Name for a detailed study of this matter to include the preparation of complete sets of all available and pertinent data nich will then be made available to the Arny, Navy, Atomic Energy Conmission, JRDB, the Air Force Scientific Advisory Group, NACA, and the RAND and NEPA projects for comments and recommendations, with a preliminary report to be forwarded within 15 days of receipt of the data and a detailed report thereafter every 30 days as the investi- SECRET U-39552

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SECRET Basic Itr fr CG, AMC, WF to CG, AAF, Wash. DoC• subj "AMC Opinion Con- cerning "Flying Discs" gation develops. A complete interchange of data should be effected. 4. Awaiting a specific directive AMC will continue the investi- gation within its current resources in order to more closely define the nature of the phenomenon. Detailed Essential Elements of Information will be formulated immediately for transmittal thru channels. Warring N. F. WINING Lieutenant General, U.S.A. Commanding • SECRET - -3- U-39552

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1. EGRET TSDIN/HMM/1 g/6-4100 23 September 1947 TSDIN SUBJECT: AMC Opinion Concerning "Flying Discs" TO: Commanding General Army Air Forces Washington 25, D. C. ATTENTION: Brig. General George Schulgen AC/AS-2 1. As requested by AC/AS-? there is presented below the considered opinion of this Command concerning the so-called "Flying Discs". This ing Division T-3. This opinion was arrived at in a conference between personnel from the Air Institute of Technology, Intelligence T-2, Office, Chief of Engineering Division, and the Aircraft, Power Plant and Propeller Laboratories of Engineering Division T-3• 2, It is the opinion that: a. The phenomenon reported is something real and not visionary or fictitious. There are objects probably approximating the shape of a disc, of such appreciable size as to appear to be as large as man-made aircraft. There is a possibility that some of the incidents may be caused by natural phenomena, such as meteors. d. The reported operating characteristics such as extreme rates of climb, maneuverability (particularly in roll), and action which must be considered evasive when sighted or contacted by friendly air- craft and radar, lend belief to the possibility that some of the objects are controlled either manually, automatically or remotely. e. The apparent common description of the objects is as follows: (1) Metallic or light reflecting surface. 1 SECRET Opy U-39552

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SECRET Basic Ler Pr CO, AMG, WY to CO,-AAP, Wash. U.C. subj "Aid Opinion Con- corning "Flying Discs". (2) Absence of truil, except in a few instances when the object apparently was operating under high perfor- mance conditions. (3) Circular or elliptical in shape, flat on bottom and domed on top. (4) Several reports of well kept formation flights varying from three to nine objects. (5) Normally no associated sound, except in three instances a substantial runbling roar was noted. (6) Lovel flight speeds normally above 300 knota are esti- mated. f. It ia possible within the present U. S. knowledge -- pro- vided extensive detailed development in undertaken - to construct a piloted aircraft which has the general description of the object in sub- paragraph (e) above which would be capable of an approximate range of &. Any developments in this country alone the lines indicated would be extrenoly expensive, time consuming and at the considerable ex- ponse of current projects and therefore, if directed, should be set up in- dependently of exiating projects. h. Lue consideration must be given the following:- (1) The possibility that these objecte are of domestic origin - the product of some high security project not known to AC/AS-2 or thin bormand. (2) The lack of physionl avidence in the shape of crash recovered exhibits which would undeniably prove the exiutance of these objects. (3) The possibility that nome foreign nation has a form of propulsion possibly nuclear, which is outaide of our domestic knowledge. 3. It le recomended that: - Army Air Forcen issue a directive assining a priority, thia matter to includo the preparation of conplete sets of all available and pertinent data which will then be made avaslable to the Army, Navy, with a proliminary report to be forwarded within 15 days of receipt of the date and a detailed report thereufter every 30 days as the Investi- g9E1 ECRET 0-39552

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Basic Ltr fr CG, AMC, WF to OG, AAF, Wash. D.G. Subj "AMC Opinion Con- cerning "Flying Discs" gation develope. A complete interchange of data should be effected. Awaiting a specific directive AMc will continue the investi- gation within its current resources in order to more closely define the nature of the pehnomenon. Detailed Essential Elements of Information will be formulated immediately for transmittal thru channels. N. F. TWINING Lieutenant General, U.S.*• Commanding This lette was condintre by: cal. Moose - ch. Aircraps Lal Mw. 2A Dicky - Ch Propelln Le Yen D.2. Pritt - Zuep 20 1. Minty - ch Dormed Plant Lal Ser Bealmall - T-3 SECRET CO P 0-39552

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TSN AD -2 B SECRET TSNAD-2B/ACL: eec 24 September 1947 SUBJECT: "Flying Disch TO: Commanding General Army Air Forces Washington 25, D. C. ATTN: AC/AS-2 Major General George McDom Id In compliance with General McDonald's telephone conversa- tion, this date, to Colonel H. M. McCoy, T-2, Hq. AMC, attached herewith is a copy of a drawing entitled, "Loedding Flying Dise", Because of patent rights involved, it is reques- ted that a record be kept of all persons reviewing this drawing by witnessing with signatures and dates directly on the drawing. 2. This drawing should be returned to this office when it has served its purpose so that it can be turned over to the Patent Office Hq. AMC for official record. Airplanes : muc Inclosed herewith is also a report prepared by the Royal Aircraft Bstablishment, lechnical Note, ABRO -705, which describes the Horten tailless aircraft. The follaving references are invited which is considered significant in relating the Horten brothers per- spective thinking and accomplishments toward the alleged "Flying Saucer" case: a. Page 5, Paragraph 4 and 6. b. Page 6, Paragraph 1 and 7. c. Page 26, Paragraph 3 and 10. d. Page 27, Paragraph 12. e. Page 28, Paragraphs 1 through 5. f. Page 54, Photograph of Horten "Parabola". SECRET COPY U-39942

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SEGRET Basic ltr, dtd 24 Sep 47, to CG, Hq AAF, Wash, subj: "Flying Disc" 5, Page 69, The Horten VIII. h. Pages 71 and 72, Photographs of the Horten IX Versions. 1. Page 74, Drawing of the "Parabolaf. This document should also be returned when it has served its intended purpose. x 4521 duane - Russa A recent report from the U. S. Military attache, Moscow, USSR, dated 9 June 1947, indicates that 1800 aircraft, directly or indirectly based on the Horten VIII design (six engine pusher, having a wing spread of 131 feet and a gross weight of approximately thirty-three thousand pounds) are being built for bomber squadron use. The Russian version, however, is jet propelled, reference report whose identification No. is V-32291-8. x0 95 The T-2 report "German Flying lings Designed by Horten Brothers", No. F-SU-1110-ld, also inclosed herewith, may be stained by your office if desired. FOR THE COMMANDING GENERAL: H. M. NcCOY Colonel, air Corps Deputy Commanding General Ihtelligence (T-2) 3 Incls: 1. Drawing 2. RAE Tech Note, AERO 1703 3. T-2 Rpt, No. F-SU-1110-ND. З вавин та я with lengine atter 1002 47 Mander SECRET COPY U-39942

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ORM NO. MR-1 (2) DATE: 30 Oct 4,7 INDEX: 652. 0009 Flying Saucer - Phenmena TO: CSGID, Plans ayd Collection Bra ch FROM: Chief, Air Intelligence Roquirements Division, AC/S-2 SUMMARY: Intelligence Requirements on Flying Saucer Type Aircraft D/E FILED: 350.09 Intelligence INDEXER: C REMARKS: Re: German scientrato HEADQUARTERS ARMY AIR FORCES CORRESPONDENCE REFERENCE FORM

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RESTRIGTED B/1, fm AMC, Subjs "Plying Dises", atd 13 Cot 47 Wrtn 22 Oct 1947 Lt Col Garrett/a1/4544 AFBIR-CO-5 AFBIR-C0-5 lst Ind 88 OCT 1947 Dept. of the A1r Forco, Hg., USAF, Washington 25, D. C. Tos Comnanding General, Air Nateriel Command, Wright Pield, Onio (Attention: T-2) A representative of this headquarters han contaeted Lt. Colonel Herbert C. Coe concerning Mire. Merchent'e theory on the flying dises, as expressed to General Brentnall. 2. It is recommended that no action be taken to interrogate Mrs. Merchant and that this case be closed. BY ORDER OF THE SECRETARY OF THE AIR PORCE: Inels - n/e DOUGLASS W. EISEMAN It. Colonel, Air Corps USAF Executive Nir Intel, Requirements Division Office of Ass't Chiet of Air Staff-2 HO TAP 8 8 0Cт 1947 GAG - MAIL, BIANCI ael P 94846 GON HUCKLIAL HESTRICTEU OFFICE SYMBOL 'AFOIR- CO" AROIK 3 SIGNATURE OF RESPONSIBLE OFFICER INTERNAI OFFICE Col dal 3p Читал 1800. 1. Sehu COORDINATION Brig. Gen•• USAF 5 6 16- 29212-1 GOVEENMENT PRINTING OfFICE

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COME FiAt Headquarters AIR MATERIBE CORIAND TSNAD-2B TS NAD-2B/ACL/ame Wright Pield, Dayton, Ohio 13 Oct 1947 SUBJECT: "Flying Dises" TO: Chief of Staff United States Air Force washington 25, D. C. ATTN: AC/ AS-2 Lt Col George Garrett Attached copies of communications are self-explanatory and indicate action taken to obtain additional information regerding subject. Assistance shown from Lt Col Herbert C. Gee was with reference to the social standing and character of Mrs. Merchant to determine justification for further investigation of her theories. 2. In view of Lt Col Gee's transfer to Washington, D. C., it is suggested that a representative from Headquarters, AC/AS-2 con- tact and interview him. General Brentnall stated that Mrs. Merchant was extremely talkative and seemed quite intent on promoting a personal enterprise instead of cooperating to help solve an intelligence problem. 4. Conments and suggestions, therefore, regarding further action to interrogate Mrs. Merchant would be appreciated in order to close this case as soon as possible. FOR THE COMMANDING GENERAL: 2 Incls 1. Cy AMC, T-2 Ltr, 9/29/47, "Flying Dises" 2. Cy lst Ind, 10/2/47, fr Hq. Kirtland Field, Albuquerque, New Mexico /s/ w. R. Clingeman, Col., A. C. for H. M. McDOY Colonel, Air Corps Deputy Commanding General Intelligence (T-2) C DONFIDENTIAL

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-TAL 29 September 1947 13 Oct 1947 SUBJECT: "Flying Dises" 10: Commanding Officer Operating Location No. 16 of 731st AÁFBU (101st AACS Sq) Kirtland Field Albuquergue, New Mexico ATTN: Col. Howard G. Bunker General Brentnall, during a recent visit at Las Vegas, was contacted by a Mrs. Madeline Gwynne Nerchent, Sante Fe, Hew Mexico, who described what may be termed a novel theory concorning "Flying Dises" 2. According to her thoery, "Flying Dises" are being fired from a locality in Central Mexico from a laboratory which is being operated by the Russians. She claims they are being aimed at the Thited States for the purpose of sighting in on important atomic energy and aircraft installations. 3. General Brentnall states that he does not have any further interest in an interrogation of Mrs. Merchant since it is not an engineering matter. However, he recommends that if Hq, Air Materiel Command, T-2, wishes to sponsor an interrogation of this neture that Col. Howard Bunker should be contacted to determine the name and address of the colonel at Las Vegas who has knowledge of this case. In view of General Brennall's suggestion, no direct contact will be made with Mrs. Merchent. 4. It is reguested, therefore, that the name and address of the above mentioned colonel be made available to this office as soon as possible so that further action, as deemed advisable, can be taken. FOR THE COMMANDING GENERAL: /s/ M. E. Goll H. M. McCOY Colonel, Air Corps Deputy Commanding General Intelligence (T-2) C P Y

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HONES B/1 Cr Hqs, AMC, Wright Field, Dayton, Ohio, Pile ISNAD-2B, 29 Sep 47, Subj: "Flying Disas" lst Ind HGB ams HEADQUARTERS, Kirtland Field, Albuquerque, New Mexico, 2 October 1947 Commanding General, Air Materiel Conmand, Wright Piold, Ohio ATTENTION: P-2 The officer referred to in Par. 3 is Lt. Col. Herbort C. Gee, 0-19717, who was formerly Commanding Officer at Los Alamos rather than Las Vegas, as stated. Lt. Col. Gee is now stationed in the offico, Chief of Engineers, Civil Works Division, Washington, D. C. There is no replacement for Lt. Col. Gee at Los Alamos and no infornation is available to indicate that any individual in this vicinity has more information concerning Mrs. Merchant's theory than Brig. Gen. Brentnall of AMC who personally conducted an interview with her. HONARD G. BUNKER Colonel, AC HAL

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DATETO FROMB,3 906.47 АМО- wald, Ohio. TYPE: Ltr. SMRY: "Flying Discs" W/ 2 Incls. TO: BIR 1st Que чите TO: DATE: 150ctL7 DATE:, PAO DATE: REPLIED OR INDORSED TO FILED (PLACE): SUSPENSE DATE: NO.: 234015 FILE DESIGNATION AND DATE: P 94846 TO: DATE: TO: DATE: OTHER ACTION: HQ AAF

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SEGRET AFBIR-CO/Lt Col Gerrett/df/4544 6 Oct 46 10/8/77 Basic: Itr fr Hq, AMO, Wright 71d, Dayton, 0. 24 Sept 47, Subj: "Flying Saucers" 2a8: Cyn of Inolsures in A-2 Iles P 94380 45 KAP ace 8 - ПС 1947 1, 9 Зумід омлеко 3 Inales OFFICE SYMBOL GRADE AND SURNAME OF COORDINATING OFFICERS AFBIR-СО-Б Int Ind Department of the Air Poree, Ha, USAY, Washlaston 86, D. G. 8 OCT 1947 80t ATTN: nding General, Air Vateriel Comend, Mright Meld, Payton, Ohio ISNAD- 2B Attached hereto la information requested in basie letter. BY ORDER OP PUR SION MARY OF REN AIR TOROBE DOUGLASS W. EISENA SEGRET it. Colonel, Air Corps US/F Executive, Jir Intel, Requirements Divisio 604-47-1 Men Momo for Chie Me Intel DIV, L061 Taylor 2 Oat Summary of Info on "Unidentified Mying ObJecte» It Col 10-29242-2 U.S. GOVERNMENT Reseman Geo. F. Schulgen

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SEGRET P Y HEADQUARTERS AIR MATERIM, COMNAND TSNAD- 2B/ACI./ame liright Fid, Dayton, 0. 24 Sept 47 TSNAD-2B "Flying Saucers" Commanding General, Army Air Force, Washingten 25, 0.%. ATTN: AC/AS-2, It Col Garrett It is requested that this office be furnished all x 000. 9. харан infornation concerning an alleged "Flying Saucer" flight sighting made by a radar station in Japan. This incident was mentioned by Dr. Charles Carroll during a conference in Brig Gen Schulgen's ) office attended by Mr. A.C. Loedding, 7-2 representative, on 5 Septenber 1947. TOR PEE COMMANDING GEN RAL: /s/ M.2.Go11 /+/ H.M. NeCOY Colonel, Air corpe Deputy Commanding General Intelligence T-2

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AFBIR-CU/LtCol.Garrett/rm/45L; 8 Sept 47 LEBIR-CO 11 SEP 1841 SUBJECT: Reported Sightings of Flying Dises, TO Commending Goneral Air Materiel Conmand Wright Field, Dayton, Ohio Abtention: T-2. I. As arranged verbally with Mr. Loedding, inclosed sa the complote file maintained by thie Office on reported sightings of Fying Discs. This Tile is forwarded so that photoatate may be made in order to provide your Conmand with a duplicate set of these sightings. 3. When photostating this material for your purpose, it will be appreciated if one extra set is made for this Offico and returned at the same time the originals are returned. 4. This flo, and the duplicates, should be returned as soon as posablo to this Headquarters, Attention: AC/AS-2, Ar Intelligence Roquiponenta Division, Collection Branch. BX COMMAND OF GENERAL SPAATZE Incel a/s in par. 1. P 93805 4O KAP 1 5 SEP 1947 SUCCI ENUNCIA DOUGLASS VI. RISEMAN It. Colonel, Air Corps Executive, Air Intel, Requirements Division 0ffice of Ass't Chief of Air Staff-2 OFFICE SYMBOL GRADE AND SURNAME OF COORDINATING OFFICERS 'AFBIR-CI Col. Tayken 3rd arrett 2. AFBIN 3. метал Gao. F. Schulgen Bris. Genvy USA 5. aud 16-20242-2 U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE

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AF. H0-33 (20 MAY 44) RESTRICTED HEADQUARTERS ARMY AIR FORCES ROUTING AND RECORD SHEET TALLY NO. FILE NO. SUBJECT: Flying Saucer Phenomena TO: Deputy Chief of Air Staff for Research & Development DATE 22 August 1947 COMMENT No. - 1 It Col Garrett/nc/4544 FROM: AC/AS-2, Air Intelligence Requirements Division Collection Branch 1. From a detailed study of certain reported observations on the flying saucers, selected for their veracity and reliability, it is apparent that several aspects of their appearance have a common pattern. 2. Before pursuing its investigation of these objects any further, this Office requests assurance that no research project of the Army Air Forces, at present being t-flown, has the following characteristics and that it may therefore be assumed e recent flying saucer "mystery" is not of United States origin: a. Surface is metallic - indicating a metallic skin, at least. b. When a trail is observed, it is a lightly colored blue-brown haze, similar to a rocket engine's exhaust. Contrary to a rocket of the solid type, one observation indicates that the fuel may be throttled, which would indicate a liquid rocket engine. As to shape, all observations state that the object is circular, or at least elliptical, flat on the bottom and slightly domed on the top. d. Size estimates place it somewhere near the size of a C-54 or Constellation as they would appear while flying at 10,000' e. Some reports describe two tabs located at the rear and symmetrical about axis of flight motion. good formation f. Flights have been reported containing from three to nine objects, flying good formation on each other, with speeds always above 300 knots. g. The discs oscillate laterally while flying along, which could be snaking. )Gbatta la3: ROBERT TAYLOR 3RD Colonel, Air Corps Chief, Collection Branch Air Intelligence Requirements Division AC/AS-2 RESTRICTED PAGE (REV 20 MAY 44)

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FORM NO. MR-1 (4) DATE: 5 Aug 47 INDEX: 000.9 Phenomena TO: FROM: SUMMARY: Chief, Intelligence Group, Intelligence Division, War Dept Gen Staff Executive, Air Intel, Requirements Division, AC/AS-2 Request for F. B. I. Investigation on Background of Certein Witnesses to "Flying Discs". Memo FILED: INDEXER: REMARKS: 333.5 Investigation ejb HEADQUARTERS ARMY AIR FORCES CORRESPONDENCE REFERENCE FORM

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RESTRICTED HEADQUARTERS ARMY AIR FORCES ROUTING AND RECORD SHEET TALLY NO FILE NO. SUBJECT: TO : FROM: Flying Saucer Phenomena Air Intelligence Requirements Division, AC/AS-2 Attn: Collection Branch Deputy Chief of Air Staff for Research & Development DATE AUG 2 9 1947 COMMENT No. 2 Nr Rod Ces The Army Air Forces has no research project with the characteristics described in Comment No. 1. SURRENCE: AFDRE-2 LT GeOg Munso~ pas кони LeMA Major General, U. S. Army Deputy Chief of Air Staff for Research and Development AF DRE -4. Collinhulake REST RITED 3-1109, AF (REV 20 MAY 44)